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Where is the benefit of being temporarily raised up to level 70 (from level 61) to do a certain ques
mewzical
Member Posts: 6 Arc User
Where is the benefit of being temporarily raised up to level 70 (from level 61) to do a certain quest? It might make sense IF the character's skill level was also raised up to level 70. But how do you expect a character that is normally level 61 to defeat a gang of level 70 mobs? Even with a ton of potions and using every skill available to me at level 61, I have been unable to defeat a gang of level 70 mobs. I just don't see how it can be soloed. So why even set up the quest in this manner?
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oldbaldyone
Member Posts: 1,840 Arc User
What quest are you talking about? Sometimes you may just have to get a group...
The level up and down process is extremely flawed....though I'll admit I can't really suggest how they could do it better. You'll either get destroyed (if leveled up), or you'll be superman (if leveled down).5 -
mossy
Member Posts: 121 Arc User
Find a weapon that scales with your level & those temporary boosts during CTA's etc & you'll actually be able to do some damage.
Beyond that it (the level bump) increases your durability to take hits somewhat when fighting way above your "natural weight class" so to speak by way of increased hit points5 -
dupeks
Member Posts: 1,789 Arc User
Shot in the dark: are you talking about the Harper daily lair quest for the Tyranny of Dragons campaign? Stuff like Ghost Stories, Barrow Demolition, Forged in Fire, or Ancient Treasures?
If so, yeah those are tough. And they become available sooner than a <lvl 70 would be able to handily solo them without fancy gear or fully-leveled friends.
The scaling doesn't help, and I think it more an artifact of how the game engine is constructed rather than actually providing meaningful benefits.
The only advice I would have is that it's relatively easy to find a group to run with, which makes the quests faster anyway.5 -
mewzical
Member Posts: 6 Arc User
From other sources I've learned that this quest (Vault of Nine) was altered recently. It originally was a level 62 quest. Why on earth did the game let a level 61 even receive this quest? There are so many facets of this game that leave me boggled and this is one. Every other game I've ever played, and I've been gaming for over 55 years, when the game gives you a temporary level increase, it also gives you something to go with it - i.e. your skill damage is increased - so you aren't out there shooting with a water pistol when a machine gun would be more effective.
As for obtaining a weapon that scales with my level or better armor -- it all costs zen and at this time, I'm unable to put any cash into the game. So my only solution is to put this quest on my "one of these days in the distant future" list unless I can get some help from guildies.
Thanks for your comments. I'll just post this questions as being "answered" altho there really is not "answer" per se.5 -
btairborne
Member Posts: 352 Arc User
Think of it as a Level 70 quest with the option of completing at level 60 with a group. Depending on your skill level, gear and boons it is soloable at 60 onward. Just because you failed doesn't mean everyone will. Just ask for help.. Everything that is possibly a little difficult the first time around doesn't need to be changed. It just means wait until stronger or ask for help. The solo game is easy enough.
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pitshade
Member Posts: 5,665 Arc User
Vault of the Nine dates back to Mod 3 when the level cap was 60. It required that the character be able to access Caer Konig (level 60 and either 2 or 3 boons each from Sharandar/Dread Ring) When the level cap was raised to 70, they must have thought it unfair to make it off limits to new accounts at level 60, when old accounts had already done it. Regardless, the quest giver was added to Protector's Enclave and the level kept at 60. I have no idea why they then decided to make it scale up to 70 at this point. Presumably, they didn't grasp how poor the scaling is? Regardless, the quest was designed for max level chars who probably had good gear and some experience. Now it is being offered to leveling characters who probably don't have anywhere close to the kind of gear/power that it was designed for.
Anyway, you're better off either waiting until you get to 70 and run it, or else ask for help from a friend or guildie. Asking in Zone in PE might get you a partner, as there are likely to be those who are putting the quest off."We have always been at war with Dread Vault" ~ Little Brother5 -
dupeks
Member Posts: 1,789 Arc User
Asking in Zone in PE is pretty good way to go. I routinely help folks out when I see someone asking, and usually within seconds there are others as who join as well (although you only need 1 mid-geared lvl 70 char to carry).pitshade said:Vault of the Nine dates back to Mod 3 when the level cap was 60. It required that the character be able to access Caer Konig (level 60 and either 2 or 3 boons each from Sharandar/Dread Ring) When the level cap was raised to 70, they must have thought it unfair to make it off limits to new accounts at level 60, when old accounts had already done it. Regardless, the quest giver was added to Protector's Enclave and the level kept at 60. I have no idea why they then decided to make it scale up to 70 at this point. Presumably, they didn't grasp how poor the scaling is? Regardless, the quest was designed for max level chars who probably had good gear and some experience. Now it is being offered to leveling characters who probably don't have anywhere close to the kind of gear/power that it was designed for.
Anyway, you're better off either waiting until you get to 70 and run it, or else ask for help from a friend or guildie. Asking in Zone in PE might get you a partner, as there are likely to be those who are putting the quest off.
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