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swapilotswapilot Member Posts: 58 Arc User
If ignorant questions upset you, please stop reading now.
I have read all the threads here and some on the web dealing with post 10.5 Pallies. More than once I have read something to the effect "strip/ take all the enchants off and roll a GF". I have a feeling this is a really stupid question but what are they talking about?

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  • rjc9000rjc9000 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,405 Arc User
    swapilot said:

    If ignorant questions upset you, please stop reading now.
    I have read all the threads here and some on the web dealing with post 10.5 Pallies. More than once I have read something to the effect "strip/ take all the enchants off and roll a GF". I have a feeling this is a really stupid question but what are they talking about?

    The Paladin's Binding Oath and Bubble got hit with the nerfbat.

    Not quite sure how BO was nerfed, because for me, I notice no changes with my survivability, but I'm really feeling the fact that BO taunts (even if only against a few enemies).

    Bubble's damage mitigation for the team was reduced (ie, Bubble is slightly less effective in protecting the team). I was going to say that you can't use it to cheese Call of Winter, but I haven't tested that yet (thankfully, as people seem to realize that they need to hide behind the ice blocks). However, it still is good for those oh HAMSTER moments, like when your teammates get downed or you need to run from Orcus' balls.

    Other than that, something about Owlbear cub nerf, Sanctuary buff, and Absolution buff.

    So, in a short, concise answer: Tankadins are fine in Mod10.5, but people are overreacting. Paladin can still tank dungeons, even up to FBI, but no longer as brainlessly as before.

  • silence1xsilence1x Member Posts: 1,503 Arc User
    swapilot said:

    . . ."strip/ take all the enchants off and roll a GF". I have a feeling this is a really stupid question but what are they talking about?

    They want you to quit playing your OP and start playing a GF.

    I aim to misbehave
  • swapilotswapilot Member Posts: 58 Arc User
    edited November 2016
    rjc9000 said:

    swapilot said:

    If ignorant questions upset you, please stop reading now.
    I have read all the threads here and some on the web dealing with post 10.5 Pallies. More than once I have read something to the effect "strip/ take all the enchants off and roll a GF". I have a feeling this is a really stupid question but what are they talking about?

    The Paladin's Binding Oath and Bubble got hit with the nerfbat.

    Not quite sure how BO was nerfed, because for me, I notice no changes with my survivability, but I'm really feeling the fact that BO taunts (even if only against a few enemies).

    Bubble's damage mitigation for the team was reduced (ie, Bubble is slightly less effective in protecting the team). I was going to say that you can't use it to cheese Call of Winter, but I haven't tested that yet (thankfully, as people seem to realize that they need to hide behind the ice blocks). However, it still is good for those oh HAMSTER moments, like when your teammates get downed or you need to run from Orcus' balls.

    Other than that, something about Owlbear cub nerf, Sanctuary buff, and Absolution buff.

    So, in a short, concise answer: Tankadins are fine in Mod10.5, but people are overreacting. Paladin can still tank dungeons, even up to FBI, but no longer as brainlessly as before.
    Thanks for the input. My question deals with "strip/take all the enchants off and roll a GF". What do they mean by that statement? Is it possible to take a current character, say my second level 70 OP, and turn it into a level 70 GF or must I must I delete that character, lose all the equipment, and start from scratch?
  • rubytruerubytrue Member Posts: 582 Arc User
    swapilot said:

    rjc9000 said:

    swapilot said:

    If ignorant questions upset you, please stop reading now.
    I have read all the threads here and some on the web dealing with post 10.5 Pallies. More than once I have read something to the effect "strip/ take all the enchants off and roll a GF". I have a feeling this is a really stupid question but what are they talking about?

    The Paladin's Binding Oath and Bubble got hit with the nerfbat.

    Not quite sure how BO was nerfed, because for me, I notice no changes with my survivability, but I'm really feeling the fact that BO taunts (even if only against a few enemies).

