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abaddon
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i played years ago was a avid pvper and did it well. when i left i deleted my gear and said i wouldnt come back. so i made a new account figure i prob should start over instead of being gearless and almost broke. back when i left there was a growing concern of pay2win is this a thing now? super expensive amazing stats that are almost impossible to earn in game unless you pay up? and is the warrior class finally in a good position in pvp? back when i played it took a lot of skill and was considered weak at that time if i did use my old account how would i go about getting gear? guess i should mention last time i played was mod 3.
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if you don't pay you'll be grinding for months just to be on par with the bottom tier people if you pvp , as people have said don't bother til at least 3000-4000 ilvl with most maxed out boons unless you want to spend your time as fodder for so called pro's who only target lesser geared people like me, i last night was pvping at 1958 ilvl lol i was targeted by 2 rouges who after killing every lowby they came across stated YOU SUCK but then ran away like little girls if they came across someone of equal gear, the person of equal gear kept saying come fight me then both of you and they kept sla.ggaing him off
I also see players advocating against solo queue and then spawncamping with their PvP guild premade.
How cute.
And no, the game is not fair for many reasons. One reason is that some players like it that way as long as they can say "it's not my fault" and keep pugstomping/ spawncamping with their premade friends.
quotes please who said this ? lol that actually matters and factors into the points you are trying to make ??
: do not care about K/D ratio but just fun : who exactly is saying this ...and then saying that they are not / doing the opposite ?? where can i find this information in the forums ??
I did a quick forums search I cant seem to find many players saying that expect 1 or 2 recently and they are not in a top pvp guilds be very careful about generalising so who and where are these phantom players of yours that you created ? shame on you how do you know their Ilevel ?it does not say it on the forums lol ??
so the player should just let himself die to a 2.6 k scrub and not use his artifact lol
so you should not be in a guild and run with your friends ?
so you should not strategically withdraw from an over whelmed point / bad match up ? and just except the death
the biggest threat to pvp is hypocrisy then right ?? lol
you can always find a player / guild that will be the exception or not to any rule you may find / create / generalise
good job at trying to sensationalise your post might want to try with facts next time lol
you are just salty ...
To be clear, i actually enjoy fighting more geared enemies on my alt, it's a good training. And the BiS guy is however also very skilled.
This said...It's just sad when you go fight on the node a big bad BiS toon and obviously die, and then see the guy running away like road runner when it's his turn to get killed...
PvP can be unfair, but this does not mean players can act like D-bags and spawncamp/ bully the enemies. Expecially if they say they "care about balance". It's called fair play. My team won but we were not there spawncamping the enemies.
Obviously it's their "right" to run away when they lose or spawncamp when they win. It's just not a very good way to create a healthy PvP environment.
To be honest, i'm pretty sure that even if gear gap is removed and the game becomes more fair, not much will change. You'll still have certain ehm..."PvP teams", spawncamping the enemies. Because there's more than gear difference between a trained and experienced PvPer, and a normal player. It's even more clear to me playing on my low gear toon. So you must try to mix them up as much as you can and avoid situations where experienced and seasoned PvPers gang up against teams of normal players.
You can't just blame the "pugs" for not being as trained, or for not using the best build. The duty of the game is to balance a match. Make a match fair.
ELO, in fact, is not based on gear but on performance, to keep into account skill and experience. The BiS player in my example is very skilled. Other players of same iLvL and class i came across are much easier to handle, instead.
You must allow a proper matchmaking to balance teams at the start. To have a fair PvP you need all: matchmaking to mix players and balance teams, gear gap removed, and class balance.
Miss even 1 of these elements and you will still end up with poor matches and spawncamping bullies.
I think at some point in the past i suggested a "scramble" system based on performance, similar to team fortress 2. When a match is unbalanced, teams get scrambled midway and rebalanced to allow a fair fight. It would be interesting.
He could also fight with his team mates and take down the strongest players of your team. For example, one-rotating the CW before he could kill his team mates.
But you can't expect players who care only about kills, or players who stomp/ spawncamp, to understand this. They only know how to curse their team mates if they are not as strong as they need them to be, focus less geared/ weaker enemies and run from nodes as soon as they might get killed once.
It's also the typical geared player you might meet in a pugstomping premade.
They blame matchmaking, undergeared players, unexperienced players and gear gap, while it's also a L2P issue on their side.
They think that a MMO is to either play alone and stomp the weaker players, or gang up with their elite friends to "win".
It's their way to have "fun", so you can't expect them to understand people who just care about fun fights, fair play and teamplay.
They are too smart for that. XD
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