Elemental Evil Artifact quests redundant now?

yiazzy · January 2017

You know the ones, "Weapons of Earth" etc.

Well, after getting my Weaponsmithing to 25 yesterday, I saw a load of the Burning/Earthen/Drowned/Howling artifact Main Hands and Off Hands available to make, for a very minimal cost in fact.
I'm assuming that Shields, and gear for Clerics, Wizards and Warlocks will be those new tasks added to Artificing at Rank 25 mentioned in the notes.

No more farming motes! Rejoice!

rjc9000 · January 2017

yiazzy said:
You know the ones, "Weapons of Earth" etc.

Well, after getting my Weaponsmithing to 25 yesterday, I saw a load of the Burning/Earthen/Drowned/Howling artifact Main Hands and Off Hands available to make, for a very minimal cost in fact.

I'm assuming that Shields, and gear for Clerics, Wizards and Warlocks will be those new tasks added to Artificing at Rank 25 mentioned in the notes.

No more farming motes! Rejoice!

Yep, you can make the Howling/Drowned/Burning/Earthen weapons out of Artificing or Weaponsmithing, depending on the task.

Grinding is not needed.

mordekai · January 2017

It's obviously to address the issue of lower level zones being full of high level players dominating the HEs.
I've got them running cos I still farm the campaign as its the only route I have for Conquerors Shards for the Guild, but 3 HEs a day in each zone isnt getting too much in the way.

ETA its also a way to make them more accessible than simply sticking them in the Trade Bar Legacy section.

Of course, the number of elements you need to make them is more than you would get from 100 HEs on a wand, so it will likely see more farming...

armadeonx · January 2017

mordekai#1901 said:

Of course, the number of elements you need to make them is more than you would get from 100 HEs on a wand, so it will likely see more farming...

lol very true, 100 elements. I had a look and I'm seeing some on the AH, usually for around 170-200k. (per piece...)

mordekai · January 2017

I think its the ideal opportunity to rejig Skirmishes.
Build a new Skirmish for each of the EE zones.
Call them, ooh, I don't know... The TEMPLE of Elemental Evil...
Award Profession Elements as part of the loot based on BSG success, and rework motes so they are easier to get and tradeable in the zone for Elemental Keys. (Because of the increased drop rate they would also need to īncrease the required number for the quest line by the same factor.)
In the chests are whatever the devs think appropriate along with more Elements.

If you want to build a weapon set from scratch, which I assume is the idea, you need a total of...
179 of the relevant Element, and 54 each of the other three...

So it's either the Devils own grind, or the sort of AD players looking for those sets dont really have.
So once again, its a marketplace for higher level players to make money flogging Unified Elements (which are currently cheaper than the component Elemental Aggregates.)

yiazzy · January 2017

What are you on about, 100 elements? Takes 2 for Main Hand and 1 for Off Hand. 3 Elements for a set isn't anywhere near 100 lol

mordekai · January 2017

Jeezus Tapdancing Christ...
Again with the try to understand before talking rubbish.
It only takes a moments thought to realise I'm talking about BASE elements.
Elemental Fire
Elemental Water
Elemental Earth
and Elemental Air

I was out by 6. I'm sorry... 48 not 54

If you want to BUILD FROM SCRATCH you will need
Each UNIFIED Element requires... 4 Elemental Aggregate.
Each Elemental Aggregate requires... 4 of each base Elements
16 of each base element for 1 Unified.
16 multiplied by 3 equals..... 48

Add to that the 125 of one specific element and it adds up to the numbers I gave before.

The clue was when I referred to the relevant elements and the other three...

Do you see now, or has fishing addled your brain?

mordekai · January 2017

My maths was off by 6 so instead of needing 341 you need 317.

Still a hellish grind.

fearhodorwillie · January 2017

If your leadership is rank 25, one of the profession tasks give 2 enchanted coffers (I think it's called Battle Elemental Cultists). There is a chance to get base elementals when opening them. I've been doing that task for a few months now on 5 toons, and I have between 170-300 of each of the base elements.

yiazzy · January 2017

Because in all the adventures through the game, players haven't picked up a single one of these at any given moment. Based upon that (highly unlikely) situation, then fair enough.

