New PVP Modality!

darktime1989 · February 2017

I want suggest a new Mod for PVP!
Approssimatly:
1-New ranking with a new points calculator= Esample- (Kills x Vinctory+Match points)/ Death x Loose
2-Give a weekly's gifts for 1st pvp page-esample-1st(2kk),2nd(1,8kk),3rd(1,5kk) ecc ecc. Reset ranking every Week!
3-Remove daily AD for pvp (For NO PUG), give just 60 marks for first daily win!
4- Add 3 New maps in Dominion
5- Remove GG and Stronghold (waiting for a new idea for them)
6- New "Combat league" just for Dominion Solo or Duo (as classic event)
7-Combat League gift every a lot of points (as classic)

I said all for one my istant idea, you can work for it!
What do you think?

trivialrage · February 2017

I like it, or anything to change the broken system we have now.

kiraskytower · February 2017

darktime1989 said:

3-Remove daily AD for pvp (For NO PUG), give just 60 marks for first daily win!

Every time this is suggested people point out the same thing ... it discourages any new people from coming into PvP and is thus ultimately extremely bad for PvP as a whole.

darktime1989 said:

4- Add 3 New maps in Dominion

People have been asking for new maps for years now ... and every time a new map is made (GG, IWD PvP, SH PvP) it ends up empty. I can't say I am surprised that the Devs don't give much priority to adding more PvP content or maps as it seems to be totally unappreciated by the community.

darktime1989 said:

5- Remove GG and Stronghold (waiting for a new idea for them)

I know many who still do GG matches. I've done several in the past week myself and had a blast doing them. I certainly cannot advocate removing content in this game with this set of Devs ... remember all the old mod 5 dungeons? Yea ... they are still not all back yet ..

SH PvP certainly does need some love though as right now the rewards for it (Banners) are pretty much useless ... not to mention the annoyance of companion bonuses in this mode. Again ... don't ask for removal of content, ask for it to be fixed.

darktime1989 said:

6- New "Combat league" just for Dominion Solo or Duo (as classic event)?

This I wholeheartedly support - bring back the Neverwinter Champions League in the solo or due queue format! No premades ... but we also really need either a fixed ELO for this or we need these queues to be based on item level.

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crowdsourced · February 2017

xsayajinx1 said:

Only 5v5 (competitive) PvP should hand out rewards in a NCL event where you play Domination like it was intended with your team, communication & tactic.

While I do not disagree that 5v5 fights with fully geared players all on teamspeak/discord or whatever app the kids are using nowadays is the true measure of PVP skill, I cannot support the decision to only give rewards to 5v5 queue or even have separate queues due to the current playerbase.

If this had happen a few years ago, it would be different. As of right now, I do think solo / duo queue NCL would produce the most activity and success in an event. I'm not even so sure about a 5v5 NCL leaderboard just because it will benefit what.... 3 guilds in total?

darktime1989 · February 2017

kiraskytower said:

darktime1989 said:

3-Remove daily AD for pvp (For NO PUG), give just 60 marks for first daily win!
Every time this is suggested people point out the same thing ... it discourages any new people from coming into PvP and is thus ultimately extremely bad for PvP as a whole.
darktime1989 said:

4- Add 3 New maps in Dominion
People have been asking for new maps for years now ... and every time a new map is made (GG, IWD PvP, SH PvP) it ends up empty. I can't say I am surprised that the Devs don't give much priority to adding more PvP content or maps as it seems to be totally unappreciated by the community.
darktime1989 said:

5- Remove GG and Stronghold (waiting for a new idea for them)
I know many who still do GG matches. I've done several in the past week myself and had a blast doing them. I certainly cannot advocate removing content in this game with this set of Devs ... remember all the old mod 5 dungeons? Yea ... they are still not all back yet ..

SH PvP certainly does need some love though as right now the rewards for it (Banners) are pretty much useless ... not to mention the annoyance of companion bonuses in this mode. Again ... don't ask for removal of content, ask for it to be fixed.
darktime1989 said:

6- New "Combat league" just for Dominion Solo or Duo (as classic event)?
This I wholeheartedly support - bring back the Neverwinter Champions League in the solo or due queue format! No premades ... but we also really need either a fixed ELO for this or we need these queues to be based on item level.

3- It is for Pugs, and just with all new others points !
4- New scenary, i think is good and all people will like it!
5- I know, i like GG and Stronghold, but weithout sense they are empty! I suggest new modality for Dominion (for now)

darktime1989 · February 2017

xsayajinx1 said:
Neverwinter Combat League for solo & duo queue only??

