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Update to "a bit where pvp is headed"?

alj0schaalj0scha Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 16 Arc User
edited December 2017 in PvP Discussion
@rgutscheradev Some months ago, the pvp community enjoyed a post about your plans for pvp and its long-term direction. The recent discussion about a variety of requested adjustments shows: We would very much appreciate an update in this matter. And it would be great if it can come before long since winter is here.
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  • kalina311kalina311 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,082 Arc User
    edited December 2017
    If the community moderator @tripsofthrymr he has a direct pipeline ..and @trgluestickz that write good posts among others such as myself cant get a reply from the devs on pvp and CC changes then no one will ...*sigh*

    My xmas wish in the preview pvp thread ..was a post from the devs lol instead the stocking was filled with coal ...and not the Coalescent kind either lol
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  • kalina311kalina311 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,082 Arc User
    Happy new Year devs
  • khandran#2092 khandran
    khandran#2092
         Member Posts: 67 Arc User
    "plans for pvp and its long-term direction"...the key is is in "long-term"...nwo long-term is in multiple years and we all know that this is not an exaggeration since we speak from experience. YEARS. period. Last pvp changes that resulted in more problems were a bone thrown to some hungry dogs to stop their barking (all of us here still writing on these pvp forums). U still fancy wasting all that time on something that is not cared about? We sound like a pathetic desperate bunch begging with no fruits in return for...YEARS. Your choice how u spend your time.
  • kalina311kalina311 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,082 Arc User
    edited January 2018
    we asked for private Q we got it
    we asked for solo Q we got
    we asked for dual spec or loadouts and we got it pvp / pve
    we asked for proper item level / gear score representation pvp / pve got it
    we asked for tenacity to be removed from gear so anything can be used got it
    we asked that some of the bugs in formulas to tenacity regarding crits be adjusted in pvp ..got it
    we asked that drains be removed and adjust ..finally got that after many many builds
    we asked that ring of ambush be adjusted pve / pve .... got that after a while
    we asked that showdow clad armor be fixed in pvp got that
    we asked that potions not be able to be stacked to infinity effecting balance in pvp and pve got that
    we asked for a leader board fix ...that was partially successful
    and bugfix month which affected pvp and pve
    we did get a new pvp set for mod12b

    but then things get muddled after that

    then we get this new cc resist system that no one asked for..with no time to test it and adjust based on our feedback /
    and a bad match making system
    and no way to kick players from matches
    and items the go right thru the new pvp cc resist system
    maps that still have bugs since beta of players getting into spawn camp
    companion cause crazy lag on the stronghold siege map
    and mediocre pvp rewards at best
    and no proper Gg rewards
    and further making things annoying for pve players "forcing them" to do pvp for stronghold resources
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  • khandran#2092 khandran
    khandran#2092
         Member Posts: 67 Arc User
    edited January 2018
    we have been asking for reduction of gear score differences so that all can play pvp like YEARS ago..we got nothing.

    we have been asking for comprehensive balance of classes independent of pve so all can be fun...got nothing but small tweeks to 1-2 classes each mod that results is ineffectual in this "long term". ridiculous shortsighted imo


    These above 2 things are 1000000000000 times (forgot some zeros probablyy) more important than any of the "positives" you list above, and even more important than all of them together. Fix these 2 and all the smaller issues that u write r more trivial than ever.

    But if u and anyone else wants to say differently and r satisfied with status quo, good for u. gg enjoy pvp. *crickets* not only on pvp forum but mainly will be in game..

  • kalina311kalina311 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,082 Arc User
    edited January 2018
    @khandran

    reducing potion stacking is a reduction in overall gear score
    average guilds level catching to thier boons over a couple years also reduces the gap
    alot of players dont like the thought of removing things they worked "hard for" in these forums fyi

    you can find plenty of my posts advocating class balances and independent function of powers for pvp
    dev always grab the lowest hanging fruit problems first

    whether they be more important in some eyes or not it is not like the devs did nothing and i was not going/getting into another class balance type thread going on for hundreds of pages .... that would require millions of hours of dev resources which aint gonna happen

    who said i was satisfied with the status quo ..did you actually read the second half of my post bra ?
    thanks for your reply

    P.S you are also forgetting one thing even if the gear was equalised the builds are not pvp vs pve build unless nubs are given default pvp power loadouts as well .. cause if not it may as well be like they were playing someone over geared with thier crummy pve spec despite item level being identical ..and they will still cry no fair foul pay to win utterances
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  • kalina311kalina311 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,082 Arc User
    edited January 2018
    @etelgrin

    i said mediocre pvp rewards to be generous so that people second and third what i say so i dont appear to be as biased I was waiting for there counter arguments saying there are no ...to little rewards which you are correct
  • khandran#2092 khandran
    khandran#2092
         Member Posts: 67 Arc User
    @kalina311 "that would require millions of hours of dev resources which aint gonna happen " yep...and this is where our arguments seem be different. imo if this does not happen then pvp is dead for good. again, experience in YEARS shows that. if 1 things needs to happen it is gs equalising somehow and no devs have the will to do it it seems. if that happens eve mixed Q could be viable again. Unoless this happens bye bye to nwo is the best option for anyone interested in pvp.
  • kalina311kalina311 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,082 Arc User
    edited January 2018
    @khandran

    even if i want it to happen it still requires resources and wishful thinking .. no our arguments are not different at all
    do i want it to happen yes do i think it will happen no

    equalisation or not guild boons should give no more then say a 10-15% advantage max in pvp and or bis gear
    if not there is no intensive to build or grind for new stuff or support the game ..

    and or have harsh diminishing returns on stats as already been suggested .. so what you work for you have a slight advantage not a mega advantage

    having a 10-15% advantage against people with lets say nothing on / basic gear on still means 2 or 3 of them can kill you
    / take you out which would be fair for you and for them
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  • kalina311kalina311 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,082 Arc User
    edited January 2018
    gear equalisation is still not build or class equalisation tho some clueless scrubs going in with wrong powers and build etc still cry foul when they gets destroyed by a pvp spec even if item level is the same

    there should be a pvp tutorial and or and extra loadout tab that already has 1 or 2 pvp ready loadout done for the new player
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