Grinding so I can grind? (Refilling relic gear)

agenty0rk · October 2016

Not really digging the new armor setup. It takes 2100 vblod to get it from tier 1 to tier 2 and an additional 2100 to get it to tier 3. All so I can play for an hour? And that's just for 1 piece of armor. Times that by 4. So now I need to get on and grind just so I can play anything else.

A players playing schedule would look like this: Get on head to BS (haha BS maybe they do know) grind for a few hours so I can refill my armor set. Now go play the things I wanted to play in the first place. All you guys did was add a chore.

Pretty lame in my opinion. I'll probably play for a little longer but this will 100% make me sick of the game and I eventually stop playing all together.

Seems like the focus is on the grind and not the content. It's getting old. The game would be amazing if it wasn't focused on grinding instead of content.

sundance777 · October 2016

The new gear is supposedly BiS, I am fine with the grind to obtain the gear, that is better than trying to RNG for rings.

I am not sure I like the maintenance part, I thought the black ice set had that and they decided it was a bad idea....

The thing I don't like is they added a new dungeon that we can't go into unless we accept the grind for 20 plus days or whatever the math works out to be now. Having a gear gate on a supposedly cool new dungeon is silly. I have nice gear and am over 3100 IL, I would love to try the content but I don't want to grind for new gear on top of the IL requirement and the campaign progress gate just to run one dungeon.

I have already been grinding in the game for well over a year to get my toons in decent shape and grinding for the SH, this is beginning to not be fun any more it is just a hassle. Bring back the fun.

tom · October 2016

With mod 10.b u wilk have the option to upgrade your relic armor to vivid armor where even at T1 it will be better then the masterwork armor. So basicly if you are to lazy to empower its still BIS

agenty0rk · October 2016

Totally agree with you Sundance777. The game is a chore now. Bring back the fun for sure.

wdj40 · October 2016

Yup... I still have not got enough Voniblood to restore 1 item yet and I have been playing for hours every day since Mod 10 dropped. No offence but the fun is stripped away from the game when you make people have to grind that much to get just 1 piece of armour, that I will NEVER wear as I cannot stand degrading on items.

juergeng123 · October 2016

where did you get the relic gear from?

wdj40 · October 2016

juergeng123 said:
where did you get the relic gear from?

One of the bigger HE in the new Zone. It was just a drop when you collect the reward for completing a HE.

I have not had any drop from Lonelywood yet though.

sh00termcl0vin · October 2016

Or you can just grind the gear and then just equip it to enter fangbreaker so you meet the everfrost resist requirements, then unequip it. That's what I plan on doing. Anyone that is intent on grinding to keep this stuff fully empowered is either a bot or a crazy person. Sad that we have to plan around poorly designed game mechanics.

cscriv79 · October 2016

The gear is 140IL at base Tier 1 then increases to 145IL at tier 2 with a stat increase and then they increase again when at tier 3.

Seems really good for a one off empowerment like black ice shaping but the fact it degrades and at such a fast rate is terrible.

moogie101 · October 2016

I get that RPGs & more-so MMOs by their very nature are grindy but this seems to be going so far.

I imagine it will change like the Black Ice did so I'll be holding off upgrading anything until then.

armadeonx · October 2016

Personally I'm bored of it already. Just thinking about it makes me want to turn off the game. I'm truly struggling to go and do today's STK dailies.

wdj40 · October 2016

armadeonx said:
Personally I'm bored of it already. Just thinking about it makes me want to turn off the game. I'm truly struggling to go and do today's STK dailies.

Unfortunately I feel a little bit the same dude. I get on and do my new Dailies and after that I run some with my Guild if needed. In the evening I really struggle to play much as it makes me super tired to wait and try to get into a HE group to spam them for a while... queue for a dungeon PUG if Guildies are busy and sometimes over 30mins goes without the queue popping... PvP is just way to hard for a PvE orientated Guild etc, even though I really really want to enjoy that.

I still have not got a single +5 Ring.

I don't think I will play much longer, all this new content behind pay walls and nothing being done about the extreme lack of end game Dungeons in a D&D game, bit bored and I don't want to be

sundance777 · October 2016

sh00termcl0vin said:
Or you can just grind the gear and then just equip it to enter fangbreaker so you meet the everfrost resist requirements, then unequip it. That's what I plan on doing. Anyone that is intent on grinding to keep this stuff fully empowered is either a bot or a crazy person. Sad that we have to plan around poorly designed game mechanics.

I am thinking this is what I may end up doing, that should prevent the timer from running down and prevent needing to maintain it again.

I too have once piece of gear from the BS HE's, but three hours of grinding HE's on top of the time to do dailies has yet to produce the items to repair the gear...I don't think I even have half of what is needed, the lanolin or whatever, so we are talking about 6-10 hours of mindless HE farming per piece...poke my eyes out.

agenty0rk · October 2016

5 or 6 people from my guild have quit since the launch of this dlc. My guild is gh20 with almost all boons maxed out. So I'm sure you can imagine these were players in it for the long run. One player even had all the master working tools and still quit. Wake up before it's to late PWE. I'm seconds away from hanging up the boots too. Can't even convince myself to login anymore.

wdj40 · October 2016

sundance777 said:

sh00termcl0vin said:
Or you can just grind the gear and then just equip it to enter fangbreaker so you meet the everfrost resist requirements, then unequip it. That's what I plan on doing. Anyone that is intent on grinding to keep this stuff fully empowered is either a bot or a crazy person. Sad that we have to plan around poorly designed game mechanics.
I am thinking this is what I may end up doing, that should prevent the timer from running down and prevent needing to maintain it again.

