Twisted weapons

regizaki · July 2017

I've noticed that the requirements for twisted weapons are lessened so does that mean that twisted weapons are irrelevant now? Should I get them first then run river district or just skip them all together?

xinexix · July 2017

Twisted weapons have been irrelevant since the elemental weapons were released. Skip them and go for RD weapons.

regizaki · July 2017

Thank you

justmarionette · August 2017

If someone doesn't love twisted set, they don't use it. I actually got mine not long ago but it's very good 4 me. I've got + 5000 might and 3000 protection on 10665 dps.
(while info says 2500 might and 1000 protection)
So, u'll need to try on your char.
Gg)

ravenskya · August 2017

River District is better than Twisted in most cases. On my HR I'm skipping straight from the free artifact weapons to the River District Aboleth weapons to save time and keys.

markeen · August 2017

My GF still has twisted. Works for him. My HR used Drowned till RD. Skipped SOMI due to the time and grind for restoration resources. Only issue I have about any weapon set that comes with a campaign (like SOMI and RD) is that the weapon abilities usually only pertain to that specific area (even twisted) and by the time you level them or get them restored you're on to the next mod and they've become irrelevant.

ravenskya · August 2017

Yeah, I think I still have Twisted on my GF, and maybe on my TR now that I think about it. I went Fey on the Pally and Aboleth on the HR. I was considering just buying Titansteel for the TR and skipping the middle, though I figure I'll wait until the new update to see what new stuff is floating around before making the purchase.

mebengalsfan · August 2017

Twisted vs RD vs Guild Mastercraft vs Elemental vs Relic.....

Relic is BiS ATM and this will change in the future. Is it worth investing all the time required to obtain these weapons - yes if you plan to maximize your character damage.
RD are good alternatives to the Relic and depending upon the build some of the RD weapons are BiS
Guild Mastercraft are a AH buy and can be BiS for some build

As for Twisted, just skip them as the three weapons sets above IMO are better than the Twisted.

deadlycode · August 2017

Where does titansteel stand?

ravenskya · August 2017

If you are with others that have titansteel - at the top

mebengalsfan · September 2017

ravenskya said:
If you are with others that have titansteel - at the top

Not 100% true. Only true when doing alliance runs.

silverkelt · September 2017

frankly they are more or less a wash.. until you get multiple people with SH weapons.. then they become superior, basically you need at least 2 to match , but 3 will make them superior in any run more or less all 5 makes them super source in comparison.

twisted has been dead since Mod 10 release basically and RD made it easier to get your own set.. you can now buy a good set for like 30 k AD in mod 12.. , so you dont even need to grind anything really.. it a sux set compared to the others.. but it doesnt matter, its 100% better then twisted, because its damage base is so much higher.

jettauk · September 2017

mebengalsfan#9264 said:

ravenskya said:
If you are with others that have titansteel - at the top
Not 100% true. Only true when doing alliance runs.

This is incorrect. On paper if you are solo the Titansteel weapons are 0.66% worse off than SOMI weapons BUT that is assuming you have Offence up 100% of the time you can, no delay in reapplying, no accidental Defence so in reality they are better.

Once you have at least one other in your group with them them surpass SOMI weapons without question and with a full party they are godly.

tldr: Titansteel is BIS at the moment.

trinity706 · September 2017

Twisted is the easiest set to get and upgrade other than the elemental set.

- Relic Set (SoMI) requires multiple dungeon runs just to TRY and upgrade.
- River District set requires campaign progression sacrifice or campaign progression then more time to get the discounts or the set (at the highest cost).
- Titansteel costs quite a lot to buy/craft.

Twisted is still a viable weapon set and will hold you over until you get something you feel is better.

jettauk · September 2017

trinity706#8838 said:
Twisted is the easiest set to get and upgrade other than the elemental set.

- Relic Set (SoMI) requires multiple dungeon runs just to TRY and upgrade.
- River District set requires campaign progression sacrifice or campaign progression then more time to get the discounts or the set (at the highest cost).
- Titansteel costs quite a lot to buy/craft.

Twisted is still a viable weapon set and will hold you over until you get something you feel is better.

Twisted is a bad choice period. Relic at green is better than twisted at Legendary, there is no excuse other than laziness not to get one of the sets at green which all surpass twisted at legendary.
If you want something to tide over then stick with elemental, twisted is not much better and not worth wasting time/refinement upgrading when you can be working on a far superior set.

trinity706 · September 2017

@jettauk The twisted set provides over 3.5k power when stacked to 24 at green. Even though the Relic (and River District set) has slightly better stats at green to upgrade them players have to repeatedly run SVA for marks, not to mention less and less players are running the content meaning less chances to upgrade...

The relic set damage bonus is easily forfeited for the defense bonus if a player use their L3 ability, easily doable when standing in the red and wanting to try and escape damage vs using an encounter and chancing death just for a damage boost.

At Legendary a particular relic set grants the following over the Twisted set at Legendary:
+15 damage
+6% everfrost damage resistance
+5547 power (only 1707 power compared to the Legendary Twisted set fully damage stacked)
+1330 critical strike
+1330 recovery

Various boons and equipment can more than compensate for the difference in stats as well as taking less time to obtain.