And if you say elements, I'm going to say Unified Elements as it's in the name. The others are called "Elemental" however, so you'll have to forgive me for not understanding your vague references to other sodding things.
Do me a favour, and just don't reply to anything I write, your ignorance, arrogance, and sheer incompetence grinds on me. Shame i can't block people on here, would of made my life easier DAYS AGO.

dunaught · January 2017

fearhodorwillie#7723 said:
If your leadership is rank 25, one of the profession tasks give 2 enchanted coffers (I think it's called Battle Elemental Cultists). There is a chance to get base elementals when opening them. I've been doing that task for a few months now on 5 toons, and I have between 170-300 of each of the base elements.

I guess that is where my stock piles came from. I have consolidated them on one toon now and have started making elemental aggregates which I am going to be using to make Unified Elements. I thought that Elemental Aggregates would be limited to 3x like most production tasks, but I guess not. Now I have to go buy 24 more GrandMaster Alchemist(s) So I can speed produce 9 at a time.

I made a Burning set for my DC and I made a Drowned set for my GF. I am done making Elemental Artifact Weapons. Got my Twisted on my HR and am 4 gold wins away from Twisted set on my OP.

mordekai · January 2017

fearhodorwillie#7723 said:
If your leadership is rank 25, one of the profession tasks give 2 enchanted coffers (I think it's called Battle Elemental Cultists). There is a chance to get base elementals when opening them. I've been doing that task for a few months now on 5 toons, and I have between 170-300 of each of the base elements.

Fair enough but I had Elemental Gear on my first 4 toons before I got near L25 Leadership on the first.
Raising Leadership to 25 to avoid grinding is a bit of a laugh.

I can easily imagine someone focussing on Artificing or Weapon smithing to get the Elemental set... but Leadership?

yiazzy said:
Because in all the adventures through the game, players haven't picked up a single one of these at any given moment. Based upon that (highly unlikely) situation, then fair enough.

And if you say elements, I'm going to say Unified Elements as it's in the name. The others are called "Elemental" however, so you'll have to forgive me for not understanding your vague references to other sodding things.

The distinction should have been obvious since I subsequently referred to Unified and Aggregate by name.
But hey... why let common sense get in the way of having a snidey dig eh?

fearhodorwillie · January 2017

I did the leadership grind to be able to make the thaumaturgic bags and the resonance bags. The enchanted coffer task is just an added bonus. You're right it's kind of like trading on grind for another.

armadeonx · January 2017

yiazzy said:
What are you on about, 100 elements? Takes 2 for Main Hand and 1 for Off Hand. 3 Elements for a set isn't anywhere near 100 lol

What? no lol not unified elements, elemental water/fire etc. Their cost is probably about to jump but currently they'd cost 100-500 ad each. If they go to 1k you're looking at 100k for the set plus the unified elements which'll probably also go up

mordekai · January 2017

Cheapest Fire were over 800 yesterday.

armadeonx · January 2017

and rising no doubt - lol

mordekai · January 2017

Actually no. cheapest are about 500, (or were a short while back).
I imagine the usual AH shuffle is going on, and people who have lots of elements but aren't interested in using them now see a market for them, and rather than slowly releasing them are dumping for a quick sale and the price war has begun.
Which is great, cos every now and then my Aggregate making character doesn't have enough of a particular element, and it will end up being cheaper for my factory line production of Unifieds.
Unifieds have risen slightly. Cheapest yesterday were just over 20k... (much cheaper than 4 Aggregates) now they're back up to around 30 though there are a couple of bulk deals that work out at 25k per.

Aggregates are still floating at circa 6k each.

mordekai · January 2017

I've got a tertiary character still doing Elemental Evil, and last night noticed quite a lot more people in the Fiery Pit than I normally see when I'm farming HEs for "Resist The Cults".

Elemental Evil Artifact quests redundant now?

Comments