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dillpickle#6245 dillpickle Member Posts: 16 Arc User
Hi all. I leveled a SW up to 60 and have enjoyed that playstyle. Good aoe capabilities and damage output for solo and dungeons while leveling. I stopped briefly to begin leveling a DC (currently 41). I like the idea and am getting a hang of the Divinity concept, however I don't see much of a need for healing.

Now, I understand I'm not even 70 yet and have not experienced end game content, but most of the game seems like a dps race instead of a traditional mmo group structure (i.e., required = tank + healer; with dps/buff/debuff mixed in).

So, my question is this: If I get my DC to 70, will he be used much for the healing, buffs, dps, or not much at all?

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  • putzboy78putzboy78 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,950 Arc User
    at endgame dcs are buff/debuff focused not heals
  • vordaynvordayn Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,283 Arc User
    The current end-game (CN, Demo, FBI, SVA) revolves around dps, so clerics play an effective role in parties with buffing/debuffing. However, having said that, levelling a cleric is a PITA, especially if you're not specced for dps or have an owlbear companion and lots of power. So a full buff/debuff cleric might not get through dailies as effectively as a dps specced cleric, either of which is far better than a pure healing cleric. Also, when starting out, if you PUG dungeons a lot, healing and damage mitigation might be more important to the group to prevent wipes. So at your level, the choice of cleric playstyle depends on what you or your party/group of friends need to do, and more importantly, what you enjoy.

    My experience with levelling my cleric has been starting out as a faithful clutch healer (AC faithful dipped in virtuous when gift of haste was overperforming, as Mod 6 at the time required near perfect damage mitigation or AP gain with a protector OP combined with flash healing to prevent one- or two-shotting from critters), then respeccing into a dps cleric (DO full righteous) once the armor penetration 'bug' was fixed in order to finish levelling/getting boons, and now ending up as a full buff/debuff cleric (AC righteous dipped in virtuous for gift of haste).

    Regardless of the paragon and capstone you choose, all clerics will offer benefits to a group and will be welcomed in many parties, but you need to match your playstyle to your group in order to maximise their effectiveness and have a good dungeon/skirmish run.

    Faithful is easy mode healing and very tanky, and with a weaker tank you could protect them enough to carry a PUG. It has excellent healing, and with enough HP, deflect, stamina regen, recovery and control resist, you can become near immortal in PVP. More so with an AC cleric using Anointed Army.

    Righteous is just better overall for personal dps and buffing, so doing your dailies and dungeon/skirmish runs with experienced groups becomes more efficient. AC again for the AA daily, combined with hastening light (the spell twisting for clerics) and AP gain boons/items/stats will make you a tanky, buffing beast where healing becomes secondary.

    Having said that, there is the telegraphed rework to DCs, so that might change the playing field for many of us. But the good thing about clerics are that we are adaptable, and will still be able to fulfill an effective party role, whether it is damage mitigation, buffing, debuffing or healing. You've just got to enjoy the playstyle you choose, and of course, prevent too many party wipes and make your group runs as efficient as possible.
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  • dillpickle#6245 dillpickle Member Posts: 16 Arc User
    Thanks!! Right now I'm following Jarek's AC Righteous PVE build. http://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/neverwinter#/discussion/1216742/jareks-ac-righteous-pve-mod-10-mod-10b-guide-updated-on-november-10th-2016/p1

    Maybe not the best for leveling (??) but it's not too bad. With the recent CTA, I wanted to get the Peg Leg. Ran about 40-45 CTA's at lvl 38. Although my dps was non-existent on the lvl 60 mobs, I did everything possible to heal and buff the whole time.
  • tyrtallowtyrtallow Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 747 Arc User
    edited December 2016
    In Neverwinter clerics are leaders, and a leader's job is to act as a multiplier for party effectiveness (survivability, damage output, etc). Healing/defensive buffs are only important in the sense that dead people have zero DPS, and people under extreme pressure from mobs have reduced DPS.

    Even the healing feat paths (faithful, virtuous) have feats that allow them to become powerful buff machines. Faithful builds divinity the fastest (ie, multiple empowered effects) which works well with its "automatic" healing while AC Virtuous combines massive healing, AP gain and access to both Battle Fervor and Weapons of Light.
    Righteous is unique because it's a feat path that focuses on attacking (the damage is more of a side effect). It builds AP the fastest and its attacks carry powerful debuffs.
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  • putzboy78putzboy78 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,950 Arc User

    Thanks!! Right now I'm following Jarek's AC Righteous PVE build. http://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/neverwinter#/discussion/1216742/jareks-ac-righteous-pve-mod-10-mod-10b-guide-updated-on-november-10th-2016/p1

    Maybe not the best for leveling (??) but it's not too bad. With the recent CTA, I wanted to get the Peg Leg. Ran about 40-45 CTA's at lvl 38. Although my dps was non-existent on the lvl 60 mobs, I did everything possible to heal and buff the whole time.

    The game auto lvls your for CTA, so your dps should still be respectable. Keep an eye on your resistance ignored stat and make sure its appropriate to the lvl of mobs your facing.
  • devlin#3775 devlin Member Posts: 142 Arc User
    putzboy78 said:

    Thanks!! Right now I'm following Jarek's AC Righteous PVE build. http://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/neverwinter#/discussion/1216742/jareks-ac-righteous-pve-mod-10-mod-10b-guide-updated-on-november-10th-2016/p1

    Maybe not the best for leveling (??) but it's not too bad. With the recent CTA, I wanted to get the Peg Leg. Ran about 40-45 CTA's at lvl 38. Although my dps was non-existent on the lvl 60 mobs, I did everything possible to heal and buff the whole time.

    The game auto lvls your for CTA, so your dps should still be respectable. Keep an eye on your resistance ignored stat and make sure its appropriate to the lvl of mobs your facing.
    At least on PS4, the auto leveling wasnt working. As a level 70, it said I was downgraded to 60, but it sure didnt feel like it (I could be wrong here). Regardless, the lower level people stayed at their current levels (ie. a level 20 remained a level 20 in CTA). They basically did nothing (not their fault, of course), and ran behind the higher level people. I cant imagine it was very fun for them.
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