I remember when pressing Sort button the bag was messed up, it was annoying, but it wasn't a big problem since it was just one bag messed up (later I just ignored that button).
Today I've wanted to hit Identify All and accidentally hit Sort All Bags. Jeez, this messed up my whole inventory. Now I'll have to spend an hour or more to fix this. But the problem is that eventually I'll accidentally hit Sort All Bags again since the option is near Identify All option, which I use daily (even hourly).
Please under Display Options... (or somewhere) give us an option to remove options from context menu (also give us an option to remove Sort button).
An offtopic request: - please reduce the number of steps needed for refining all trash items (green items, also please include blue items too): 1) Identify All 2) Convert Refinement Points ... 3) Choose Items 4) Choose convertible equipment 5) Convert All
Everyone sorts stuff in inventory in their own way, I don't see a point for this Sort button, especially Sort All Bags thing.
Having an option to sort things fast would be really nice, but only if it would sort things in a way I like (for example, moving BtC stuff to the bottom bags, leaving empty spaces if no more BtC stuff, then moving all BtA stuff to the next empty bag from the bottom, etc., also move down some items I don't use atm, but there are more rules, so I'd need to write a complex script for an actually useful sorting). But I'm sure that there would be players that definitely wouldn't like such sorting.
My point is that it's impossible to sort things in inventory so that most people would like it (since obviously everyone sorts stuff differently). That's why "Sort" and "Sort All Bags" should be removed entirely (or at least, it should be easily avoidable). Currently it's hard to avoid misclicks on "Sort All Bags" since it's near "Identify All", which is used often.
Currently if you press Sort All Bags then the top bags will be filled up (it's just the opposite of what I've expected - there no logic for this king of sorting since you definitely want to have the first bag empty for having a quick way to manage new things you get). If you press Sort All Bags again then nothing will happen (it neither puts things back to the places they were, nor it moves stuff to the bottom bags).
Btw, I don't like "Buy a A Bag" too (things in context menu should be only the ones that are often used, I don't buy bags often, and I definitely wouldn't buy a bag from context menu since I'd use at least 15% coupon first or buy it from AH). "Buy a A Bag" is also near "Identify All", that's why I've mentioned it.
I don't disagree with you that the option sounds better on paper than in reality...but maybe you need to slow down a bit?
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kreatyveMember, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 10,545Community Moderator
I love the Sort All Bags option, but I wish it would sort to the bottom instead of the top. But that's just my personal preference.
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someonediesMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 1,257Arc User
Hate it! Please, add a confirmation dialog to "TAKE ONE HOUR'S BREAK, REORGANIZE YOUR THINGS" button.
a "are you sure?" confirmation window would help a lot
It would be better than nothing, but it's not a solution. Neither Sort, nor Sort All Bags should be there at all. While Sort button is easy to ignore (and it does less harm), the Sort All Bags option is hard to ignore (and it's a real pita) since it's near Identify All option, which is used very often.
The button name "Sort" is misleading. This "sorting" is made in the worst possible way: - moves all items up (why would anyone possibly want this? The first bag should be empty for new items, taking items from mail, reposting AH, etc., you wouldn't want to scroll all the way down every time you want to post something on AH or send items in mail, this is just crazy) - puts all BtC, BtA and Unbound items together - puts your important items with trash items together - in other words, it makes a complete mess in your inventory ("Sort" should be renamed to "Mess up")
I have hit the "Sort All Bags" button by mistake once when I was attempting to hit "Identify All". It was a pain for sure. But ever sense I have just slowed down before I push the button to be sure now.
On a side note, what is the logic behind the "sort" anyway, what are they putting together? From what I saw the one time it had no logic and was almost random in feel.
It is likely sorting the items by either Alphabetical order (using English I guess? I assume alpha order is language specific lol) or by internal item identifier (every item has an internal ID tag, either a number or alpha code and sometimes they are weird).
Again, i think this looks better on paper than it plays in game. I like the sort on the bags, as it makes it easier to find stuff. Sort All, I would never use. If it sorted everything to the bottom I might use it. If you could lock specific bags so they weren't sorted, I might use it more..probably not though.
