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Should gwf's be named easy go kill fighters?

assassin274#4214 assassin274
assassin274#4214
 Member Posts: 29 Arc User
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Lets be real unless your really high gs or know your class on seems like gwf's are always the easiest kill unless the gwf is really high gs and im a gwf myself and i have the easiest time killing a gwf. I mean gf's just a stronger version of gwf that can block(While moving). Tr's can just 1 shot us or courage break and thats just R.I.P. Hr's mod 10 i hear can just eat a gwf but it's not making sense to me to see where we stand in pvp if every other class can outplay us. At least if there good. P.s i see vids on tr's purposely aiming for gwf or sw knowing we cant do anything about their dailys. I mean tr's are even tankier then us with 75% deflection severity and higher deflection chance with a 1000 feet roll and invisibilty . I just dont understand. Sorry if this sounds like a rant I just need a clarification

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  • sirrapprosirrappro Member Posts: 45 Arc User
    edited October 2016
    Meh I'm a 3.1-3.2 gwf and I do just fine tbh, My current kdr is like 370-26, which I think is pretty good for only 3.2
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  • emilemoemilemo Member Posts: 1,718 Arc User
    Been a long time since I played my GWF in pvp but here is something offtopi but related to the class that surely affects pvp. Last night i was doing weeklies with all my toons and I could swear the GWF play seemed very laggy. Like he was rubberbanding every time he hit Threatening rush or Sprint. I switched to my GF after the GWF and was running around much faster with zero lag.. Weird
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  • hanniballa#2401 hanniballa
    hanniballa#2401
         Member Posts: 74 Arc User
    Another one of these threads. Just roll with it dude. Every class has it's ups and downs depending on the mod. This is your downtime in pvp. Considering how much dps gwfs and sw can do in pve, I'd stop complaining.
  • assassin274#4214 assassin274
    assassin274#4214
         Member Posts: 29 Arc User
    @sirrappro thats pretty high gs in my opinion. I do decent too but its facing good premades its just r.i.p. @emilemo yea theres a sprint malfunction if you try to stop the sprint sometimes when your stamina regenerates the gwf will just automatically start sprinting again and its annoying because its hard to get your stamina back up if it keeps getting drained
  • assassin274#4214 assassin274
    assassin274#4214
         Member Posts: 29 Arc User
    @hanniballa idc for pve as to why i posted in pvp discussion. Play a gwf against a good premade . put yourself in my shoes. Then you'll wonder why
  • jackanuckox3jackanuckox3 Member Posts: 14 Arc User
    You consider 3k high? I assume you are playing with roughly 2.5k iLvl (correct me if I am wrong) and in this iLvl Range every class is an easy kill for better geared people, not just Gwf's.
  • assassin274#4214 assassin274
    assassin274#4214
         Member Posts: 29 Arc User
    @jack yes u maybe right but ive played almost every class and excelled at the class and tr and hr and gf can still excell easily if they know what to do
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  • ionvnegativoionvnegativo Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 119 Arc User
    Dont play neverwinter!, is a trap!, you are still on time to find another MMO, im talking seriously.

    Otherwise stay like me(and many others), like a fool, waiting for almost tree years for devs to fix things. I regret having played/wasted all that time, some months ago i decided to stop playing, now i joined Bar Brothers, street workout, take the advice or ignore it, i really hope you are not wasting 5-6-7-8 hours per day of your life playing, i used to do that, and now, i realize that was for nothing. Hope nobody got insulted with this reply, because, the truth always hurts, like piercing damage.

    Regards.
  • assassin274#4214 assassin274
    assassin274#4214
         Member Posts: 29 Arc User
    @Etelgrin hahaha good response
  • assassin274#4214 assassin274
    assassin274#4214
         Member Posts: 29 Arc User
    @xsayajinx1Sounds resasonable i'll take that into consideration ill probably just keep playing this until next class balances i guess
  • assassin274#4214 assassin274
    assassin274#4214
         Member Posts: 29 Arc User
    @ionvnegativo haha true but on ps4 theres really not much competition for mmo's other then elder scrolls online and that pvp is just bad
  • emilemoemilemo Member Posts: 1,718 Arc User
    ionvnegativo said:

    Dont play neverwinter!, is a trap!, you are still on time to find another MMO, im talking seriously.

