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neonblack
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Hey guys/gals NeonBlack/ToeTagz here, I have been following the likes of some of the top sw, more specifically build discussions. I guess my question would be, have we actually found the best dps spec? and if so what is it. I see a lot of you top guys here that actually run stats that say sb and hb are fairly close dps? I currently play hb fury similar to Fenruu build with a few diffs. Currently 3k on PS4. I'm kind of wondering if you pc guys could shed a little light? From what I understand there is another BERF=buff nerf coming and I wanna know will it be worthwhile to keep investing time and money on my sw or maybe make an alt till the devs figure out what they actually want a sw to be.
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SB Fury and HB Fury are really close, yes, maybe by a 10% margin depending on the dungeon/trial and group set up (taking into account that both players are at the same level in skill and gear).
I can't tell the difference between SB Fury vs. HB Damnation, or SB Damnation vs. HB Damnation, etc. Natsu and I tested HB Damnation vs. SB Fury, he won by 20% difference, that was in FBI though, we should have tested in MSVA, but Natsu and I never ran MSVA together
We should always adapt to any nerf or fix, there will be always a way.
BTW, what nerf you talking about? Tyrannical Curse? I don't know how PS4 patches work but if it's that, you gonna have to adapt...we lost a lot of damage from TT, but we still can do pretty good
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It went from beeing the stongest class by far to a little behind gwf/cw/hr
But since you run a spec with no groupbuffs, even a GWF can be a better supporter...
Battle fury and
daring shout: mark spends combat advantage and is worth 8% bonus damage for allies.
About Hunter and CW dps specs? I can´t tell if those builds do buff the group, but I am sure CW´s got powers to buff the group combined with pretty good dps by desintegrate.
There is a buff/dps build out there which performs good.
Sure , you can slot DT and run a build using dark revelry. But that's a discussion, wich leads towards a supporter role .
I would say , run your warlock as you want and make your own comparisons without taking the forum as the one and only reference, since that´s not what it is.
I am sure warlocks deal good dps but are not the first choice these days, and that´s what most of the player who play a warlock these days will experience, in case they run toe to toe with a spellstorm mage and a propper build destro-GWF in FBI.
PS: you can also run side by side with a TR, who knows his class, like I did lately in CN with a guy from the holy crusaders (sure a maxed char) ... 540k spike power is your measuring plate, good luck to beat that guy.
The exisiting prove for all TR´s that this class can do good ... if they knew how
U can sill still outdps 99.9% of all other endgame players.
SW is still hardest class to play. SW still depends more on gear than others. But all is about rotation, build, reading game and party.
Mod 10:
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That´s exactly the certainty calculation if you match the upper 1% of warlocks with other classes, you loose in 1% vs a top GWF with BIS setup out of 100 GWF´s (or CW´s or Hunter). Agree too, if you downgrade to 99%.
In my case it was ..let´s say >90% running a suboptimal setup, doing random runs 99% of the time.
Maybe my chance to meet better player is statistically higher than yours? How much random runs do you guys run, or do you prefer to match/run vs. the same player you allways do?
Doing so, you meet "the one player with another class" , maybe after 300 runs or more ( sometimes you will never meet him )... but if so, that´s the moment you know:
"OK, my class can´t be considered to be top dps.
In the end it´s from minor importance, if you like to play that class. I don´t like to play GWF (but I would like to try CW, if grind would be accceptable...)
And any fixing which would increase sw performance or even buffing happening only once per 4 mods.
Mod 4 where introduction and its where obvious that sw will get adjustments within next mod. So mod 5 came where sw powers got slightly adjusted. And since then no improvements toward sw have been done, untill mod 10, when @amenar indeed do try balance sw. And also we found that TT where glitched since sw release till then.
So more less I doubt that any improvements will occurs at least in next 3 mods. And in mod 15 perhaps devs will do something seriously. But in that point probably all sw's where be exterminated.
“The masses have never thirsted after truth. Whoever can supply them with illusions is easily their master; whoever attempts to destroy their illusions is always their victim.
Gustave Le Bon.
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I started playing about a year ago
And since atleast then SW was always the best dps class in the game.
Mod 10 we lost alot of dps but we where still the best dps class.
Now we are a little behind but i dont think that will kill the sw class.
i did a few CN and demo with my guild and vs everyclass between 2,8k and 3,2k, i was 1st dps with my HB fury GS 2806
(i have 11k power basically and when everything procs, i'm over 30k)
And i have soooo much room to improve ( r9 dread, r9 bondings, all others echant r7/r8.
Either i play only with noobs which i highly doubt or the warlock is still very solid compared to other dps class
i learned everything with pros here thought xD
Anyway, Love it !
On PS4
Damnation is balanced build,, perfect for players who yet don't have top end gear, and ones who prefer play solo..
However as I wrote before,, NWO community hate balanced builds,, they want top dps(glass canons) top tank, top heal.
Also guys why u all try compare to gwf?? That class is way way way overpowered. And there is no way that someone beat them in term of dps, and even if that happens, devs will make adjustments for ones who decided rival gwf.
In dev team are lot of gwf fans, and sw hatters.... Thats explain why since mod 5 sw only received adjustments(nerfs). And @amenar where only one dev who do try balance it and make it competitive, and now since he gone, cryptic back to his habits nerf sw..
“The masses have never thirsted after truth. Whoever can supply them with illusions is easily their master; whoever attempts to destroy their illusions is always their victim.
Gustave Le Bon.
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