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Make Scourge Warlock Great Again!

etelgrinetelgrin Member Posts: 1,611 Arc User
in Player Feedback (PC)
Honestly, I never played SW when it was first released, I didn't played it when Fabled Illiyanbruen set was available. I do not know Warlock golden days but I do know that what we currently have now is bu11shiet. There were many things warlock relied upon and this is good things got fixed but as it is now its overnerf instead of actual balance, now that you had fixed these things give SW a proper buffs, changes and revamps. This is looking really bad, this is character I invested the most into, have all campaigns up to date, PvP, PvE gears, companions, artifact bound to character (11 mythic artifacts including demogorgon set which I cannot move into any other toon even if I'd liked). The worst part of it, is I really like to play Warlock, now I don't know, I don't really feel like maining other class changing to other class whatsoever. Help Cryptic! Halp!

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  • schietindebuxschietindebux Member Posts: 4,292 Arc User
    Puh, glad I got that GWF i switch to, to feel usefull as a strikerclass.
    Warlock in the current setup is a joke... a bad one
  • stevedudemanstevedudeman Member Posts: 130 Arc User
    etelgrin said:

    Halp!

    Agreed...+1
  • metalraro#7399 metalraro
    metalraro#7399
         Member Posts: 38 Arc User
    edited November 2016
    Well, I do not see the future for SW, no balance happened, there was destruction of a class that disturbed the empire gwf.
    This game will never be balanced.
    There will always be a class more dps, and it will be gwf, if we want to play, we will have to get used to being support.
    Because dps we are not anymore.

  • metalraro#7399 metalraro
    metalraro#7399
         Member Posts: 38 Arc User
    Strike to buy zen
    SW DO NOT BUY ZEN
  • spideymtspideymt Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 710 Arc User
    SW is still great. Ofc this class needs a rework like they did on other classes. But i dont think SW is dead. Not at all.

  • tom#6998 tom
    tom#6998
         Member Posts: 952 Arc User
    what we need imo is a Classfeat on SW which boosts our dps by about 20-30%dps. Its kinda strange that we as striker class have only 1 offensive classfeat which is only about 2%dps increase (speaking of deadly curse). That would close the gap between SW and CW/GWF atleast in FBI which is anyway the only dungeon that really matters.
  • diogene0diogene0 Member Posts: 2,894 Arc User
    edited November 2016
    SWs can still do absurd amounts of damage. More than BiS GWFs. I've witnessed this twice. The builds are apparently not public yet but I do have ACT reports from these runs. I still don't know what new bugs they're using because atm frankly I couldn't care less, I don't have time for this, as I barely play during week days. So, keep looking. And let me know so that I report these bugs. :smiley:
  • kallephi#0836 kallephi
    kallephi#0836
         Member Posts: 281 Arc User
    edited November 2016
    I'm a 3.7 GS SW and I disagree with the first 2 posts. When the "nerf", fix, or whatever, hit us, I felt bad, I had a hard time to adapt and be competitive again. But now, I have adapted. I'm not saying that we aren't below the place we should be, we are, but to say SW is b-u-llshit now, or that is a joke is a lie. I still can do massive dps (I mean dps, not damage done before someone says paingiver means nothing) and I can compete with any class.
    I agree with @spideymt and @diogene0

    I know I replied to some topics saying that now we can't compete with other classes, and I had a hard time putting my stuff together, but now I assume I was crying a river because of the fix.

    I still use green insignias, I don't have a legendary mount, my brutals are rank 11, my companion uses Brutals rank 7 (waiting for the next week to put everything on rank 12) and my active companions include an uncommon earth archon and an uncommon air archon. I play on my SW only, although I have 16 invoking alts and I assure you I can do close damage to any class in the game.

    I'm not here to flame but in my opinion you guys should adapt. I say it again, yes, we could do more, our skills and powers should be reworked and we deserve more love. But, I totally disagree that SWs are b-u-llshit or a joke.

    I'm not here to prove anything to anyone, but everytime I see people saying that warlock is terrible now, it makes me want to record every single dungeon, trial, etc and keep my ACT running all the time.

    PS: Yes, I know that Owlbear Cub is still working with Pop. But its only 13-15% of my damage in FBI for example. 15% doesn't mean you rely on that to do dps/damage.

    To the devs. We are not terrible, or bad, or utter trash. We are underperfoming, yes. I agree with that. But we are not the last piece of c-r-a-p in the world, people who say that SWs are terrible now are just overreacting.

