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Thaumaturge Spell For Mobs?

autumnwitchautumnwitch Member Posts: 1,141 Arc User
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I have two Wizards. One an Arcanist who I do just fine with. She is a DPS machine both in groups and solo.

Then I have a Thaumaturge who is ok but there just doesn't seem to be an encounters that are good for mobs. In places like Chult, Ravenloft and Undermountain there are so many mobs she really struggles when solo. My Arcanist has 2 good spells to keep mobs at bay but I'm really struggling. I don't want to have to change her but I need something to keep the mobs off of her when she is so outnumbered.

Ang suggestions?
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  • solanaceae#5995 solanaceae
    solanaceae#5995
         Member Posts: 29 Arc User
    First, this isn't a Thaum-specific thing, but Chult and Ravenloft are still bugged in that they have abnormally high Defense, even though Thursday's patch claims to have addressed this. You still need 82k and 97k Armor Pen for those zones respectively to do full damage.

    My AoE Thaum always runs with Conduit of Ice and Icy Terrain as regular encounters. Then either I put Fireball on tab and some single-target thing (Repel, Entangling, Icy Rays, Chill Strike) on regular, or put Chill Strike on tab and Fireball on regular.

    With Critical Conflag, Thaum does like 3-6x damage on crits depending on the power, so getting a noncrit on Icy/Conduit really sucks.
  • autumnwitchautumnwitch Member Posts: 1,141 Arc User
    solanaceae#5995 said:

    First, this isn't a Thaum-specific thing, but Chult and Ravenloft are still bugged in that they have abnormally high Defense, even though Thursday's patch claims to have addressed this. You still need 82k and 97k Armor Pen for those zones respectively to do full damage.

    My AoE Thrum always runs with Conduit of Ice and Icy Terrain as regular encounters. Then either I put Fireball on tab and some single-target thing (Repel, Entangling, Icy Rays, Chill Strike) on regular, or put Chill Strike on tab and Fireball on regular.

    With Critical Conflag, Thaum does like 3-6x damage on crits depending on the power, so getting a noncrit on Icy/Conduit really sucks.

    Like I said for my Arcanist there is a build I have that actually is way stronger for mobs and works very well. I never feel pressured at all. In fact, I try to wait until there are more critters around before I attack even in Chult and Ravenloft. Keep in mind there the mobs are so aggro hyper they are extremely predictable which makes it even easier. The problem with Thaum is that she can't wipe out huge groups in one swipe with encounters which means she is spending more time dodging and using at wills which as about as fun as watching paint dry .
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  • solanaceae#5995 solanaceae
    solanaceae#5995
         Member Posts: 29 Arc User
    Can you screenshot your Thaum and Arcanist builds and post them here?
  • vorphiedvorphied Member Posts: 1,870 Arc User
    edited June 2019
    > @solanaceae#5995 said:
    > Can you screenshot your Thaum and Arcanist builds and post them here?

    Yeah, we would need to see specifics. Thaum in particular shouldn’t be having issues if doing rating-appropriate content with a good build, so something could probably use a tweak.

    Also, for a trash-killing loadout I use Chill Strike in Tab and Fireball in a regular encounter slot. With encounter CDs much higher in M16, running a single-target power for trash feels wasteful, especially when running Thaum and using Ray of Frost + procs to focus down stragglers.
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  • namelesshero347namelesshero347 Member Posts: 2,109 Arc User
    edited June 2019
    Repel in tab is a cone AOE. You have to position yourself so the mobs are directly in front of you. Might be a bit annoying to others when used in a group. I would use only to finish off the mobs.
  • kingkevin#3240 kingkevin
    kingkevin#3240
         Member Posts: 69 Arc User
    Making my fourth character and was thinking between a wizard or warlock, which one should I pick for group content.
    Which one is more accepted in groups?
  • mebengalsfan#9264 mebengalsfan
    mebengalsfan#9264
         Member Posts: 3,169 Arc User
    My loadout is this..

    Tab - Chill Strike (makes it an AoE)
    Icy Terrain
    Fireball
    Conduct of Ice

    If I have my daily I use Immolation to pull the group together than Conduct of Ice, Chill Strike, jump in Icy Terrain and than Fireball if they aren't dead.

    I use Chilling Presence and Critical Conflag for my personals.

    I use Ice Knife and Immolation as my dailies.

    My primary at will is Chilling Cloud.

    I also went with very high control; around 50% or so and mobs freeze very easily for me.

    I find this loadout kills large groups of mobs very fast.

    The other loadout I use is Arcanist for bosses but I don't know all of that one details off hand

    As for Thaum I keep everything the same for my single target other than my at wills and encounters.

    My at will is Ray of Frost.

    Encounters: RoE on Tab, Fanning the Flame, Icy Ray, and Chill Strike

    I use Ice Knife as my daily.

    I personally prefer my Arcanist for single target; it melts bosses quickly. I went into LoMM and joined on the 2nd boss and ended up top DD do to the amount of damage I can do just on bosses.

    Overall the wizard is in a decent spot. I wish our encounters had 50% reduction in cool down but I also am willing to take 50% less damage if the devs do this.


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