Also the Twisted set is BtA meaning players with multiple characters of the same class can share the set..

ravenskya · September 2017

trinity706#8838 said:
@jettauk The twisted set provides over 3.5k power when stacked to 24 at green. Even though the Relic (and River District set) has slightly better stats at green to upgrade them players have to repeatedly run SVA for marks, not to mention less and less players are running the content meaning less chances to upgrade...

The relic set damage bonus is easily forfeited for the defense bonus if a player use their L3 ability, easily doable when standing in the red and wanting to try and escape damage vs using an encounter and chancing death just for a damage boost.

At Legendary a particular relic set grants the following over the Twisted set at Legendary:
+15 damage
+6% everfrost damage resistance
+5547 power (only 1707 power compared to the Legendary Twisted set fully damage stacked)
+1330 critical strike
+1330 recovery

Various boons and equipment can more than compensate for the difference in stats as well as taking less time to obtain.

Also the Twisted set is BtA meaning players with multiple characters of the same class can share the set..

The river district sets do not require MSVA for marks - only the relic weapons.

I know Trinity knows this, but just in case anyone misreads it, I wanted to clarify.

mebengalsfan · September 2017

jettauk said:

mebengalsfan#9264 said:

ravenskya said:
If you are with others that have titansteel - at the top
Not 100% true. Only true when doing alliance runs.
This is incorrect. On paper if you are solo the Titansteel weapons are 0.66% worse off than SOMI weapons BUT that is assuming you have Offence up 100% of the time you can, no delay in reapplying, no accidental Defence so in reality they are better.

Once you have at least one other in your group with them them surpass SOMI weapons without question and with a full party they are godly.

tldr: Titansteel is BIS at the moment.

The reality is this...

If you have two players running the Guild Weapons and everyone is in the same alliance all 5 players will get +4% to their stats.

If you run with two players using the weapon and no one is in your alliance just you and the other player with the guild weapon gets +4% to your stats and no one else does.

When running with alliance players all players get the bonus. So best bet would be for the Tank, Healer, and buffers to run the Guild weapon with the DPS using SoMI or RD weapons.

captflint · September 2017

> @mebengalsfan#9264 said:
> If you are with others that have titansteel - at the top
>
> Not 100% true. Only true when doing alliance runs.
>
> This is incorrect. On paper if you are solo the Titansteel weapons are 0.66% worse off than SOMI weapons BUT that is assuming you have Offence up 100% of the time you can, no delay in reapplying, no accidental Defence so in reality they are better.
>
> Once you have at least one other in your group with them them surpass SOMI weapons without question and with a full party they are godly.
>
> tldr: Titansteel is BIS at the moment.
>
> The reality is this...
>
> If you have two players running the Guild Weapons and everyone is in the same alliance all 5 players will get +4% to their stats.
>
> If you run with two players using the weapon and no one is in your alliance just you and the other player with the guild weapon gets +4% to your stats and no one else does.
>
> When running with alliance players all players get the bonus. So best bet would be for the Tank, Healer, and buffers to run the Guild weapon with the DPS using SoMI or RD weapons.

Titansteel and guild weapons are two different things.

mebengalsfan · October 2017

captflint#2758 said:
> @mebengalsfan#9264 said:

> If you are with others that have titansteel - at the top

>

> Not 100% true. Only true when doing alliance runs.

>

> This is incorrect. On paper if you are solo the Titansteel weapons are 0.66% worse off than SOMI weapons BUT that is assuming you have Offence up 100% of the time you can, no delay in reapplying, no accidental Defence so in reality they are better.

>

> Once you have at least one other in your group with them them surpass SOMI weapons without question and with a full party they are godly.

>

> tldr: Titansteel is BIS at the moment.

>

> The reality is this...

>

> If you have two players running the Guild Weapons and everyone is in the same alliance all 5 players will get +4% to their stats.

>

> If you run with two players using the weapon and no one is in your alliance just you and the other player with the guild weapon gets +4% to your stats and no one else does.

>

> When running with alliance players all players get the bonus. So best bet would be for the Tank, Healer, and buffers to run the Guild weapon with the DPS using SoMI or RD weapons.

Titansteel and guild weapons are two different things.

It is my understanding, depending upon the class the weapon may contain a different name, but for this thread the Titansteel weapons and offhand are the upgraded mastercrafted guild weapons. There is titansteel amor gear which is the second level of mastercrafted gear.

The base guild and upgrade guild weapons provide the same set bonus of 1% increase in various stats.

vdro · October 2017

regizaki#8947 said:
I've noticed that the requirements for twisted weapons are lessened so does that mean that twisted weapons are irrelevant now? Should I get them first then run river district or just skip them all together?

You could get the twisted weapons and refine them, then put them into your next weapon and sword knot. It will help with raising your artifact weapon and sword knot to legendary which will help a lot.

ravenskya · October 2017

Or just skip them now and buy those new weapons off the AH - I just bought a set for my alts (they are equivalent to the RD weapons only without the set bonus). So the stats are better than Twisted and the set currently costs about 50K AD per character.

Twisted weapons

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