I strongly disagree - solo & duo queue should have no rewards at all in a NCL event... It will be the 4k players who rule over the average 2-3.5k joe and go easy mode for some good rewards.

Only 5v5 (competitive) PvP should hand out rewards in a NCL event where you play Domination like it was intended with your team, communication & tactic.

Edit: Though for the sake of a happening N CL I could agree to make two seperate Leaderboards - solo queue & regular 5v5 queue.

Solo queue has no "final reward" (reward for the best players at the end of NCL - last time: Armored Champions Bulette) and is there for the sole purpose to farm some NCL tokens for the event store.

I think it is right just for Duo or only, because the premade can give the match! Infact they will go togheter and win (or loose) without fight! (so will take gift in few time!)

crowdsourced · February 2017

darktime1989 said:

3-Remove daily AD for pvp (For NO PUG), give just 60 marks for first daily win!

You need pugs in PVP or else there would only be 1-2 instances of domination running. A better suggestion would be to implement gear normalization and also match-make according to gear

darktime1989 · February 2017

crowdsourced#3904 said:

darktime1989 said:

3-Remove daily AD for pvp (For NO PUG), give just 60 marks for first daily win!
You need pugs in PVP or else there would only be 1-2 instances of domination running. A better suggestion would be to implement gear normalization and also match-make according to gear

With new Mode, No....we'll be just players (not so pug for daily), but become pvp players too^^

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elrondknight · February 2017

darktime1989 said:

crowdsourced#3904 said:

darktime1989 said:

3-Remove daily AD for pvp (For NO PUG), give just 60 marks for first daily win!
You need pugs in PVP or else there would only be 1-2 instances of domination running. A better suggestion would be to implement gear normalization and also match-make according to gear
With new Mode, No....we'll be just players (not so pug for daily), but become pvp players too^^

The point that crowd was trying to make is that without the pugs playing PvP for dailies, there would be no PvP. If they take the AD away, the pugs have no reason to come at all. Why should anyone come get stomped for 10 - 15 mins, for free?

darktime1989 · February 2017

elrondknight said:

darktime1989 said:

crowdsourced#3904 said:

darktime1989 said:

3-Remove daily AD for pvp (For NO PUG), give just 60 marks for first daily win!
You need pugs in PVP or else there would only be 1-2 instances of domination running. A better suggestion would be to implement gear normalization and also match-make according to gear
With new Mode, No....we'll be just players (not so pug for daily), but become pvp players too^^

The point that crowd was trying to make is that without the pugs playing PvP for dailies, there would be no PvP. If they take the AD away, the pugs have no reason to come at all. Why should anyone come get stomped for 10 - 15 mins, for free?

The goal is not the 8k ad per day, but the new ranking (with awards) and new combat league with gift. The pugs will not exist, because they will become good pvp players!
Read again all points of my project, they will not come gratis!

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elrondknight · February 2017

darktime1989 said:

elrondknight said:

darktime1989 said:

crowdsourced#3904 said:

darktime1989 said:

3-Remove daily AD for pvp (For NO PUG), give just 60 marks for first daily win!
You need pugs in PVP or else there would only be 1-2 instances of domination running. A better suggestion would be to implement gear normalization and also match-make according to gear
With new Mode, No....we'll be just players (not so pug for daily), but become pvp players too^^

The point that crowd was trying to make is that without the pugs playing PvP for dailies, there would be no PvP. If they take the AD away, the pugs have no reason to come at all. Why should anyone come get stomped for 10 - 15 mins, for free?
The goal is not the 8k ad per day, but the new ranking (with awards) and new combat league with gift. The pugs will not exist, because they will become good pvp players!
Read again all points of my project, they will not come gratis!

You're wrong. The goal IS 8k AD per day. The goal of PvP is not to win every match, but to be competitive. For new players, players that have NOT run all the boon structures, that have not spent hours per day for months grinding glory, or upgrading a guild SH, or spent more hours per day studying the AH to learn how to buy what, when & for how much profit, for players that missed out on leadership armies, and glitched astral resonators, and for players that don't have hours per day to grind away, because work/school/family/friends all require some attention... competing is impossible. The options are, don't PvP, or buy your way up. the easiest PvP gear to get is the warborn set. It can be bought with AD, trade bars, and zen. How do you get tradebars? You buy keys. With Zen. How do you get Zen? You farm AD & convert it on the Zen/AD exchange. So yeah, AD is the point. Because each key costs 125 zen. Each Zen costs 500 AD. But, yeah, go ahead & take the AD out of PvP. But if you do... who will the bother to show up?

darktime1989 · February 2017

defiantone99 said:
This just rewards all of the players who already have everything. You know the premaders just sync queued for solo and duo, or would kick everybody til they got a full BIS team, right?

