Vanity toad pet not bound to account on pickup as advertised

rockster · December 2022

Toad vanity pet from Northdark campaign. Tooltip when in box and not yet chosen said it was bind to account on pickup, which means it should be claimable on all characters like all the other previous vanity pets like this are, but when I opened the box on one character it doesn't show up anywhere else and is only on that character. It should be on them all from the rewards claim agent. Please fix. Ty.

plasticbat · December 2022

rockster#6227 said:
Toad vanity pet from Northdark campaign. Tooltip when in box and not yet chosen said it was bind to account on pickup, which means it should be claimable on all characters like all the other previous vanity pets like this are, but when I opened the box on one character it doesn't show up anywhere else and is only on that character. It should be on them all from the rewards claim agent. Please fix. Ty.

Bound to account only means one item which is bound to account and you can move that one item to another character if you wish. It is not account wide.
If it is account wide, it would be "{name of the item} - Account" in the list.

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rockster · December 2022

no, i disagree. that's mounts and companions. if it's bound to account it is usable on all characters, has always been that way you should know that. if it's bound to one character only it will say bound to character on pickup. it dint say that it said binds to account on pickup. specifically.

plasticbat · December 2022

rockster#6227 said:
no, i disagree. that's mounts and companions. if it's bound to account it is usable on all characters, has always been that way you should know that. if it's bound to one character only it will say bound to character on pickup. it dint say that it said binds to account on pickup. specifically.

No, it is not that way. Are you saying what you get is not transferable to another character?

Companion (there is "- Account")

Mount (there is "- Account")

rockster · December 2022

Here's a clear example: Echoes of Prophecy campaign, one of the prizes in it was the vanity Neverwintian Hawk. It is now claimable on all characters from the rewards claim agent same as this should be. The tooltip says exactly the same as the toad's tooltip did and it should do the same thing. Look at the image, the tooltip is exactly the same on this as it was on the toad. Binds to account on pickup. If the other one binds to account and is claimable by all characters, this should be as well, it's another vanity pet from another campaign FFS.

rockster · December 2022

I'm going by the previous vanity pet which was listed the same way on the tooltip and is now claimable on all characters on the account. I can see it in there now, do you want a screenshot of that as well?

plasticbat · December 2022

rockster#6227 said:
Here's a clear example: Echoes of Prophecy campaign, one of the prizes in it was the vanity Neverwintian Hawk. It is now claimable on all characters from the rewards claim agent same as this should be. The tooltip says exactly the same as the toad's tooltip did and it should do the same thing. Look at the image, the tooltip is exactly the same on this as it was on the toad. Binds to account on pickup. If the other one binds to account and is claimable by all characters, this should be as well, it's another vanity pet from another campaign FFS.

That has nothing to do with "Bound to Account". It is just it was not named to have "- Account".
"Bound to Account" or not has nothing to do with "Account wide".

rockster · December 2022

plasticbat · December 2022

As I said, "Bound to Pickup (Account)" does not mean it is "Account wide".
They are 2 difference attributes.
Vanity Neverwinter Hawk is "Account wide" and also "Bound on Pickup (Account)".
But, "Bound on Pickup (Account)" does not mean it is "Account wide".
"Bound on Pickup (Account)" only tells you when you pick that up, it will be "Bound on Account". Nothing more.

rockster · December 2022

rockster · December 2022

Same binding instruction. Should be claimable at agent like the others which are and come from campaigns. What's the difference?

rockster · December 2022

Broken please fix. Ty.

plasticbat · December 2022

rockster#6227 said:
Same binding instruction. Should be claimable at agent like the others which are and come from campaigns. What's the difference?

There are few difference:
1. One is vanity pet and the other one is vanity pet pack.
2. "Binds on Pickup (Account)" does not mean it is "Account wide" or not "Account wide".

This is not account wide.

This is account wide.

Both are "Binds on Pickup (Account)".

ksell · December 2022

it might not meant acc wide but as previous pets were workin like that, this pack should too; vanities have too much randomnes already, no need for extra struggle to get more on alts

plasticbat · December 2022

ksell said:
it might not meant acc wide but as previous pets were workin like that, this pack should too; vanities have too much randomnes already, no need for extra struggle to get more on alts

If the argument is it should be account wide, I would agree.
What I don't agree is "because it is 'Binds on Pickup (Account)', it should be account wide".
i.e. I don't agree it is a bug to be fixed. I agree it is a decision to be changed.

rockster · December 2022

The only difference is that it's in a pack first. But the pet you end-up with is the same deal from the same source and should function in the same way. It's probably just a case that they were too lazy to code for the different pets in the one pack to show up in the claim agent and one pet from a campaign is easier to do than multiples. But their laziness is not our problem.

