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Lets talk about Drops !!!

zardon70zardon70 Member Posts: 91 Arc User
edited April 2017 in General Discussion (Xbox One)
How is it that when you bust your fluffy hamsters! to get 1st on leaderboard you always get junk ? And the runners up get more.

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  • omegarealities#7219 omegarealities
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    So support characters deserve nothing?
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  • omegarealities#7219 omegarealities
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    Really a cleric is going to beat out a GWF? How do you figure?
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  • omegarealities#7219 omegarealities
    omegarealities#7219
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    edited April 2017
    defiantone99 said:

    omegarealities#7219 said:

    Really a cleric is going to beat out a GWF? How do you figure?

    It was a joke. The OP obviously plays a DPS.
    Your edit and my post overlapped. :)

    Yep. Many DPSers give little credit to the support characters who keep them alive.
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  • omegarealities#7219 omegarealities
    omegarealities#7219
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    defiantone99 said:

    omegarealities#7219 said:

    defiantone99 said:

    omegarealities#7219 said:

    Really a cleric is going to beat out a GWF? How do you figure?

    It was a joke. The OP obviously plays a DPS.
    Your edit and my post overlapped. :)

    Yep. Many DPSers give little the to the support characters who keep them alive.
    The majority of damage on Paingiver usually comes from the buffs of the supports. So, this post is kinda funny.
    Exactly. I was playing buff/debuff cleric with a friend and he commented that he had never made it through a dungeon so easily.
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  • mordekai#1901 mordekai
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    My 2.5 GF was the only character to not get wiped in IG phase 2 the other day. He was in with a group who were all 3.1k+.
    Reflect damage kicked in and even the 4k DC got burned.
    He doesn't do much damage, but survived long enough for everyone else to earn back in and finish the silver phase.
    Ẃe went on and got gold.
    At the end, his highest position on the boards was third on damage taken.

    While the scoreboards are a nice way for DPS to puff their chests out, they don't particularly reflect very well every character's contribution to a successful resolution.
  • evilsquirrel03evilsquirrel03 Member Posts: 36 Arc User
    Is the point of this discussion to talk about why no should care about the stupid leaderboard at the end of dungeons or why we should care about the number of times we run these dungeons and consistently get garbage? If they want to make the content repeatable why not let us choose the rewards that we want to work towards? Why not let us collect residuum (that stuff that in real D&D was used to make enchanted items) to fashion it into whatever the heck we wanted...the higher the plus, the more we'd have to grind the dungeon. Or hey...how about at least letting us choose our legendary items when they drop...I know a lot of work went into creating that +5 Ring of Orcus, but we really don't want it.

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  • omegarealities#7219 omegarealities
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    No, I think th OP is ticked off because someone is getting what he thinks deserves.
  • mcgwarfacemcgwarface Member Posts: 160 Arc User
    I wish they had a deal w pizza delivery. Free pizza coupons drop :) Then we would be happy ;)

    I remember in EQ you could order pizza through the game lol.
  • mordekai#1901 mordekai
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    The way I see it, group success should manage the main reward, and if you're opening a chest with a key, particularly one you bought, then that should have the same drop rate chance for everyone.
    It takes the HAMSTER with power sharing sharing DCs and GFs chucking ITTF left and right when some guy says "I did more damage than you so I should get more goodies"
  • sundance777sundance777 Member Posts: 1,097 Arc User
    And which leaderboard? Cause my pally is usually on top of two of them just like the deeps are....only on two different boards cept if I wasnt in the run, the deeps would lead the most death board too, wait, they run in without me all the time and die so yeah, I guess they are on more boards...

    I don't think paingiver has anything to do with RNG
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  • omegarealities#7219 omegarealities
    omegarealities#7219
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    edited April 2017
    I think the whole thing is RNG. People need to remember that dungeons are a team effort, not a competition.
  • mordekai#1901 mordekai
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    As far as drops go, certainly for skirmishes and the +1 to +5 rings and companion gear I'd like to see more relevant scaling.
    I'm not usually bothered by whatever I get but last night, I got a green +1 companion ring for a Gold run on IG.
    I would understand anyone feeling cheated with that.
    I'd suggest.
    Bronze +1 to +3
    Silver +2 to +4
    Gold +3 to +5

  • omegarealities#7219 omegarealities
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    edited April 2017
    I'm wondering if the so called "runners up" in the OP were actually 1st on a different leaderboard. I can't see it being possible that the OP was first on all of them. Too bad this has become a "hit and run" thread.
  • sundance777sundance777 Member Posts: 1,097 Arc User
    It's just RNG, like the 'board game' you finish and the dice are rolled to determine the prize from a pre-made table...it seems to have nothing to do with your damage output, the speed of the run or how well you did in the run. The only one that seems to use silver/gold is eDemo for the twisted ichor. Although I heard you can not get a +5 in IG unless you hit gold, but idk that to be a fact.
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  • omegarealities#7219 omegarealities
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    Exactly. But there are some people that do not want to understand that.
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  • mordekai#1901 mordekai
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    I think that loot tables in P&P games probably offer a false equivalency.
    Good DMs don't use them, and even Gary Gygax said (and I'm paraphrasing now,) that good DMs only roll dice for the noise they make.
    If you played in a D&D game with a good DM, you'd rarely come away from a dungeon with a sack full of useless gear, and certainly not for your main "prize".
    I did once play a game of Rolemaster under a GM who held the dice as the arbiter of all. Worst HAMSTER game I ever played in.
    DMs who blame HAMSTER dice rolls for players disappointment aren't doing it right.

    So when they start playing a version of the game that HAS to by its very nature be governed by strict RNG, it can feel like being cheated. When its far more likely that your old DM was ignoring the dice to enhance the game.
  • mcgwarfacemcgwarface Member Posts: 160 Arc User
    Remember though the treasure drop rate in the board game is 30%....not 2-5%
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