200% debuff cap

jano · June 2017

What counts towards the 200 debuff cap? Does my 60% dr count as the first 100% then powers and feats make the next 100%? Or does the 200% come soley from powers and feats? Can i reach 200% capped debuff as a cw?

dupeks · June 2017

https://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/neverwinter#/discussion/1226436/pve-damage-resistance-debuffs-effectiveness/p1

All of your answers can be found with a good reading of the above.

The short answers: DR vs. RI and additional capped debuffs are additive in the same component of the calculation. Which means that you can use capped debuffs to make up for a lack of RI (but you can't over-stack RI to achieve more debuffs, that doesn't work).

Capped vs. Uncapped debuffs are entirely separate, and impact completely separate components of the damage calculation. They do synergize though, since they are multiplicative with each other. So you can't use uncapped debuffs to make up for capped ones or vice versa, but if you have a lot of both then they both are even better.

On paper, CW can get pretty close to capping debuffs. Using a couple different mechanics interactions / strategies related to debuff stacking (for instance stacking smolder) it's possible to cap it yourself (but this is a bit more like advanced techniques and relies on mechanics that aren't necessarily all working perfectly). In a group though, it's usually easy to get to cap since a number of classes can contribute a bit to this and CW makes up the rest.

jano · June 2017

Thank you for the reply and link. So if I understand what I read the my 60% RI is indeed the first 100% then i add uncapped debuffs till i reach the 200% mark then i multipy any uncapped debuffs, correct?

dupeks · June 2017

You can think of it that way, sure. To be precise:

"My 60% RI is indeed the first 100% then I add capped debuffs until I reach 200% mark then I multiply the sum of any uncapped debuffs"

[RI - DR + (additional capped debuffs)] = Sum of Capped Debuffs (capped to 200%)

Final Effectiveness = (Sum of Capped Debuffs) * (Sum of Uncapped Debuffs)

jano · June 2017

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wileecoyoteym · June 2017

60% RI
Wicked reminder 21%
Sly Flourish 10%
Devine glow 17.5%
Prophecy of doom empowered 27.5%
Bane 30%

In total it's capped at 200%?

Now say I add a uncapped sellsword 10%

Is this a total of 220%?

rjc9000 · June 2017

The calculation seem correct.

60% RI puts you at the basic 100% effectiveness (ie, no increase/decrease in damage from debuffs).

[1.0 + (0.21 + 0.10 +0.175 + 0.275 +0.30)] = 2.06
2.06 > 2.00, so round down to 2.0

2.0 * (1+ 0.1)
2.0 * 1.1
2.2 or 220%

aasur · June 2017

Been playing around with practical examples of how certain group compositions can hit 200% debuff cap. In reality, I think groups will be using some combinations of artifacts and weapon enchants which will push debuff even further past cap, but will make up for the fact that not everything can be up 100% of the time. Feel free to add your own combinations!

MOF CW + AC DC = 204%
MOF - Combustive Action
MOF - Ray of Enfeeblement
MOF - Swath of Destruction
AC - Divine Glow
AC - Bear Your Sins
AC - Condemning Gaze

DO DC + OP = 200%
DO - Divine Glow
DO - Bear Your Sins
DO - Prophesy of Doom (x3 Empowered)
DO - Condemning Gaze
OP - Bane (x3)

MOF CW = 205.5%
CW - Combustive Action (x2 via Smolder/Rimfire Stacking)
MOF - Ray of Enfeeblement
MOF - Swath of Destruction (x2 via Smolder/Rimfire Stacking)

AC DC + OP + HB SW = 207.5%
AC - Divine Glow
AC - Bear Your Sins
AC - Condemning Gaze
OP - Bane (x3)
HB - Pillar of Power
HB - Dreadtheft

GF/GWF + OP + HB SW + TR = 204%
GF/GWF - Mark
OP - Bane (x3)
HB - Pillar of Power
HB - Dreadtheft
TR - Sly Flourish
TR - Wicked Reminder

200% debuff cap

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