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[PC] PvE ACDC How to proc condemned at finest?

david#2060 david Member Posts: 78 Arc User
As title says, I would like to know how you guys do to make good use of this feature.

In my DC I see it to pop but honestly, dont have the feeling to make it happens as I wish, its more a feeling that its random (although I know is not). I pay a lot of atention since when it pops, boss loses a good piece of HP (so may be it is stronger than per tooltip?-its just a guess).

I use BtS, DG and Chains/BoH . Whats the best rotation to have it proccing in a controled way?

Ty for all replies.

David

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  • putzboy78putzboy78 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,950 Arc User
    Condemning Gaze is not WAI, @michela123 explains it over on this thread pretty well but you will want to review the comments for clarity.

    arcgames.com/en/forums/neverwinter#/discussion/1219868/amber-gristle-omaul-do-righteous-build-mod-9/
  • raymond00713raymond00713 Member Posts: 312 Arc User
    @putzboy78 I read through all that about condemning gaze understand it fully. Is that still true in the current state of the game through mod 10.5?
  • david#2060 david Member Posts: 78 Arc User
    Thank you very much for the link, it is one of the best sources of info ive got for DC so far.

    Im happy at the end my intuition worked well, there is someting going on with CG and it can buff more than expected by the tooltip:



    jazzfong said:


    @michela123 , i had done a test on CG mechanic just now based on ur ACT log and my findings.

    This is the result:
    1. CG stack is applied by EVERY tick of damage from any damaging encounter.
    2. Every tick of encounter damage gives one CG stack to 25' radius of the target (or in simple words: its radius is half a dodge)
    3. Thus it is possible to apply one chains to hit 5 targets, spreading up to 5 CG stacks to all of the targets and trigger CG debuff immediately. (Which is also why i think the counter is on us and new wave of mobs can trigger CG on the next encounter hit).
    4. In conclusion, it is a good news for DG/Chains spammer, easy to trigger, even possible on the first hit. Yeah~~

    michela123 said:

    I just realized that my comment was a bit confusing, anyway I wasn't referring to the stacks required to apply the debuff, but the debuff itself overstacking. I mean, all mobs should have 15% debuff, but some mobs have 30-75% debuff, so sometimes the debuff is applied 5 times on the same mobs. This occurs when you hit the mobs in particular ways. I'll make some examples:
    - You hit 4 mobs with chains, then 5 mobs with chains
    - You hit a mob with BtS and when it has 3 stacks of condemned you hit 5 mobs with chains
    - You hit a mob 4 times with dauntling light, then you hit 5 mobs with chains

    In all these cases, you'll see some mobs debuffed for 30-45-60-75%. Instead, if you start the fight hitting 5 mobs with chains, everyone will take 5 stacks of condemned and the regular 15% debuff.




    putzboy78 said:

    sounds very challenging to manage though



    So to answer to this thread, -have you managed it up? :wink:
  • putzboy78putzboy78 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,950 Arc User

    @putzboy78 I read through all that about condemning gaze understand it fully. Is that still true in the current state of the game through mod 10.5?

    Haven't tested it, won't test it. Can't test everything after every patch and we do know they ninja stuff. Thankfully DC is often overlooked because its a small community.




    putzboy78 said:

    sounds very challenging to manage though


    So to answer to this thread, -have you managed it up? :wink:

    Honestly haven't tried, most of my game time is used to farm influence, do the new dailys, and weeklys. My main actually enters a dungeon 2-3 a week.
  • ijonumijonum Member Posts: 55 Arc User
    edited November 2016


    jazzfong said:


    @michela123 , i had done a test on CG mechanic just now based on ur ACT log and my findings.

    This is the result:
    1. CG stack is applied by EVERY tick of damage from any damaging encounter.



    Every TICK? Does it mean, that spamming divine FF would basically make a target perma-condemned + perma-bear-the-sins-ed and then you hit him with empowered BtS?
  • tattica7tattica7 Member Posts: 9 Arc User
    Divine FF is not a dot, but the logic is correct. On a single target, if you start your rotation with a dot you can reach condemned sligthly faster, but personally I don't find it convinient in my rotation.
    With multiple targets you reach condemned very fast, since you gain a stack for every mob you hit.
  • bvirabvira Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 385 Arc User
    Getting 1+ stacks of condemn by exploiting the bug is pretty difficult to do consistently because the positions of mobs vary from run to run.
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