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[Feature Request] Limited-access Account-wide Shared RP Bank
dupeks
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Since the implementation of the new RP system, the refining experience overall has been much improved.
However, some of the old pain points (RP item inventory management) have been replaced by new pain points (cross-character transfer of account-bound RP items prior to conversion).
A limited-access Account-wide Shared RP Bank could alleviate the new pain points, providing a big QoL boost to players with alts while avoiding a large-scale rework of character-bound RP in general. It may also take some of the stress off of the mailing and bank systems.
However, some of the old pain points (RP item inventory management) have been replaced by new pain points (cross-character transfer of account-bound RP items prior to conversion).
A limited-access Account-wide Shared RP Bank could alleviate the new pain points, providing a big QoL boost to players with alts while avoiding a large-scale rework of character-bound RP in general. It may also take some of the stress off of the mailing and bank systems.
- Each character would retain their personal RP reserve
- A new limited-access Account-wide Shared RP Bank would be created for each player. Players could only deposit RP into this bank by converting items into RP and only withdraw by spending RP on refining items.
- When players convert character-bound items to RP, they would automatically be deposited into the character's personal RP reserve
- When players convert account-bound or unbound items to RP, they would automatically be deposited into the player's shared RP bank (unless bank is full, in which case a warning could be issued with the option to cancel or deposit into character's personal RP reserve).
- When players refine items, RP is automatically drawn from their character's personal RP reserve first (if not empty), and then from the shared RP bank.
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But wouldn't the easiest solution be to just make one RP Bank that is account-wide instead of limiting us with the current ""character rp bank and you're suggested "account-bound rp only" rp bank? The character bound infatuation the devs have in this game needs to end. It does nothing but make simple tasks tedious and account bound should have become the only binding ages ago.
Sure, there still needs to be a limit as to how much RP can be stored in the account-wide bank. But give us a generous limit and I think most players will be happy with a strictly account-wide bank that holds RP for all your toons. It doesn't need to store enough RP to account for 40 toons either.
Easier for the devs? Likely not.
Easier to sell to the game producers? Definitely not.
Getting rid of BtC RP would likely require reviewing a lot of different places in the game where BtC RP items are awarded. Additionally, as was mentioned by a dev at some point, this would likely also result in the reduction in RP values for those BtC sources. The idea there is that just converting all the BtC RP into BtA would too dramatically devalue RP in general and the devs would reduce these new BtA RP sources to mitigate that. But any reduction would likely involve a negative community reaction.
All of that is to say that I agree with you on a philosophically idealistic level, I think that this limited access shared RP bank idea is a concrete step we can take in the right direction that doesn't also involve opening such a huge can of worms. The devs may be unwilling to remove BtC RP, but maybe would be open to this hybrid bank idea?
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In the preview forum, they did finally express interest in allowing shared RP across account, but wanted to vet the new system for a while first to make sure there weren't any exploits in it before allowing sharing. I'm not aware of any problems with it or even rumors, so hopefully we'll see something implemented in the not-too-distant future. *crosses fingers for Mod13*
I don't take in any cash from Zen sales, I don't pay dev's, I don't have to program the game, etc. I only need to play the game so yes, I only care about the game from a users end. The rest is on the devs/stakeholders to sort out on their end.
I feel like we, and this includes me, come up with ideas but in the back of our heads there's a voice that says "would this work with their limited dev resources or will the stakeholders frown at the idea because of lost sales".
And I do believe that pterias is correct that it was stated in preview forums that the new RP banks would be monitored and there was a possibility of expanding on it. Who knows when or if that will happen.
I definitely agree that in some form having an account bank would be great.
Going back to your idea, for me, I don't like the idea that only account and unbound RP would go into the account wide bank. I also don't like the idea that character RP would be used up first automatically, and then shared RP. I don't want the game deciding which RP gets used first. I know that I personally get waaaaaay more account bound RP than character bound RP. So now I have to make sure I drain my character RP bank first, or leave it empty, in order to go through my account bound RP bank? Why not just add a selector when you refine to choose if you want to take RP from character or account wide banks?
I get that they probably want to limit what you can do though. Why let you use your character bound RP from an alt to upgrade a main toons items.
To clarify, in what situations would you want to spend BtA RP first before BtC RP? The reason I had listed these as automatic is that I couldn't think of a reason you'd want to do that, and it allowed for a simpler solution from the code side.
Regarding your other point of only caring about the user perspective -- I get why people feel that. But if I'm interested in proposing solutions that are more likely to get implemented, then the more context / thinking I can incorporate about how this will play out, the better I am able to curtail my solution to the actual target audience.
Thanks for the discussion!
What I mean is, lets say you buy a Refinement Crystal for 100 zen and it maxes out at 1 mill RP. You transfer it around your account filling it up then when you finish you convert the crystal to RP and it's destroyed, even if it's only half full it's destroyed when you convert. Next time you'll have to spend another 100 zen to do it again. I would like to see it in the Bazaar instead of zen market, but the Bazaar prices are more ridiculous than the zen market and would probably cost 500k AD there.
Would be great if you could fully refine the item and sell 1 mill RP on the AH, but that's probably going to far.