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jaolez#7794 jaolez Member Posts: 27 Arc User
edited March 2017 in PvE Discussion
Hi all

I'm a new 70 and would like to have a go at the harder dungeons. I've got quite a gear score gap though (think i'm about 2k and although the likes of Castle Never say 2k is ok, I struggled a bit in there)
I have mostly 'blues' and was wondering how people gear up to purples?

From what I've seen, the 1600 dungeons drop blues so guess not that way? I've done bits of Sharandor, Spinward Rise etc and get bits from them too (though they are mostly green/blue).

So, I'm a bit confused as to how to bridge the gap. Advice hugely welcome :)
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  • pitshadepitshade Member Posts: 5,665 Arc User
    The gear that drops in the T1s is blue but not the same as what you may see as an unidentified item. It is salvageable and can be upgraded to purple using Elemental Infusion (do not do this however!) You van get it as a random drop but you can also purchase it from the seal vendor on PE. It is a good starting gear as Element seals can be farmed in easier dungeons and demonic HEs. You should check out the seal vendor ro see if it will be an upgrade for what you have now.

    To start moving into purple gear without farming t2s, you have a few decent options. Easiest, though grindy, is to farm demonic HEs to get demonic ichor and buy drowcraft armor. The weekly cap got removed some time ago, so you can grind as much as you like. Try to pay attention to the daily Ichor Bonus chest shown in the campaign window. to maximize your gain.

    Apart from Drowcraft the other choices would be Dusk and Frostborn, both of which are bought with tradebars. Farming this sadly means opening lockboxes so unless you've already got VIP, it might not be an option.

    However, you can go a long way in improving your gear by upgrading enchantments and artifacts. You have access to at least 2 free artifacts, more if you have alts of at least level 60. Try and get enough resources to get a Fey Blessing and a Dragon Hoard enchant (mods 1 and 4) to increase your RP. Run 2 dungeons a day (even heroic ones) and 2 skirmishes (not the new one as the AD reward doesn't seem to be working) Master of the Hunt is easy and quick and Dread Legion is about the same. Use the AD to buy rank 7 or 8 enchants. Your IL and effectiveness should start to climb.
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  • rjc9000rjc9000 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,405 Arc User

    Hi all

    I'm a new 70 and would like to have a go at the harder dungeons. I've got quite a gear score gap though (think i'm about 2k and although the likes of Castle Never say 2k is ok, I struggled a bit in there)
    I have mostly 'blues' and was wondering how people gear up to purples?

    From what I've seen, the 1600 dungeons drop blues so guess not that way? I've done bits of Sharandor, Spinward Rise etc and get bits from them too (though they are mostly green/blue).

    So, I'm a bit confused as to how to bridge the gap. Advice hugely welcome :)

    Are you running around in the random +5/6 (x) level 70 gear? (ex: +5 Plate Armor of Piercing).

    If you are, I'd suggest doing Malabog's Castle. While it's a level 68 dungeon, it gives you Alliance gear which is good for breaking into dungeons. Alliance gear drops from Tier1 dungeons like Malabog's, Lostmauth, or Valindra's Tower.

    If CN is "okay", you can try Epic Temple of the Spider (EToS), which is the easiest of the Tier2 dungeons. It drops Elemental Alliance Armor (slightly more powerful Alliance Armor, with a small boost in stats). EToS drops Protectors Seals, which allow you to buy some Elven Armor.

    If you don't feel like running content for (some) of your gear, you can buy Dusk Armor in the tradebar store, which is good and holds up in endgame (avoid Frostborn, it's just awful). You can also buy R7 enchants off the tradebar store, although they're much cheaper off the Auction House.

    If you have some progress in the Underdark campaign and don't need your Demonic Ichor, you can buy Drowcraft Armor from the Underdark store, which might have decent stats depending on your class.

    If you're in a guild, you can consider getting some Guild Armor for guildmarks, armor which was designed for newbies to break into dungeon content.

    If your guild does Dragonflight often, you get seals of the elements, which can be used to purchase Alliance armor from the Seals Vendor in Protector's enclave. From doing Dragonflight, you get Dragonflight fangs, which, when combined with guildmarks, Protectors Seals, and a R4 Market, allows you to buy Dragonflight Armor.