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    diogene0 said:

    SWs can still do absurd amounts of damage. More than BiS GWFs. I've witnessed this twice. The builds are apparently not public yet but I do have ACT reports from these runs. I still don't know what new bugs they're using because atm frankly I couldn't care less, I don't have time for this, as I barely play during week days. So, keep looking. And let me know so that I report these bugs. :smiley:

    I agree with the beginning of your post, but... Now that some SWs adapted they do good dps because they are just using bugs? Really?
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  • tom#6998 tom
    tom#6998
         Member Posts: 952 Arc User
    edited November 2016
    @kallephi#0836

    yeah SW isnt HAMSTER, i would say about 20% behind CW adn about 30% behind GWF atm

    @diogene0
    Proof or it didnt happened. Anyone can claim stuff like that. I talked to many SWs on the server as far as i know the best sws out there and none of them could outdps the best gwf/cw i know.
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  • metalraro#7399 metalraro
    metalraro#7399
         Member Posts: 38 Arc User
    diogene0 said:

    SWs can still do absurd amounts of damage. More than BiS GWFs. I've witnessed this twice. The builds are apparently not public yet but I do have ACT reports from these runs. I still don't know what new bugs they're using because atm frankly I couldn't care less, I don't have time for this, as I barely play during week days. So, keep looking. And let me know so that I report these bugs. :smiley:

    I bleed my eyes from reading these HAMSTER
  • hawkeyelhawkeyel Member Posts: 389 Arc User
    We might have to wait and see just what happens to the other striker classes that they have not yet balanced to see just how far we are out of range . Our current place might be a bad sign for them and what is to come. I feel they shall keep cutting back on every class till they feel like they can again have room to offer new stuff for all to go after again. Would seem to be a normal cycle for this type of game. Death from a thousand cuts.
  • durugudesudurugudesu Member Posts: 555 Arc User
    tom#6998 said:

    what we need imo is a Classfeat on SW which boosts our dps by about 20-30%dps. Its kinda strange that we as striker class have only 1 offensive classfeat which is only about 2%dps increase (speaking of deadly curse). That would close the gap between SW and CW/GWF atleast in FBI which is anyway the only dungeon that really matters.

    LOL you must not have an HR. class feat sucks balls and if SW gets that 20-30% dps boost then all other classes will follow and it will be in a cycle again. Im not against SWs but its absurd to ask for a feat that increases dps by that margin with the reason that you only have 1 offensive class feat because HRs got it bad too. :pensive:
  • tom#6998 tom
    tom#6998
         Member Posts: 952 Arc User
    edited November 2016
    durugudesu said:

    tom#6998 said:

    what we need imo is a Classfeat on SW which boosts our dps by about 20-30%dps. Its kinda strange that we as striker class have only 1 offensive classfeat which is only about 2%dps increase (speaking of deadly curse). That would close the gap between SW and CW/GWF atleast in FBI which is anyway the only dungeon that really matters.

    LOL you must not have an HR. class feat sucks balls and if SW gets that 20-30% dps boost then all other classes will follow and it will be in a cycle again. Im not against SWs but its absurd to ask for a feat that increases dps by that margin with the reason that you only have 1 offensive class feat because HRs got it bad too. :pensive:
    maybe then HR should get a usefull classfeat too then (i dont play hr and dont know how the class works sry) but both CW and GWF which i either play or know a bit of have classfeats that boost their dps by A LOT (like 50%+ no joke). There are other ways to change the gap but i felt like changing 1 classfeat to improve our dps a bit would be the "easiest solution"
  • qtpiekayqtpiekay Member Posts: 15 Arc User
    There hasnt been a single good sw on thw forums in 10.5 on pc that claimed that they are top dps now. The need hammer was too extreme this time no matter which build you go for. Rip sw.
  • schietindebuxschietindebux Member Posts: 4,292 Arc User
    edited November 2016
    Destroyer + weapon mastery... +20% critchance with offhandfeat and 46,5% + damage at 3 stacks... No alternativ except you got allready max crit and run wrathfull determination instead weapon mastery...thats another 25% + damage
  • tom#6998 tom
    tom#6998
         Member Posts: 952 Arc User
    yeah thats what i am talking about.
    we have deadly curse wich is about 1-2% dps buff thats all
  • hmdq#4491 hmdq
    hmdq#4491
         Member Posts: 508 Arc User
    Welcome to CW team...congrats to devs @mimicking#6533 @terramak after destroy another class and make a game only for ONE HAMSTER class.
  • hmdq#4491 hmdq
    hmdq#4491
         Member Posts: 508 Arc User
    tom#6998 said:

    @kallephi#0836

    yeah SW isnt HAMSTER, i would say about 20% behind CW adn about 30% behind GWF atm

    @diogene0
    Proof or it didnt happened. Anyone can claim stuff like that. I talked to many SWs on the server as far as i know the best sws out there and none of them could outdps the best gwf/cw i know.

    +-20% less CW even after indirect nerf in the owlbear cub?
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