You call this a game ?

detectivo · June 2019

Today I made new character. After playing some levels all I see is:

Story instance bosses die from 1 encounter.
Strong mobs die from 1 encounter.
Group of monsters die from 1 aoe encounter.
I don't lose hp.
I don't need gear, consumables, companion.
Daily can one shot a God.

If this is a game then I miss something.. what is the point ? Surely you must have some hidden goal because what I can see doesn't resemble a game.

kreatyve · June 2019

Get to 80 and then let us know if you feel the same?

bpstuart · June 2019

detectivo said:
Today I made new character. After playing some levels all I see is:

Story instance bosses die from 1 encounter.
Strong mobs die from 1 encounter.
Group of monsters die from 1 aoe encounter.
I don't lose hp.
I don't need gear, consumables, companion.
Daily can one shot a God.

If this is a game then I miss something.. what is the point ? Surely you must have some hidden goal because what I can see doesn't resemble a game.

See progression used to be smooth and intriguing till they reworked the whole system for Module 16. Now stuff that was balanced to feel right at low levels was not properly adjusted. It does get harder, almost unfairly hard at times later on. when you get into the higher levels 75-80 you wiill often feel a little weak, becuase that is were all the focus is.

i get the impression they want you to speed through all the older content so you can get to the later modules. The low level content is an after thought it feels to be sure.

Unknown · June 2019

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jules · June 2019

bpstuart said:

detectivo said:
Today I made new character. After playing some levels all I see is:

Story instance bosses die from 1 encounter.
Strong mobs die from 1 encounter.
Group of monsters die from 1 aoe encounter.
I don't lose hp.
I don't need gear, consumables, companion.
Daily can one shot a God.

If this is a game then I miss something.. what is the point ? Surely you must have some hidden goal because what I can see doesn't resemble a game.
See progression used to be smooth and intriguing till they reworked the whole system for Module 16. Now stuff that was balanced to feel right at low levels was not properly adjusted. It does get harder, almost unfairly hard at times later on. when you get into the higher levels 75-80 you wiill often feel a little weak, becuase that is were all the focus is.

i get the impression they want you to speed through all the older content so you can get to the later modules. The low level content is an after thought it feels to be sure.

Its very interesting how new players perceive the levelling vs. lvl 70(80) content including scaling/stats/dungeon issues.
I remember how long my first char took me to get to not only lvl 70 but also to get it "working fit". This seems to easy/short now, which leaves out some practise/exp with the game and the class and shoves us all together into the same content that turns out frustrating in that way.

jumpingmorks · June 2019

I pugged into nDemo last night and was the first time since mod 8 I had a fail.

The first stage, someone(s) were opening every portal.

Second stage, they seemed to think aiming Gorristro at the black portals was a 'good' idea'.

The thrid stage would have made Monty Python proud, almost everyone seemed to be following the 'Run Away' philosophy. I say almost everyone because at that point you had about 4 people sitting at the camp fire.

EDIT:

Ohh and you are so gonna love soloing Fane, good luck.

darthpotater · June 2019

bpstuart said:

See progression used to be smooth and intriguing till they reworked the whole system for Module 16. Now stuff that was balanced to feel right at low levels was not properly adjusted. It does get harder, almost unfairly hard at times later on. when you get into the higher levels 75-80 you wiill often feel a little weak, becuase that is were all the focus is.

i get the impression they want you to speed through all the older content so you can get to the later modules. The low level content is an after thought it feels to be sure.

One of the goals of M16 was atracting new players
Seems that new players love easy games, maybe they could rework leveling 1-70 to:

Cutscene
Push square
Cutscene
Push triangle
Custcene
Push A
Yayyy you are level 70!!! Want a mount? -> zen store.

cerberusforces · June 2019

When you see bugs and still new nerf ench, char etc. then you will know this game. If you start in this game, trust me, don't waste your time.

poisoncloud · June 2019

If you don't wanna feel too op while levelling, run levelling dungeons.

falsefable · June 2019

detectivo said:
Today I made new character. After playing some levels all I see is:

Story instance bosses die from 1 encounter.
Strong mobs die from 1 encounter.
Group of monsters die from 1 aoe encounter.
I don't lose hp.
I don't need gear, consumables, companion.
Daily can one shot a God.