    If you're looking for an artifact weapon, I reccomend you look at the Drowned Set or Burning sets. You can buy it off the Auction House for around 200k-300k, which is quite cheap. It is easy to use, easy to upgrade, and can hold up all the way up to endgame.

    If you're looking at rings. you can buy the +3 (x) varieties off the AH. Some examples include Rising Precision, Rising Power, or Brutality. They are decent starter options, but you can get their more powerful versions off Normal Demogorgon, Prophecy of Madness, and Throne of the Dwarven gods. The more powerful versions are the varieties which have two slots and they have the prefix +4 (or +5, if you're lucky).

    If you're looking at a Bonding pet, I'd suggest a Con Artist. Easy to find, slots are cheap, and holds up in endgame with a bit of investment. Bonding runestones are cheap on PC because of the winterfestival, but I have no clue what platform you're on, so...

    CN for most teams is probably a 2.3-2.7k dungeon that was misnamed. There HAVE been groups which have done CN at 2k (R5-R7s, Lesser/Normal enchants, augments, alliance/elven gear, etc.), but they had a lot more coordination than most teams.

    (lol was writing this, didn't see Pit's response.)

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  • mebengalsfan#9264 mebengalsfan Member Posts: 3,169 Arc User
    AD: Astral Diamond
    AH: Auction House
    PoM: Prophecy of Madness
    Demo: N = Normal Demo and M = Master
    T1 = 1600 IL
    T2 = 2000 IL


    I recommend running the PoM to get the Ring of Rising Precision +4 or +5. That will help you out a bit. If you can get into nDemo, run that to get the Ring of Brutality or Ring of Rising power, again +4 or +5 are the ones you want.

    Next up, farm for AD and buy in the AH the artifacts you need for you character, level those up to epic at minimum than save your refinement until Double Refinement to get them to Legendary.

    Gear: Use the AH to buy dusk boots and if you are a member, use the bars to buy another piece of dusk gear, I recommend the hands as you can get 150 chest and 150 pieces running T1 and T2 dungeons. It all depends on your build, so look in the collection area and find out which 150 pieces will help you with your build than start running content until you get the piece of gear you need.

    Use the AH and buy Rank 7 or 8 enchantments. Rank 7 run around 2-5K in AD and R8 run around 20-50K in AD. Rank 9 go for around 200K AD, so I don't recommend those for new players.

    As for your weapons, you can by Burning, Drowning, Earth an Wind sets from the AH for around 225K in AD for both main and off hand. I recommend going that path as it will help improve your character IL until you can get into the Sea of Moving Ice to get the new Relic Weapons.

    Artifact Neck and Waist: find out what stats you need or artifact set you want and use the AH to buy it.
  • jaolez#7794 jaolez Member Posts: 27 Arc User
    thanks all! This is spot on what I needed. Much appreciated
  • xinexixxinexix Member Posts: 248 Arc User
    My biggest recommendation would be to get vip. Hands down the best investment I've made into this game. I'd also suggest joining a strong guild/alliance as you will be able to get into higher level dungeons with more success. If you're on ps4 send me an in game mail (nex@nexiga). Since you're over 2k item level my guild would love to have you. Plus we're in a top tier alliance that runs absolutely everything several times a day. At the very least you can get full df in a few days.

  • asterotgasterotg Member Posts: 1,742 Arc User
    Imo you should NOT go for the drowned set, if you are not a PvP players. Sure, it gives heal, but it does not boost your dps, AP gain or anything needed in the long run. Even for a tank everything else is better, bc the healing is insignificant in relation to your selfheal and the dmg taken.

