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namelesshero347namelesshero347 Member Posts: 2,109 Arc User
5% R12 finally upgraded on the 100th try. Never thought I can blow an entire stack of pres wards on a 5% upgrade. I admit I haven't spent any money on the game in a while. But the charge bonus can never be big enough for me to spend another dollar on this game. I would sooner take my money to vegas as I would fairer treatment there.

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  • callumf#9018 callumf Member Posts: 1,710 Arc User
    I feel your pain so much. It so sucks.

    I think the 5% chance is bugged - I have been keeping scores of all the other % chance upgrades and they all seem to be just about right these days i.e. on a 10% chance it seems to take about 10 pres wards to get a successful upgrade.

    But every 5% I have done has always always taken more than 20 tries - I now either dont bother with a 5% upgrade or just suck it in and save up for a Coal Ward
  • minotaur2857minotaur2857 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,141 Arc User
    I've done a 9 3% chances, I've not had one take between 33 and 102 tries, 2 over 100, 4 less than 20, 3 24-33

    5%s I've done 13 max 33 and around 200 tries total so am well ahead on those.

    I've actually had real problems on the 30-50% chances.

    Also where you are upgrading and refinement points have to go in, I'm finding I'm not getting the normal percentage. A R8-12 with no RP you have the wards and MoPs, you click refine, NOT ONE has worked first time in more than 50 although it has when the rank of the enchant is lower.
  • c3rb3r3c3rb3r3 Member Posts: 277 Arc User
    edited December 2017
    Upgraded 5 R11 to R12 yesterday and they all took me more than 40 pres, but I guess it's just rng
  • reg1981reg1981 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,435 Arc User
    I did some upgrading a week or two ago and was on the other end of this. I made 7 R13s from R7s using 2.5 stacks of pres wards! I've also been on the losing side of this with a 10% chance taking 150 pres wards to complete. This was my DC sigil on my OP. I will NEVER forget that painful night lol
  • namelesshero347namelesshero347 Member Posts: 2,109 Arc User

    I feel your pain so much. It so sucks.

    I think the 5% chance is bugged - I have been keeping scores of all the other % chance upgrades and they all seem to be just about right these days i.e. on a 10% chance it seems to take about 10 pres wards to get a successful upgrade.

    But every 5% I have done has always always taken more than 20 tries - I now either dont bother with a 5% upgrade or just suck it in and save up for a Coal Ward

    While it is no surprise that the rate can be dynamic, the rate skew seems to differ depending on the % bucket. I've upgraded multiple ranks on multiple enchantments in the same sitting before. I would do like R7-R8 for all the enchantments, then R8-R9 for all, then R9-R10, and etc. I've notice some times a particular rank can be awesome (like few free upgrades), or can be terrible (taking 2-3 times the expected number of tries each).

    I've already surrendered the 3% to the coal ward. The last time I used pres wards for 3% was on two upgrades that both required more than 150 pres wards each. The number of wards consumed doesn't HAMSTER me off as much as the time consumed when these outlyier result happens, which seem to happen way more often than it should.
  • hammbo1969hammbo1969 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 165 Arc User
    I decided not to use a ward for a 50% chance on my DC today. Knew it was cursed when I hadn't hit after three attempts. I had a load of blue refining stones, so I thought I'd just carry on for HAMSTER n giggles, and finally hit on number 13...

    Can't really complain, as I've refined 3 stones from 11-12 in the old school refinement only using 10 green wards, so I consider this karma.
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