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rickcase276Member, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 1,404Arc User
I do not mind the sort all too, but I would love to be able to tell it the order I would want it sorted. I would prefer it to sort all "potion" type things to the top, for easy access, but instead it sorts armor type stuff.
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plasticbatMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 12,508Arc User
edited November 2017
I never try 'sort all bags' because I don't fully understand what 'sort all bags' does. I don't want it to mess thing up.
There are 3 ways I interpret what 'sort all bags' does:
1. Get every items from the inventory, sort them and then distribute them one by one from the top bag and move along to the bottom bag. (If this is the one, I will hate it).
2. Sort each bag individually. (If this is the one, I may be okay with it although most likely not).
3. Something else
So, the question is: what does 'sort all bags' do?
Thanks in advance.
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rickcase276Member, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 1,404Arc User
... So, the question is: what does 'sort all bags' do? ...
It does the worst possible thing: moves all items to top bags, there is no sorting (BtC, BtA and Unbound items are put together), I don't know why they call it sorting.
Shouldn't be too hard to add a confirmation to it.
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plasticbatMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 12,508Arc User
edited December 2017
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Having done it a few times by mistake I am not even sure they are sorted by item type either. Each time I have done it, it seemed more like a jumbled mess shoved to the top of the bag until it is full and then continue down the bags until t ran out of items. Each time I tried to see the pattern and it didn't seem to have one I could see.
I can never foresee a time I would willingly use this feature.
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Having an option to sort things fast would be really nice, but only if it would sort things in a way I like (for example, moving BtC stuff to the bottom bags, leaving empty spaces if no more BtC stuff, then moving all BtA stuff to the next empty bag from the bottom, etc., also move down some items I don't use atm, but there are more rules, so I'd need to write a complex script for an actually useful sorting).
But I'm sure that there would be players that definitely wouldn't like such sorting.
My point is that it's impossible to sort things in inventory so that most people would like it (since obviously everyone sorts stuff differently). That's why "Sort" and "Sort All Bags" should be removed entirely (or at least, it should be easily avoidable). Currently it's hard to avoid misclicks on "Sort All Bags" since it's near "Identify All", which is used often.
Currently if you press Sort All Bags then the top bags will be filled up (it's just the opposite of what I've expected - there no logic for this king of sorting since you definitely want to have the first bag empty for having a quick way to manage new things you get).
If you press Sort All Bags again then nothing will happen (it neither puts things back to the places they were, nor it moves stuff to the bottom bags).
Btw, I don't like "Buy a A Bag" too (things in context menu should be only the ones that are often used, I don't buy bags often, and I definitely wouldn't buy a bag from context menu since I'd use at least 15% coupon first or buy it from AH). "Buy a A Bag" is also near "Identify All", that's why I've mentioned it.
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Dead🔪Neither Sort, nor Sort All Bags should be there at all.
While Sort button is easy to ignore (and it does less harm), the Sort All Bags option is hard to ignore (and it's a real pita) since it's near Identify All option, which is used very often.
The button name "Sort" is misleading. This "sorting" is made in the worst possible way:
- moves all items up (why would anyone possibly want this? The first bag should be empty for new items, taking items from mail, reposting AH, etc., you wouldn't want to scroll all the way down every time you want to post something on AH or send items in mail, this is just crazy)
- puts all BtC, BtA and Unbound items together
- puts your important items with trash items together
- in other words, it makes a complete mess in your inventory ("Sort" should be renamed to "Mess up")
On a side note, what is the logic behind the "sort" anyway, what are they putting together? From what I saw the one time it had no logic and was almost random in feel.
Again, i think this looks better on paper than it plays in game. I like the sort on the bags, as it makes it easier to find stuff. Sort All, I would never use. If it sorted everything to the bottom I might use it. If you could lock specific bags so they weren't sorted, I might use it more..probably not though.
There are 3 ways I interpret what 'sort all bags' does:
1. Get every items from the inventory, sort them and then distribute them one by one from the top bag and move along to the bottom bag. (If this is the one, I will hate it).
2. Sort each bag individually. (If this is the one, I may be okay with it although most likely not).
3. Something else
So, the question is: what does 'sort all bags' do?
Thanks in advance.
I can never foresee a time I would willingly use this feature.