If this is a game then I miss something.. what is the point ? Surely you must have some hidden goal because what I can see doesn't resemble a game.

I see the same with my characters under level 15. My level 30 Cleric, however, starts to see more challenging encounters, and I've been run off from some fights. So it seems like there's a difficulty scaling issue that goes away.

silverkelt · June 2019

Its just the overall game is in a sad state.. they really messed up most of the intrinsic things that made it fun. There wasnt much of a reason to do what they did in the end, but they did it, then gave us "compelling" reasons.. which were , well not very compelling.

Overall the game is at its worst point, far worse then mod 6 rework ever was.

rapidstar · June 2019

I agree with @detectivo. I started new character (DC) and its way to easy. It doesnt matter to me but it can be discouraging for new players and if the game doesnt get more players then its gonna die soon.

aodfireraven · June 2019

I'm curious how many of these older players that start new characters and say it's too easy, are running a new toon with no guild bonuses etc.
Personally not seeing any issues at lower levels but stronghold has gotten frustrating when doing an encounter and a trash mob gets involved. Even with my lvl 80's that rely on dodging,it's frustrating since they are on you almost instantly due to the movement nerf (punishing all players in an attempt to correct the bad behavior of some is a really stupid idea) and can cause you to run into other trash mobs.

pwimagicgame · June 2019

Ahhhh, but don't forget a load of adverts still trundle across the middle of your screen.... yup it's a game, cryptic style!

silverkelt · June 2019

its not really a complaint, but it doesnt feel like it used to. There are far more broken things in the game then leveling..

plasticbat · June 2019

pwimagicgame said:
Ahhhh, but don't forget a load of adverts still trundle across the middle of your screen.... yup it's a game, cryptic style!

You can move them away from the middle of your screen.

plasticbat · June 2019

aodfireraven said:
I'm curious how many of these older players that start new characters and say it's too easy, are running a new toon with no guild bonuses etc.
Personally not seeing any issues at lower levels but stronghold has gotten frustrating when doing an encounter and a trash mob gets involved. Even with my lvl 80's that rely on dodging,it's frustrating since they are on you almost instantly due to the movement nerf (punishing all players in an attempt to correct the bad behavior of some is a really stupid idea) and can cause you to run into other trash mobs.

New as less than level 30 is easy.
Level 80 character can be hard because of scaling.

bpstuart · June 2019

aodfireraven said:
I'm curious how many of these older players that start new characters and say it's too easy, are running a new toon with no guild bonuses etc.
Personally not seeing any issues at lower levels but stronghold has gotten frustrating when doing an encounter and a trash mob gets involved. Even with my lvl 80's that rely on dodging,it's frustrating since they are on you almost instantly due to the movement nerf (punishing all players in an attempt to correct the bad behavior of some is a really stupid idea) and can cause you to run into other trash mobs.

I am one of those older players that runs older content with new characters, no guild bonuses or trickery. The Difficulty is all over the place. Some things are laughably easy then suddenly you will fall to mundane enemies. The difficulty does not feel consistent through out. Some bosses get 2 shotted and some normal mobs spray you across the walls in a weird mess of difficulty slops that weren't there prior to Mod16. It is too easy till it suddenly gets harder than it should so i can see why people would say both, cause both are kinda true. Karsov had to be adjusted after Mod16 launch it isn't just Newbies not knowing how to play.

I really enjoyed low level content Pre mod16, you would get a power point each level up, you could choose a new power, you felt stronger, you made choices and continued. Now you only get powers at level milestones and every so often you can choose one feat after resigning yourself to a paragon path. It really aint what it used to be, and the elegent comfortable difficulty curve that i remember is now a mess of hills and valleys.

You call this a game ?

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