Official: Dragonslayer (M23) Dungeon Chest Rewards and Reroll Changes

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  lassor

  lassor#2420

  Member, Cryptic Developer Cryptic Developer › Posts: 76 Cryptic Developer

  May 2022 edited May 2022

  Please be aware that the event to activate these reward changes was not running at the start of Preview. If you saw nearly empty chests, this was not intended! The event is now on and the proper rewards should be appearing.

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  olocancom

  olocancom#0595

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  May 2022 edited May 2022

  It's great that rewards are FINALLY being addressed! Thank you!
  
  Something not directly mentioned here is the rings from chests in Vault of Stars. My main is a wizard, and in all the time of the dungeon being out and hundreds of completions I have never had the legendary +ranged damage ring drop.
  
  [Suggestion] Please, add a vendor so we can trade in campaign currency and just buy the ring we want. Or maybe let us trade in 20 of those blue rings that we can't sell or turn into RP (a bug? that should be addressed). Or like ToMM where you get a scroll for every completion that you then can trade for weapons.
  
  There's a lot of rings which I assume count as a premium reward. Even if you increase the drop rate of premium rewards it doesn't address the fact that getting the ring you want is all luck. I'm not exaggerating when I say I've completed it hundreds, perhaps even thousands of times. I've worked hard to try and get one ring, and after so long it's demoralizing and demotivating that is still hasn't dropped and I have no other option but to keep running it and hoping that maybe I'll get it by the time a new set of rings has come out.
  
  The disappointment that comes with opening the end chests of the hardest dungeon and getting nothing of value time and time again is what leads me, and many others, to just say I don't want to play Neverwinter anymore. Removing blackened jaw gear is a good start, but there needs to be some sort of streak breaker or vendor so that busted wizards like myself aren't stuck using epic gear for two years because we just have bad luck.

  Post edited by olocancom#0595 on May 2022

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  lassor

  lassor#2420

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  May 2022

  olocancom#0595 said:

  
  There's a lot of rings which I assume count as a premium reward. Even if you increase the drop rate of premium rewards it doesn't address the fact that getting the ring you want is all luck. I'm not exaggerating when I say I've completed it hundreds, perhaps even thousands of times. I've worked hard to try and get one ring, and after so long it's demoralizing and demotivating that is still hasn't dropped and I have no other option but to keep running it and hoping that maybe I'll get it by the time a new set of rings has come out.
  

  Premium Loot are the extra goodies that are available from any queue and are composed mostly of items for general character progression. There are no pieces of equipment (things your character directly wears) in the Premium Loot. Here's the original post on them:
  
  https://www.arcgames.com/en/games/neverwinter/news/detail/11478743-dungeon-premium-drops
  
  As part of the changes here the rings will be dropping more frequently in VoS, however the rest of your suggestions would unfortunately fall outside of the scope of this feature.
  
  That being said, the hope is that the totality of changes here would result in group content feeling good for most players in general because there's a higher likelihood of getting something of value, even if it's not necessarily the thing you were specifically looking to acquire.

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  melvilleismybro

  melvilleismybro#1021

  Member Posts: 11 Arc User

  May 2022

  Hi Lassor!
  
  I have two questions.
  
  1. Were rank 6 enchanting stones on the chopping block, as they are no longer usable in-game?
  
  2. In the Driftwood Tavern stream before yours, lead product manager Misa Ganz mentioned the goal of the Draconic Battle pass in part being to address queue health. Regarding queue health and the reduction in available rerolls, was part of the thought process here to ultimately increase the number of times per day that players choose to queue for dungeons?
  
  Thanks! -Buck

  Member of the Barbarian Tank anti-extinction squad.

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  mehwar

  mehwar#3996

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  May 2022

  
  
  As part of the changes here the rings will be dropping more frequently in VoS, however the rest of your suggestions would unfortunately fall outside of the scope of this feature.
  
  That being said, the hope is that the totality of changes here would result in group content feeling good for most players in general because there's a higher likelihood of getting something of value, even if it's not necessarily the thing you were specifically looking to acquire.
  
  Are the regeants for Band of Air will also be affected on the rings dropping more frequently? Thanks
  
  

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  mynaam Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 937 Arc User

  May 2022

  On twitch we were told we are no longer getting 3 mods a year so between mods we can get CoL changes. it seems now that this mod is just QoL changes with no content might want to clarify that with the playerbase! If it releases like this and we only get QoL mod people might get frustrated if not warned

  There are more than BIS players in this game
  RIP Real Tiamat, RIP Real Demogorgon RIP real Temple of the spider. Why remove non bis content to give to bis players ????
  FORCING the majority of your player base to play 4 mod old dungeons and trial will have a bad result on player base
  Changes are getting so bad i would rather prefer no new changes (RIP ICE FISHING in winter fest)
  
  
  
  

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  lassor

  lassor#2420

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  May 2022

  melvilleismybro#1021 said:

  
  1. Were rank 6 enchanting stones on the chopping block, as they are no longer usable in-game?
  
  2. In the Driftwood Tavern stream before yours, lead product manager Misa Ganz mentioned the goal of the Draconic Battle pass in part being to address queue health. Regarding queue health and the reduction in available rerolls, was part of the thought process here to ultimately increase the number of times per day that players choose to queue for dungeons?
  

  Anything that is obsolete should no longer be appearing in any chests. If I missed something then let me know and I'll get it out of there.
  
  In regards to the reroll changes, there's no direct intent to have players run the queues more times a day but it's great if they feel like that's a useful or fun thing to do. The main drivers for the reroll changes were to make it so each individual roll for items would be more likely to have something of value, improve the value of reroll tokens through VIP, and reduce the gap between base drop rates and those from fully rerolling a chest.

  mehwar#3996 said:

  
  Are the regeants for Band of Air will also be affected on the rings dropping more frequently? Thanks
  

  No, those reagents are obtained from the minibosses so these chest changes will have no effect on those drops.

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  arazith07 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,719 Arc User

  May 2022

  mynaam said:

  On twitch we were told we are no longer getting 3 mods a year so between mods we can get CoL changes. it seems now that this mod is just QoL changes with no content might want to clarify that with the playerbase! If it releases like this and we only get QoL mod people might get frustrated if not warned

  Not sure where you heard that, last I heard was that we would be having 2-3 mods a year with more QoL changes in between. Noncontent? You know we are getting a lot of content via Dragon hunts right? Everyone from newly level 20 to veteran players will be able to participate and challenge themselves and have gear to grind right? As far as NW goes, this is something that brings players a lot of stuff to do, without even going into the reward reworks that makes all the other content more desirable to run for fun.

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  maxzius

  maxzius#3795

  Member Posts: 165 Arc User

  May 2022

  So by raising the rate of premium drops to almost double (current delver's level, yes?) and reducing the rerolls by 2 you've effectively given the players almost another 1% chance at a premium drop.
  
  Awesome
  
  /s

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