    Otherwise stay like me(and many others), like a fool, waiting for almost tree years for devs to fix things. I regret having played/wasted all that time, some months ago i decided to stop playing, now i joined Bar Brothers, street workout, take the advice or ignore it, i really hope you are not wasting 5-6-7-8 hours per day of your life playing, i used to do that, and now, i realize that was for nothing. Hope nobody got insulted with this reply, because, the truth always hurts, like piercing damage.

    Regards.

    Im lol right now, not because what you wrote is funny but because its true. I share the sentiment but something keeps drawing me back here. I tried other mmos and while GW2 is gorgeous the combat felt off. I guess Im a player who values good combat mechanics and animations above all and Neverwinter got it down. Ive got a ton of real life activities to occupy my time but I also like to play a game every once in awhile and for the time being this is the game (at least till Camelot Unchained goes live)

    What I have decided to do however is play for free. They dont hear our words but they will surely hear our money talking so lets send them a message.
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    Merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily, Life is but a dream.
  • ionvnegativoionvnegativo Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 119 Arc User
    edited October 2016
    emilemo said:


    I share the sentiment but something keeps drawing me back here.

    Is kind of difficult to abandon your toons, :'(. Something like leaving your pet in the street, really disheartening.
    assassin274#4214 said:

    ....... ill probably just keep playing this until next class balances i guess

    ^^ this is what im talking about man, this just never gets completely real, you wait and wait and keep waiting and hope for the "next" class balance, but they always introduce a class, power, artifact, mount, boon, feat, bug, weapon, etc, that breaks in some way the game. At some point you get tired of this.

    As someone pointed to you above, if you want to go to pvp with ungeared toons, expect to die a lot, being farmed, smashed, and adapt, this is a very pessimistic advice from me, but is the way this game have been working since the begining.

    Just see the amount of recent posts about improving pvp, most of them end in rage and flame, this is a very effective way of "courage breaker" ppl iniciatives for trying to do something, i almost bet my head, that ppl have more enemies here than in real life.
  • schietindebuxschietindebux Member Posts: 4,292 Arc User
    edited October 2016
    You can run every class and suck in PVP and you can run every class, using the correct build (adapted to your gearlevel), and may enjoy PVP to some degree.
    I watched a lot of 3k GWF´s in PVP (last time i took part), who got eaten easily. But I also met some rare player (even at lower GS 3.o to 3.4) , who did pretty good (stats, build, skill)--> all of them had huge LS/selfheal, some also invested in deflect a bit.
    Hunter kills GF, GWF, CW, TR..maybe warlock atm by runnig a piercing build (same when TR was reworked in mod 5).
    Like otheres mentioned, the best way to counter is selfheal from LS, incoming healing, insignia and drowned weapon and movement. Get those and you gonna do better...or just avoid PVP.
  • shrewguyshrewguy Member Posts: 150 Arc User
    schietindebux said:

    You can run every class and suck in PVP and you can run every class, using the correct build (adapted to your gearlevel), and may enjoy PVP to some degree.
    I watched a lot of 3k GWF´s in PVP (last time i took part), who got eaten easily. But I also met some rare player (even at lower GS 3.o to 3.4) , who did pretty good (stats, build, skill)--> all of them had huge LS/selfheal, some also invested in deflect a bit.
    Hunter kills GF, GWF, CW, TR..maybe warlock atm by runnig a piercing build (same when TR was reworked in mod 5).
    Like otheres mentioned, the best way to counter is selfheal from LS, incoming healing, insignia and drowned weapon and movement. Get those and you gonna do better...or just avoid PVP.

    the diffenrece here is probably guild boons. A 3.4k guy with full guild boons is a threat, a 3.4 guy with no guild boons is a joke.

    the strong hold mod really ruined the game for me, I'm in a small guild, so basically I'm not viable for any content.
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  • schietindebuxschietindebux Member Posts: 4,292 Arc User
    edited October 2016
    defiantone99 said:

    The funniest thing about GWF not having a dodge can be experienced in CN. All of the other classes just run through the balls, GWF gets left behind having to wait for them to pass.

    mighty leap :) like a bunny
  • szejhuludpuchaczszejhuludpuchacz Member Posts: 306 Arc User
    defiantone99 said:

    The funniest thing about GWF not having a dodge can be experienced in CN. All of the other classes just run through the balls, GWF gets left behind having to wait for them to pass.

    Easy in unstop/kv. My GWF has no problem with balls.
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