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Within the link following this post are a list of changes which could help bring the SW in line with other strikers of the game. Obviously it’s a relatively large list which is why higher priority changes are indicated by blue text. The changes suggested in this list were well thought out to strengthen the Soulbinder paragons desirability but also strengthen the class as a whole in the “DPS” department. The suggestions provided were curated by a group of SWs within the Discord server designated to the class which currently hosts 325 members. Hope some of these changes are either implemented or used by the devs as a structure or guide for future changes made to the Warlock 
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@balanced#2849
Nothing we could ever propose in this game and about this class will lead to a desireable setup giving the warlock a competetive role as a striker these days, except cryptic bugs our class again (it allready is), to deal damage like TR´s or a hunter does.
Maybe give us back that silly puppet and we can run a damnationbuild for a short period.
ACT in codg (mod14) told me yesterday, Sod procs for near 500.000.000 in a random/pug group , underperfoming supporter includet.
They "fixed" TR as the best single target class (only to mention, TR was on par with Hunter and GWF) and multiplied damageoutput from SoD about x10.
That´s how thing work in this game. There is no planing and testing, they simply implement broken stuff and done.
Since balance is nothing that could be reached at any time in this game, we should focus on forgotten powers and performance/paragons in general, without even trying to get things back in line, concernig our primary role
I never use : vampric embrance, infernal spheres and more.. Curse Bite, Harrow Storm ? nerver using them
And having stuck with the SW (along with the other die-hard masochists) for the last two years, my bar for pleasant really is not that high.
So here's to hope living eternal.
Here is an updated proposal list for SW. This list contains 5 of the top changes chosen by members of the Warlock community which could help fix some of the primary issues with our class. Thanks for reading
https://docs.google.com/document/d/150FW7NlSydxnPgu8SdcvtRSBJob_T2U0U9ocW2HcfeM
--> Damnation and Temptation still exist! More! Temptation is the current SW mainstream
So, I'm saying it's not the overall SW changes top 5.
Second remark : Those changes are FAST FIX OF SW DPS, IN ORDER TO PUT IT CLOSE TO META
--> It's no way near what SW really need: a complete consistent balanced rework (in fact it's true for all classes, classes interractions, foes, foes interractions, ...)
(But it's not like the devs' will ever give us that... We can branstorm it, but if it's for nothing...)
Now that the context is clear I can go into details
Minus my previous remarks, those "fast fix dps to meta" changes are a good work!
Now you need to make the top 5 for all that
> Agree about some stuff, but only to be realistic...
> Nothing we could ever propose in this game and about this class will lead to a desireable setup giving the warlock a competetive role as a striker these days, except cryptic bugs our class again (it allready is), to deal damage like TR´s or a hunter does.
> Maybe give us back that silly puppet and we can run a damnationbuild for a short period.
> ACT in codg (mod14) told me yesterday, Sod procs for near 500.000.000 in a random/pug group , underperfoming supporter includet.
> They "fixed" TR as the best single target class (only to mention, TR was on par with Hunter and GWF) and multiplied damageoutput from SoD about x10.
> That´s how thing work in this game. There is no planing and testing, they simply implement broken stuff and done.
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> Since balance is nothing that could be reached at any time in this game, we should focus on forgotten powers and performance/paragons in general, without even trying to get things back in line, concernig our primary role
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> I never use : vampric embrance, infernal spheres and more.. Curse Bite, Harrow Storm ? nerver using them
I love in every thread like this some people have to bring up others classes like TR or HR to compare to and in hopes of getting them nerfed instead of just discussing what the actual post is about. TR was in a bad spot for a long time too and recently got buffed but it seems like since SW isn't as good you want it to be you want to bring it back down. I don't even play TR but comparing the two is just silly.
Of course some of the changes were targeted for Fury, it’s our current DPS path not to mention the devs already said they were looking into damnation.
As far as Temptation goes, it’s in a nice spot and doesn’t need as much work as Fury/Damnation (the primary thing I would change in Temptation is the personal Buffs/Debuffs should be converted to work for the group, for example “Darkness”)
The armor pen from PoH is not necessary as Armor pen is an easily obtainable stat in the game with a very generous ratio and the class Features definitely need reworks considering how pathetic all of them are.
The Top 5 list was designed to be quick simple changes as those are the ones the developers seem to be more inclined to make. Presenting very complex changes to mechanics would not encourage the devs to make further changes as they would think it will take too much time (something they never seem to have a lot of)
SW has ALWAYS been a BUGGED class since day one, and still is...
Without BUGGED features SW has ALWAYS been "in a bad spot", and still is...
Balancing is a feature that all recent & decent games MUST provide.
1. If my playtime in this game is about 1 or 2 days,
2. If I am stuck in leveling dungeons and don´t run endcontent and can´t tell anyting about other classes or balance,
3. If I know nothing about NW history and warlock´s history in special,
... I should avoid to comment.
This is not about nerfs, it´s about a class (warlock) that was either broken for 3 years or incompetent for another two in terms of dps and buffs/selfbuffs and the ammount of threats I read about it is endless, same as bugs were a constant factor sicne the beginning.
@balanced#2849 followed @amenar ... but it still looks like unfinished business.
The best paragon to play atm seems to be temptation in PVE (HB temp), wich was pretty clear the moment you read that "rework".
This seems to count for PVP as well (SB temptation).
@balanced#2849 I am thankfull that the horrible time ended, when warlock was nothing than a burdon.
I run beside many TR´s even before SoD rework (the broken version allready got "fixed"), and TR was a dominant class in codg all the time beside GWF and Hunter. I also remeber when my ingame TR friend PM´d me and told that his SoD procced for >5 mio on that dummy without any buffs. I answered he should enjoy until it´s over.
The class was not in a bad spot concerning endcontent PVE wise, same as it is simply broken in PVP since ages.
The only problem about the class was and still is, that a huge majority of player can´t pull the maximum out of that class, far >90% fail I´d say. That´s a different topic to solve when it looks like "it´s all about rotation and timing".
Talking about GWF the percentage of player that deal solid dps is much higher.
If a warlock with a legit setup was able to compete vs a similar geared and skilled TR/GF/GWF/Hunter there was no discussion.
Actually there is a need for a fix and buff of HB-fury (Soulbinder also to some degree), noone wants to be overbuffed btw.
Same as damnation needs some love too, or they simply state that damnation is the solo setup for "lonely wolves" that need a buddy or for leveling content and not ment to be from utility in dungeon runs any more...
Anyway, why is it stupid to compare one striker with the other? Both want to fill their role in this mmo rpg.
I don´t comment on any suggestions because it´s too much wall of text noone wants to read , actually in a not existent discussion.
But I am thankfull for everyone writing them down ... just in case.