I too have once piece of gear from the BS HE's, but three hours of grinding HE's on top of the time to do dailies has yet to produce the items to repair the gear...I don't think I even have half of what is needed, the lanolin or whatever, so we are talking about 6-10 hours of mindless HE farming per piece...poke my eyes out.

I have 1.... 1 Lanolin.... 1.... I have over 10k Vonigrind and used a lot already, cant get any of the other stuff to drop and just don't want to keep spamming HE's that are as laggy as WoD is when fighting dragons... no tactics just button mashing hoping to out beat the lag

iccyasd · October 2016

same here it makes me think of dropping this game, this campaign is such a grind. restoring/upgrading relic armor should come easier, make it where we can use voninblod to exchange Lanolin, upgrading armor that doesnt degrade with timer, if you really wanted the timer could always make T4/overcharge with the same idea but at least 8 hours timer, increases voninblod get per HE/daily quest should double, or maybe 1-2k voninblod for weekly or some sort.

Is there any in house game tester that could maintain 4 pieces of frost/relic armor every 1-2 hour? i dont think i could get 2-3k voninblod in time just from doing HE's in an hour.

all i could see from this campaign its to stalled us from progressing fast, the low density of hides animal, goblin?, slow fishing, cutting threes, sending medicines to refugees (not enough for 2-3 players doing the same quest), search 12 boxes?

have you guys seen how much items we need for restoring relic weapon on mod10.5? i have 1 word to describe it HAMSTER lol!

Peach said:

We also get new artifact weapons.
As Scourge Warlock, they are named Hexweaver, like the relic gear from Fangbreaker Island.
SW main Hand: http://prnt.sc/cor3x0
SW off Hand: http://prnt.sc/cor3x0
Getting those new weapons, probably won't be that easy. After finishing several zone intro quests, including fishing quest, you get rotten weapon pieces as last quest reward. Same as relic gear, you need to restore them.
SW main Hand: http://prnt.sc/cor5ja
30000x Voninblod
3x Ostorian Residuum (treasure maps)
5x Runechanged Ink (fishing)
40x Reclaimed Rune (daily quest)
1x Frozenfar Mistletoe (HE reward - new zone)
1x Bibliothol (Weaponsmithing rank 25 - 20x Lanolin, 1x Northern Animal Fat, 10x Slaked Lime)
20x Dragon Turtle Moult (HE reward)

SW off Hand: http://prnt.sc/cor5br
20000x Voninblod
2x Dubbin (treasure maps)
3x Permafrost Shell (fishing)
20x Reclaimed Rune (daily quest)
1x Evermelt Spring Water (HE reward - new zone)
1x Mane Plaster (Artificing rank 25 - 20x Lanolin, 1x Permafrost Shard, 10x Concentrated Residuum)
20x Dragon Turtle Moult (HE reward)
(As SW I need Slaked LIme and Concentrated Residuum from MW node items. Other classes can be in the need of those 2 or Silex and Sal Ammoniac.)

mahburg · October 2016

I did a test with the new companion and the master trowell from the zen store, with those its possible to do between 9 and 15K voninblood per hour from Relic farming. The game plan is clear

sundance777 · October 2016

wdj40 said:

I have 1.... 1 Lanolin.... 1.... I have over 10k Vonigrind and used a lot already, cant get any of the other stuff to drop and just don't want to keep spamming HE's that are as laggy as WoD is when fighting dragons... no tactics just button mashing hoping to out beat the lag

It seems to be some more RNG, I hit 3 heroics yesterday and all three gave lanolin, so now I still don't have to refine my boots on one toon...this not going to be very alt friendly either.

agenty0rk · October 2016

Mahburg I think that game plan has always been clear. Spend more money. Neverwinter isn't about having fun it's about spending money. With every dlc that comes out this become more and more apparent. None of the content if fun. It's not designed to be. It's designed to be frustrating and inspire you to pay to complete it.

sundance777 · October 2016

I just realized that the only piece of gear that drops for free is the boots, until now I was under the impression I could get enough gear to go to FBI without using money backed currency but apparently that is incorrect. Hopefully there is a combination of frost resist that can be obtained without zen or tradebars to allow the 28% otherwise I will not ever see the new gated content

cscriv79 · October 2016

sundance777 said:
I just realized that the only piece of gear that drops for free is the boots, until now I was under the impression I could get enough gear to go to FBI without using money backed currency but apparently that is incorrect. Hopefully there is a combination of frost resist that can be obtained without zen or tradebars to allow the 28% otherwise I will not ever see the new gated content

armour kits, potions, boons may help ppl reach the required %.

But there is no reason to run the dungeon, +5 rings can be gained from EDemo or CN. Other than that you only get more armour that you then have to empower for no reason other than to run FBI.

To me it is a pointless dungeon that I will more than likely run a few times just so I have ran it then back to CN and EDemo for rings and salvage.

sundance777 · October 2016

If my math is right, the boots, plus campaign boons, potions and the shirt/pants and armor kits should be able to hit 28% for entry.

mahburg · November 2016

agenty0rk#8993 said:
Mahburg I think that game plan has always been clear. Spend more money. Neverwinter isn't about having fun it's about spending money. With every dlc that comes out this become more and more apparent. None of the content if fun. It's not designed to be. It's designed to be frustrating and inspire you to pay to complete it.

Indeed and that was my point!

Grinding so I can grind? (Refilling relic gear)

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