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Guild Hall Level Booster In Zen Market

angles610angles610 Member Posts: 2 Arc User
Offer guild hall level ups in the Zen Market. This would be a major financial benefit for you company and provide the temptation for the gamers to purchase more. Doing this would offer low level guilds so much and promote/increase sales and profits for you.

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  • omegarealities#7219 omegarealities Member Posts: 1,004 Arc User
    How would it work? There are many variables to leveling up a guild. A one size fits all would be all but impossible.
  • mahburgmahburg Member Posts: 598 Arc User
    They already do they are Stronghold packs
  • omegarealities#7219 omegarealities Member Posts: 1,004 Arc User
    mahburg said:

    They already do they are Stronghold packs

    Don't know if that is what the OP was talking about or if that were talking about a pack that would upgrade the guild a level. In the case of the former, it is just a matter of buying them and sticking them into the coffee.

    If they were talking about the later, I would be almost impossible (if not completely) to have such a thing. There are so many variables:
    1. Your individual Guild Level requires different quantities of structures to be at certain levels
    2. Your Alliance Level effects the building discount you will receive.
    3. Your Alliance Position (Helm, Gauntlet, Sword) effects the building discount you will receive.
    4. What you want to build (PvP vs PvE build) determines what structures you will want to build.
    5. What Boons you want determines what structures you want to build.
    I am sure I have forgotten some. The only possible way to do it would be to have some type of al a carte system in place where you order what you want and it gives you a total price. Which I don't even know how they would begin to implement.
  • nunya#5309 nunya Member Posts: 933 Arc User
    edited August 2018
    It could be done as simply as a "building upgrade completion" thing. Basically, you would pick a building to use it on and then it would either:
    1. fill up the coffer to the needed values of shards, campaign currencies, and so forth - OR -
    2. it would simply make the upgrade costs considered to be met and enable the upgrade.

    In both cases, my idea would remove from your coffer whatever resources it has for that upgrade. Either way, the upgrade for that building should simply start immediately. You shouldn't have any choice in the matter.

    For example, let's say you're trying to upgrade a building that requires 20k food, 20k wood, and 50k labor. You have 25k food, 15k wood, and zero labor and you use a "building upgrade completion" on that building. In the #1 scenario above, then your coffer would receive zero food (because you already have enough), 5k wood, and 50k labor. In the #2 scenario above, the upgrade would start and your coffer would still have 5k food (because the upgrade only requires 20k food), zero wood, and zero labor (because you had less of these things than required and so it takes what you have).

    The easiest way I can imagine them adding this kind of functionality would be to add a button to the interface that lets you purchase a "building upgrade completion" unlock from the store, which immediately starts the upgrade.

    Hopefully, I've described this pretty well.

    My opinion of all such things is this: I find it intriguing because my guild is level 8 and I would love to upgrade my buildings faster so we can get onto a higher level. The problem is cost: How much should such a thing in the Zen store cost? Should the cost vary according to how deficient you are on the resources needed to upgrade the building? Would it be worth purchasing at whatever price they chose to sell it? After all, at our current progress, I would need four "building upgrade completion" things to get my guild to level 9 right now: one each for the warehouse, lumberyard, marketplace, and guild hall.

    The other problem, from a player perspective, would be this: If I do all those upgrades with a hurry-up from the store, then my guild will have zero of all the following: heroic shards, adventurer shards, labor, gems, surplus equipment, treasures of tyranny, frozen treasures, fey trinkets, dark gifts, and influence - and we'll be low on gold and low-ish on AD (we have 6.3k of 11.1k atm). It would make level 10 look like a Herculean effort to get, and that's in spite of the fact that between mine and my wife's accounts we can pump out 30k labor, 300k surplus equipment, 100k gems, 1000 AD, and 4500 gold per week each. (Well, I could fill our coffer with gold in about 3 days right now, but you get the point.) That would be somewhat demoralizing, I would think, and it would lead to frustration from feeling like you "need" to continue to purchase the unlocks from the store to progress.
  • omegarealities#7219 omegarealities Member Posts: 1,004 Arc User
    It might be possible to do it as a single structure upgrade. But even then, it would take a complicated formula to compute what is needed. It would have to take into account of the discounts and then convert the cost of what is needed in Zen. That would require a cost per item for each resource.

    Trying to do that for the entire Guild would require a form of which structures to upgrade and then do the above calculations for each individual structure. The individual structures would then have to upgraded before the Guild Hall could be upgraded.
  • nunya#5309 nunya Member Posts: 933 Arc User
    Yeah, I can't see how they could sell a "guild hall upgrade" where it would automatically upgrade the structures you need. As you've pointed out, what happens when it's time to build a new structure to meet the requirements? How would it pick? I think it could only work as a single structure upgrade, where you'd have to go to the structure's plot and purchase/apply the upgrade from the store. I think if they did implement something like this, they should just calculate the costs of the upgrade against the base cost and ignore discounts. Treat it as the price of going faster. Personally, if I were going to buy such a thing, I wouldn't care about discounts at that point; they simply would not matter. Discounts only help me if I'm grinding to do the upgrade. If I'm buying from the store a thing that simply permits the upgrade and removes the grinding? I can't see anyone rightly caring about discounts.
  • someonediessomeonedies Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,257 Arc User
    Something like this..
    [GH LVL 20 Booster & 150 Chinese Bots Buntle] 400000 Zen
    [GH LVL 16 Booster & 100 Korean Bots Buntle] 200000 Zen

    [GH LVL 12 Booster & 50 Russian Bots Buntle] 50000 Zen
    [GH LVL 8 Booster & Legendary XP Booster Buntle] 20000 Zen
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  • mahburgmahburg Member Posts: 598 Arc User

    mahburg said:

    They already do they are Stronghold packs

    Don't know if that is what the OP was talking about or if that were talking about a pack that would upgrade the guild a level. In the case of the former, it is just a matter of buying them and sticking them into the coffee.

    If they were talking about the later, I would be almost impossible (if not completely) to have such a thing. There are so many variables:
    1. Your individual Guild Level requires different quantities of structures to be at certain levels
    2. Your Alliance Level effects the building discount you will receive.
    3. Your Alliance Position (Helm, Gauntlet, Sword) effects the building discount you will receive.
    4. What you want to build (PvP vs PvE build) determines what structures you will want to build.
    5. What Boons you want determines what structures you want to build.
    I am sure I have forgotten some. The only possible way to do it would be to have some type of al a carte system in place where you order what you want and it gives you a total price. Which I don't even know how they would begin to implement.
    Most guilds traded for or purchased those packs to speed up leveling the guild, therefore it already exists, given the work to increase the guild and investment by those guilds, such an idea as one token to rank up would have to cost enormous sums to make it fair to all those who took at least a year to get their guild up (longer for smaller guilds).
    I doubt folk would pay a thousand bucks for each level (which is what you would be talking about realistically).
    A good alliance with senior guilds already at 20 will be throwing stuff into the lower level guilds for guild marks so progress should be faster for such guilds than it was for the Level 20 Helm.

    Cheers
  • draco16#8040 draco16 Member Posts: 146 Arc User
    You might want to consider boosting alliance discount by selling a token for it.
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  • sundance777sundance777 Member Posts: 1,097 Arc User
    I kept track of my costs when replacing one guild boon building at level 10 with another building to level 10 and it was around 22 million AD worth of materials, or around 50,000 zen for 10 levels on one building.

    The current zen market items and auction house provide most everything needed to accomplish this, except for a couple donations types, such as glory, gold and AD cannot really be bought in those two markets.
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