    Drowned set is a pure PvP weapon, imo.
    Chars: CW, DC, GF, GWF, HR and TR.
  • jaolez#7794 jaolez Member Posts: 27 Arc User
    while I think, quick question on refinement - If I change my artifact weapon at whatever point down the line, do I literally start from green in terms of item quality, or do I have the option of using my former artifact weapon to transfer all refinement over by using it in the refining process?
  • santralafaxsantralafax Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,896 Arc User
    You can refine your existing weapon into the new one, and keep most of the existing RP.
  • jaolez#7794 jaolez Member Posts: 27 Arc User
    ahh that's good then!
    cheers
  • pitshadepitshade Member Posts: 5,665 Arc User
    If you have completed Spinward Rise and have the Elemntal Fire weapons, my advise is to upgrade to epic to increase your damage but don't go to Legendary. Rare (blue) to Epic (purple) uses easy ro acquire Blue marks. Going to Legendary uses the much more expensive Purple marks. I have used epic EF weapons against Level 73 mobs and while it isn't optimal, you can complete your dailies in the more difficult zones. Better to go with 'good enough' and save your resources for better weapons.
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  • mebengalsfan#9264 mebengalsfan Member Posts: 3,169 Arc User
    asterotg said:

    Imo you should NOT go for the drowned set, if you are not a PvP players. Sure, it gives heal, but it does not boost your dps, AP gain or anything needed in the long run. Even for a tank everything else is better, bc the healing is insignificant in relation to your selfheal and the dmg taken.

    Drowned set is a pure PvP weapon, imo.

    I disagree for tanks. The drowned set has saved me many times over as a tank. As for a DPS or Buffers the burning set is the best IMO out of the elemental weapon set. If I had to pick I would say go run MDemo until you get a twisted set for a DPS. Otherwise burning until you can get the twisted.

    If he has time and can survive in the sea of moving ice he can go get the manseeker weapon and off hand as those are current BiS for almost all roles.

  • jaolez#7794 jaolez Member Posts: 27 Arc User
    edited March 2017
    I'm a DC with a current gear score of 2.3k (gone up a bit due to the awesome advice above!) Would I be able to try the sea of moving ice on that or should I grind Demo etc a bit longer? How do I start this, through Icewind Dale?
  • pitshadepitshade Member Posts: 5,665 Arc User
    A lot depends on whether you have guild boons, mount equip bonus & insignia, etc... And also how much aggravation you are willing to put up with. At that IL and as a DC, you're going to have some issues dealing damage fast enough and you would almost certainly need to keep Astral Shield on your bar. A solid summoned per is going to be a must - not for bondings but to keep you alive. Either a defender or healer though if you don't mind dropping some money on Guardian pack, the Vicious Dire Wolf is a striker that might as well be a defender/controller. If you can find someone to run with regularly, you'll do fine. Otherwise just expect to die from time to time.

    My DC was 2700 when she started but I also have a lot of boons and other bonuses. TR and SW were around 2500 of under and have had it a bit rougher, especially since I was using augments rather than summoned pets.

    Unless you are really determined or can find a partner, I would finish the easier mods Sharandar and Dread Ring and start the older Icewind Dale content before moving to SoMI. Icewind Pass and Dwarven Valley are also level73 mobs but they don't hit as hard due to special (cheese) damage having been removed.
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  • nameexpirednameexpired Member Posts: 1,282 Arc User
    edited March 2017
    I recommend to start the Underdark and Maze Engine campaign ASAP if you have not done this yet.
    They take a lot of days to complete and are not too difficult IMO.
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  • asterotgasterotg Member Posts: 1,742 Arc User

    asterotg said:

    Imo you should NOT go for the drowned set, if you are not a PvP players. Sure, it gives heal, but it does not boost your dps, AP gain or anything needed in the long run. Even for a tank everything else is better, bc the healing is insignificant in relation to your selfheal and the dmg taken.

    Drowned set is a pure PvP weapon, imo.

    I disagree for tanks. The drowned set has saved me many times over as a tank. As for a DPS or Buffers the burning set is the best IMO out of the elemental weapon set. If I had to pick I would say go run MDemo until you get a twisted set for a DPS. Otherwise burning until you can get the twisted.

    If he has time and can survive in the sea of moving ice he can go get the manseeker weapon and off hand as those are current BiS for almost all roles.

    As I said, in the long run. My GF has an IL of 3.5, decent, but no way near BIS and he is either dead or has full HP. With steel defense and high AP gain, you can block or be dmg immune. HP will be refilled by fighters recovery.

    I die fighting Orcus, if the boss fight takes 20 minutes and I HAMSTER up my rotation, lag or with HR and AA DC blocking dmg, so I dont gain AP, but I lose block.


    Chars: CW, DC, GF, GWF, HR and TR.
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