Dominion for all (as now).
One or duo without premade.

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darktime1989 · February 2017

elrondknight said:

darktime1989 said:

elrondknight said:

darktime1989 said:

crowdsourced#3904 said:

darktime1989 said:

3-Remove daily AD for pvp (For NO PUG), give just 60 marks for first daily win!
You need pugs in PVP or else there would only be 1-2 instances of domination running. A better suggestion would be to implement gear normalization and also match-make according to gear
With new Mode, No....we'll be just players (not so pug for daily), but become pvp players too^^

The point that crowd was trying to make is that without the pugs playing PvP for dailies, there would be no PvP. If they take the AD away, the pugs have no reason to come at all. Why should anyone come get stomped for 10 - 15 mins, for free?
The goal is not the 8k ad per day, but the new ranking (with awards) and new combat league with gift. The pugs will not exist, because they will become good pvp players!
Read again all points of my project, they will not come gratis!
You're wrong. The goal IS 8k AD per day. The goal of PvP is not to win every match, but to be competitive. For new players, players that have NOT run all the boon structures, that have not spent hours per day for months grinding glory, or upgrading a guild SH, or spent more hours per day studying the AH to learn how to buy what, when & for how much profit, for players that missed out on leadership armies, and glitched astral resonators, and for players that don't have hours per day to grind away, because work/school/family/friends all require some attention... competing is impossible. The options are, don't PvP, or buy your way up. the easiest PvP gear to get is the warborn set. It can be bought with AD, trade bars, and zen. How do you get tradebars? You buy keys. With Zen. How do you get Zen? You farm AD & convert it on the Zen/AD exchange. So yeah, AD is the point. Because each key costs 125 zen. Each Zen costs 500 AD. But, yeah, go ahead & take the AD out of PvP. But if you do... who will the bother to show up?

You wrong too.
AD per day is for pugs, stop. Now for pvp you have armor in shop (good equip), or perfect armor with glory , if you are weak, you can make glory with Dominion one or duo (because you wont see premade). The award will be better then 8k ad !!!! So the new ranking will be different now, but better with good awards every weak (now no sense this ranking). The League will be as now but just for Duo or solo players, so everyone (with just 2k of glory) will play with a real goal (awards with league money as now).
Do you prefear today without sense? Now you have just 2-3 premade, some good players and some pugs, all without goal! PVP will die if we wont change! The better change is in this post in my opinion! After the Cryptic will work better my ideas!
The PVP is not for pugs want 8k every day, because ppl kick them, for that kind of AD there are DGs!
I want a new PVP with very good ranking goal and a lot of awards, the ppl will come in and enjoy the new sistem, a lot of PVE will come and buy new equipment for it and a lot of new ppl (like PVP) will start to play Neverwinter!

darktime1989 · February 2017

PS New ppl will work for have good pg and after 70 can start with Dominion solo or duo! The team will be belanced (for possible)!
I don't see your problem guys, i'm thinking you preafer this S*** sistem of PVP.

kingdomcoming · February 2017

This wouldn't work. Maybe 3 years ago. There aren't enough players in the game and now you want to segregate it further? You should do a better job replying to the arguments posted here.

darktime1989 · March 2017

kingdomcoming#9367 said:
This wouldn't work. Maybe 3 years ago. There aren't enough players in the game and now you want to segregate it further? You should do a better job replying to the arguments posted here.

There aren't players...yes, because all ppl prefear play LOL because this game has not a adeguate PVP! With a good Pvp News it will work again!

I think for are good 2 points!
-1 league every 2Months for 3 weeks
-New ranking calculator
-2 new maps in dominion (good also 2 old maps).

PVP players will not join in for its brokem modality, with a good news we will the best! You have not to judge now the game without a good PVP (normally players leave the game!)
have confidence community pls, follow my suggest! Make Neverwinter Great again!^^

darktime1989 · March 2017

This solution is the only one good and real for good game!

overdriver13 · March 2017

The only saving of PvP is a true commitment by PW to rebuilding the PvP community. They really need to just pull PvP from the game altogether, work on a PvP focused mod and not release it until the devs are confident they are putting out a product they are proud to put on their resume. They can take some schooling from ESO, and come back and put out something that is not offensive to the players. Cause in its current state, nwo PvP is so broken that anyone involved in the project has to be embarrassed to have their name next to it.

New PVP Modality!

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