The tooltip binding info on the previous ones is exactly the same as the tooltip binding info on this one and this one should be doing the same thing as the others do. It's the same item from the same exact type of source. Players should not get stiffed. This is a major prize from a major campaign and you could argue that a pet choice box was even more top-tier than just a single one given arbitrarily. If previous ones (and not that long ago at that) are reclaimable for all characters, this one should be too. The pet needs to be reclaimable and they need to put it in the agent's list.

mintmark · December 2022

I think the hawk vanity pet gets its account wideness from being a reward in the battle pass campaign. In the blog https://arcgames.com/en/games/neverwinter/news/detail/11498753-echoes-of-prophecy! it says "Progress and most rewards are account wide.", although it doesn't mention that reward explicitly.

ksell · December 2022

all three cases cames from battle passes, and hawk was not actually in premium section

masteroga · December 2022

Regardless of tooltips, these vanity pets SHOULD be account wide unlocks. It's a simple vanity pet, and on the premium track.

trinity706 · January 2023

As previously stated, "binds on pickup (account)" is simply a bind status, it does not automatically mean reclaimable. If it doesn't show "ITEM NAME - Account", don't expect it to be reclaimable.

rockster · January 2023

What about the hawk? Doesn't say -account on it.

trinity706 · January 2023

What about it?

Echoes of Prophecy: "Note 2: Reclaimable rewards (emotes, artifacts, mounts, companions, hawk) are reclaimed at the RCA".

It was clearly stated that the hawk is reclaimable...

rockster · January 2023

You're being evasive. You said before they always say 'name - account', That one does not. Yet you bring up something else and don't address it. That's being evasive. I just gave you an example of something which is account wide and does not say name - account.

trinity706#8838 said:
As previously stated, "binds on pickup (account)" is simply a bind status, it does not automatically mean reclaimable. If it doesn't show "ITEM NAME - Account", don't expect it to be reclaimable.

percemer · January 2023

Greetings,

I will escalate this potential issue and check if it's intended or not.

Thanks for your patience!

Regards,

trinity706 · January 2023

rockster#6227 said:
You're being evasive. You said before they always say 'name - account', That one does not. Yet you bring up something else and don't address it. That's being evasive. I just gave you an example of something which is account wide and does not say name - account.

You brought up the hawk, so it was referenced why it is reclaimable even though it does not have the "- Account" tag... Just because the hawk is reclaimable without the tag does not mean everything else is as well...

trinity706#8838 said:
As previously stated, "binds on pickup (account)" is simply a bind status, it does not automatically mean reclaimable. If it doesn't show "ITEM NAME - Account", don't expect it to be reclaimable.

No where in that statement was it stated "always"...

Simply stated that if an item doesn't have the "- Account" tag not to expect it to be account wide as you and others are doing thinking/arguing that "binds on pickup (account)" means the same thing, which it does not. In other words "- Account" means reclaimable hands down, a player can expect any item with that tag to be reclaimable, although, there can be an item(s) that are reclaimable even if they do not have the tag. The hawk (combat item) for example is reclaimable even though it does not have the tag, though it was specifically stated in a note that it would be reclaimable, again, just because the hawk is reclaimable without the tag does not mean everything else is as well.

If "binds on pickup (account)" meant what you and others think it does then choice packs (enchantment, insignia, etc.), keys, astral lock boxes, etc., all of which also show "binds on pickup (account)" would be claimable on all characters as well which is clearly not the case. As an argument, "binds on pickup (account)" can't mean account wide for some things yet not all...

rockster · January 2023

You're looking for an argument, I'm bored with you now. Your trolling is not very advanced either, it's kind of obvious what you're doing. Have a nice life. Bye.

trinity706 · January 2023

rockster#6227 said:
Toad vanity pet from Northdark campaign. Tooltip when in box and not yet chosen said it was bind to account on pickup, which means it should be claimable on all characters

"binds on pickup (account)" has been shown in multiple examples to not mean account wide/reclaimable as you and some others think it does, the premise of that argument is invalid and showing that it is invalid is not trolling.

The title of this thread: "Vanity toad pet not bound to account on pickup as advertised" is invalid as well. The item is in fact bound to account on pickup as described/advertised (just like most if not all of the battle pass rewards), it just isn't account wide as it is assumed it should be.

There's no "- Account" tag on the toad vanity pet and it is not explicitly stated in a note on the Northdark Divided battle pass news page to be reclaimable as the hawk was stated to be reclaimable in a note on the Echoes of Prophecy news page, see the difference? Also the Mini Panda vanity pet does not have the "- Account" tag in the Northdark Divided battle pass as it originally did in the Rothe Valley battle pass so it is more than likely not reclaimable either.

percemer · January 2023

Hello @rockster#6227,

I'm coming back to you after discussing with the development team internally. They confirmed that items from the Northdark Choice Pack and Northdark Vanity Choice Pack are bound to account, but not the Account Wide version of the items that you can reclaim from the RCA. We apologize for any confusion.

Regards,

Vanity toad pet not bound to account on pickup as advertised

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