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Dungeon Astral Diamonds/Keys

lordhavelocklordhavelock Member Posts: 17 Arc User
edited September 2017 in General Discussion (PC)
New NW player here. At some point I bumped into the guy in Protector's Enclave who gave out Dungeon Keys, and I learned I need to go to him prior to running a dungeon. Since then, I go on a dungeon run about once every other day or so (I like the Pirate Lair and Cloak Towers best so far). Each day the runs give me about 8k rough AD. That's great! Yesterday, for the first time, I played with some RL friends (instead of in-game rando PUGs). The four of us ran two dungeons. We all had keys we'd got some time before, and then got another for the same day. No problem.

But we were having a great time, and decided to run another (third) dungeon. Go to get another key, oh, it costs AD now... Huh... Ok, so spent 2500 AD to get 8000 AD. Strange, but why not, still come out ahead with 5.5k AD...

But then after that third run, we didn't get any AD.

Is that normal? Or did we do something wrong?

I noticed, too, that I can't save up keys throughout the week to use on the weekend (when I have more time to run with friends). Why the limit on dungeon runs?

I got VIP which gives me Epic Keys, but I can't use these, not strong enough for the Epic dungeons yet... but those at least pile up, so that's good, I guess... ?

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  • lordhavelocklordhavelock Member Posts: 17 Arc User
    edited September 2017
    P.S. Just to add... We then ran together a daily dungeon called Ghost Stories that I had on my list that the lady Harper in PE gave me... that was hard, but we managed. Lots of fun... But that dungeon didn't require a key, never had, but also never gave AD. It's confusing. I guess my question is... What are the dungeon/key/AD rules?
  • ollybongo89#3420 ollybongo89
    ollybongo89#3420
         Member Posts: 138 Arc User
    You only get ad for the first 2 dungeons and first 2 skirmishes you do per day.
    Also ghost stories is not a dungeon, its a daily mission part of tyranny of dragons / wod campaign
  • lordhavelocklordhavelock Member Posts: 17 Arc User
    ollybongo89#3420 said:

    You only get ad for the first 2 dungeons and first 2 skirmishes you do per day.

    Also ghost stories is not a dungeon, its a daily mission part of tyranny of dragons / wod campaign

    Oh huh. Ok. Thanks for the response. Really? They only want you playing two dungeons a day? Then why would anyone (other than noob mistakes like mine) pay AD to run a third dungeon? Why even bother selling more keys if they don't give you rewards?

    And they limit how much rough AD is given out AND how much you can refine each day? Double-time gates? Ugh.
  • greywyndgreywynd Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 7,158 Arc User
    Actually, when you hit 70 you get more rAD from salvage than you do from the run. There's no limit to how much rAD you can get in a day. There is only the 36k refining limit.
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  • plasticbatplasticbat Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 12,460 Arc User
    edited September 2017
    For the first 2 dungeon runs, you don't need a key to get AD. You just can't open the chest but you can get your AD.
    In short, don't pay 2.5K AD for that key. Just do the run without the key (if you don't have the key).
    You get your AD after you killed the last boss. Not when you open the chest.

    And, in mod 12b, that will be changed but that is a totally different topic.
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  • reg1981reg1981 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,435 Arc User
    If you want to overcome this, use your second character slot. Most players in this game have several "Alt" characters that they use for additional runs. These alts do not need to have extensive time or gear put in to be able to run those little dungeons and the AD can be moved to your main character or used to make the alt a little stronger/faster.

    I do recommend having a damage dealer and a support character like a DC or tank because support classes are needed in a bad way for most end game content!!!
  • lordhavelocklordhavelock Member Posts: 17 Arc User
    edited September 2017
    Thanks for the comments everyone.

    @Plasticbat - What do you mean "...in mod 12b, that will be changed..."?

    @reg1981 - Ah, yes, the Alt Game. Having played Cryptic's Star Trek Online for years, I'm well aware of that as an option (and now already see how to transfer Dilithium, er, uhm, Astral Diamonds between characters). Dunno that I'll be placing that much time into Neverwinter. Right now just taking it very casual, and playing with friends who had already played NW and finally got me to try it out.

    They're very casual too though, so they didn't know how the AD/Dungeon key thing worked, so posted here. Ok thanks all!
  • plasticbatplasticbat Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 12,460 Arc User
    edited September 2017
    lordhavelock said:

    Thanks for the comments everyone.

    @Plasticbat - What do you mean "...in mod 12b, that will be changed..."?

    @reg1981 - Ah, yes, the Alt Game. Having played Cryptic's Star Trek Online for years, I'm well aware of that as an option (and now already see how to transfer Dilithium, er, uhm, Astral Diamonds between characters). Dunno that I'll be placing that much time into Neverwinter. Right now just taking it very casual, and playing with friends who had already played NW and finally got me to try it out.

    They're very casual too though, so they didn't know how the AD/Dungeon key thing worked, so posted here. Ok thanks all!

    https://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/neverwinter#/discussion/1234049/official-feedback-thread-random-queues/p1

    Also, you need read page 13 because certain thing was amended.

    In addition, that may not be final but it probably is .....
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  • lordhavelocklordhavelock Member Posts: 17 Arc User
    Thanks. I'll take a look.
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