    Bubble's damage mitigation for the team was reduced (ie, Bubble is slightly less effective in protecting the team). I was going to say that you can't use it to cheese Call of Winter, but I haven't tested that yet (thankfully, as people seem to realize that they need to hide behind the ice blocks). However, it still is good for those oh HAMSTER moments, like when your teammates get downed or you need to run from Orcus' balls.

    Other than that, something about Owlbear cub nerf, Sanctuary buff, and Absolution buff.

    So, in a short, concise answer: Tankadins are fine in Mod10.5, but people are overreacting. Paladin can still tank dungeons, even up to FBI, but no longer as brainlessly as before.
    Thanks for the input. My question deals with "strip/take all the enchants off and roll a GF". What do they mean by that statement? Is it possible to take a current character, say my second level 70 OP, and turn it into a level 70 GF or must
    I start from scratch?
    You have to start from scratch, but you can take the enchantments you have invested in any character and move them around from one character to the next. Say for example, you've spent a lot of AD on a high end lightning enchantment for your weapon; you can take it out of your paladin's weapon and use it on a guardian fighter's weapon if you choose.
  • xkrz8xdeathxkrz8xdeath Member Posts: 39 Arc User
    edited November 2016
    Wow hmm I was a pally got needed now made a dc if dc turns out like this. I'm going totally not spend a dime if I do waste money cause they nefing to the point were the class. won't be fun at all to play
  • rjc9000rjc9000 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,405 Arc User
    swapilot said:

    rjc9000 said:

    swapilot said:

    If ignorant questions upset you, please stop reading now.
    I have read all the threads here and some on the web dealing with post 10.5 Pallies. More than once I have read something to the effect "strip/ take all the enchants off and roll a GF". I have a feeling this is a really stupid question but what are they talking about?

    The Paladin's Binding Oath and Bubble got hit with the nerfbat.

    Not quite sure how BO was nerfed, because for me, I notice no changes with my survivability, but I'm really feeling the fact that BO taunts (even if only against a few enemies).

    Bubble's damage mitigation for the team was reduced (ie, Bubble is slightly less effective in protecting the team). I was going to say that you can't use it to cheese Call of Winter, but I haven't tested that yet (thankfully, as people seem to realize that they need to hide behind the ice blocks). However, it still is good for those oh HAMSTER moments, like when your teammates get downed or you need to run from Orcus' balls.

    Other than that, something about Owlbear cub nerf, Sanctuary buff, and Absolution buff.

    So, in a short, concise answer: Tankadins are fine in Mod10.5, but people are overreacting. Paladin can still tank dungeons, even up to FBI, but no longer as brainlessly as before.
    Thanks for the input. My question deals with "strip/take all the enchants off and roll a GF". What do they mean by that statement? Is it possible to take a current character, say my second level 70 OP, and turn it into a level 70 GF or must I must I delete that character, lose all the equipment, and start from scratch?
    Sadly, there is no "class change" token. rubytrue has it correct in that you will need to do boons on your GF (seriously, run a Conqueror when doing campaigns. IWD is super tediuous as a Tactician).

    Wow hmm I was a pally got needed now made a dc if dc turns out like this. I'm going totally not spend a dime if I do waste money cause they nefing to the point were the class. won't be fun at all to play

    Paladin is fine, you just need to think a little bit when using a Pally.

    I'm not sure to what will happen to the DC exactly, but I am quite sure that AA is going to get reworked.

    Also, I am going to confidently predict that the DC rework will be a similar case to the Paladin: stupid things get buffed, some useful things get nerfed, the DC community QQs, but we will dust ourselves off and carry on.

    Besides, other than the Healadin and maybe the occasional TempLocks, I seriously doubt Cryptic will do anything too drastic to mess up the original healing/buffing class.

    ... Anndd I just realized that I am tempting fate.

    -_-

  • armadeonxarmadeonx Member Posts: 4,952 Arc User
    edited November 2016
    To be clear, you now need to be better geared to be effective. A 3.5k+ OP shouldn't have a problem as you need either very high defence and recovery or very high HP and good DPS to generate more. You can't just stack Stamina and hide behind your shield like a GF.
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