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Fangbreaker island ...3.1k IL requirement !

pan17pan17 Member Posts: 310 Arc User
How new players are supposed to reach that item level in order to join groups for it ?
cryptic devs...Do we have to spend real money to buy rank 12 enchants or useless armor kits to increase our item level ?
that's the purpose of neverwinter's pve aspect ...?

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  • pr3stigexpr3stigex Member Posts: 419 Arc User
    The dungeon is for higher tier players. If you want to become a higher tier player over night then yes by all means shell out some cash. If not go about your merry day and play what is in your item level
    Lash Urzoth 3.7k GWF, Pr3sTiGe 3k SW.
  • oliboypholiboyph Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 627 Arc User
    To be honest there is no real pressing need to get into FBI. The rewards are not that great either. Just go about strengthening your character and when you feel you are ready for a "high difficulty" challenge, you can go ahead and get a group for FBI. That's supposed to be the fun part of MMO's putting in time and effort improving your characters.
    "As the good archmage often admonishes me, I ought not to let my mind wander, as it's too small to go off by itself." -Danilo Thann[/quote]
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  • silverkeltsilverkelt Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 4,235 Arc User
    3.1k is nothing..

    28% everfrost is much harder to get to.. trust me.
  • pr3stigexpr3stigex Member Posts: 419 Arc User
    So many threads pissed at the new mod lol
    Lash Urzoth 3.7k GWF, Pr3sTiGe 3k SW.
  • reaper#3644 reaper Member Posts: 126 Arc User
    edited August 2016
    I don't understand the hate I'm not at il 3100. but I see the need for more content for the real end game players and this mod is the first step I've seen for them. The people complaining need to realize that every mod before this has been for the causal player. At least since January
  • armadeonxarmadeonx Member Posts: 4,952 Arc User
    The issue is it needs a new set of armor - the stats for which aren't much better than previous stuff except for a new 'everfrost resistance' stat that requires top-ups from potions...

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  • guille23mxguille23mx Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 340 Arc User
    how do we reach 28% everfrost resistance?
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  • qexoticqexotic Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 841 Arc User

    how do we reach 28% everfrost resistance?

    There are several options but one way is to select enough bits from the following list of available options:

    2nd Boon = 2% (just takes time)
    Potion of Everfrost Resist (Blue bottle) = 5%
    Excavator's Potion of Everfrost Resist = 5% (but potions don't stack anymore)

    Trailblazer's Raid Gaiters, i.e. Epic Boots dropped from Major HEs in Bryn Shander (Maxed) = 8% (The drop rate on this may be 'reasonable' but getting together a group to run the large HEs successfully is not easy)
    (4th Boon = 2% but doesn't count as you need 350 Reputation which is more than you need to reach FBI)

    Makos' Signet = 3% (downgrade to gear due to Utility slot rather than Defense)
    Greater Everfrost Trousers, i.e. Epic Undergarment = 3% (Campaing Store item but final cost unknown)
    Greater Everfrost Undercoat, i.e. Epic Undergarment = 3% (Campaign Store item but final cost unknown)
    Everfrost Resist Armor Kit = 3% = 6% when applied to both undergarments

    Cawl Cennin (soup ?) = 2% (Unobtainable to players not in a Guild)

    Frostborn Gear from Tradebar Store = upto 4% for each piece
    Frostborn Gear in Bundles on the Zen Store = upto 4% for each piece

    With those, it is possible to put together the required 28%. Most of them require grinding for some combination of Voninblod, Ten Towns' Supplies, Reputation, and Secrets of Ostoria. Good luck :)
  • guille23mxguille23mx Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 340 Arc User
    Thx man. Appreciate it
  • gabrieldourdengabrieldourden Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,212 Arc User
    And it's 29% since last patch.
    Le-Shan: HR level 80 (main)
    Born of Black Wind: SW Level 80
  • oliboypholiboyph Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 627 Arc User
    pan17 said:

    how do we reach 28% everfrost resistance?

    you can use pots to increase yur everfrost resistanse...
    though..yu can't use pots to increase yur item level..pity...
    You can use reinforcement kits. Those will give your Ilvl a quick boost.
    "As the good archmage often admonishes me, I ought not to let my mind wander, as it's too small to go off by itself." -Danilo Thann[/quote]
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  • gabrieldourdengabrieldourden Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,212 Arc User
    Good news. Then it's probably 1 piece/boon/kit than I expected.

    Le-Shan: HR level 80 (main)
    Born of Black Wind: SW Level 80
  • silverkeltsilverkelt Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 4,235 Arc User
    Guys, you just dont get it..

    working on getting your toon to 3.1k is meaningless , with the additional gating, you have to be 3.1k with the HAMSTER gear they provide you,

    To get to this 28% resistance, it will require tens of thousands of vblood, MONTHS of daily and weekly rep quests.

    You will have to swap out of this gear, because you cant actually empower it and play with it, as it takes around 5-6 hours of HES grinding to play like 1 hour in the armor (ya I know really). It will cost you too much to play with the armors on.

    If you cant afford to get tbar armor and zen armor.. then you will increase this amount of grind by another 3-4+ weeks, (if not more really) you are looking at easily 3-4 months down the road (if not longer) to open up this instance.

    STOP fretting about getting to 3.1k .. its a meaningless discussion, Do the daily quests, grind out some vblood and save up all of your AD to buy r9s in every slot (r10 in offense and r9 in defense would be even better honestly) , save all of your RP (make artifact , enchanted coffers and res) from your leadership toons and apply them during double RPs.

    In addition .. going into this instance without at least a proper set up pet (perfect bondings + r10 in offense minimum) is sort of a waste of time.

    IT appears they lowered the damage output of the instance.

    While some of us are currently asking for a reduction of both resistance, or costing , or empowerment (or all three) we are hoping it is reduced to a more reasonable grind, dont count on it.. they will probably do that a mod removed.


  • qexoticqexotic Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 841 Arc User
    qexotic said:

    how do we reach 28% everfrost resistance?

    There are several options but one way is to select enough bits from the following list of available options:

    2nd Boon = 2% (just takes time)
    Potion of Everfrost Resist (Blue bottle) = 5%
    Excavator's Potion of Everfrost Resist = 5% (but potions don't stack anymore)

    Trailblazer's Raid Gaiters, i.e. Epic Boots dropped from Major HEs in Bryn Shander (Maxed) = 8% (The drop rate on this may be 'reasonable' but getting together a group to run the large HEs successfully is not easy)
    (4th Boon = 2% but doesn't count as you need 350 Reputation which is more than you need to reach FBI)

    Makos' Signet = 3% (downgrade to gear due to Utility slot rather than Defense)
    Greater Everfrost Trousers, i.e. Epic Undergarment = 3% (Campaing Store item but final cost unknown)
    Greater Everfrost Undercoat, i.e. Epic Undergarment = 3% (Campaign Store item but final cost unknown)
    Everfrost Resist Armor Kit = 3% = 6% when applied to both undergarments

    Cawl Cennin (soup ?) = 2% (Unobtainable to players not in a Guild)

    Frostborn Gear from Tradebar Store = upto 4% for each piece
    Frostborn Gear in Bundles on the Zen Store = upto 4% for each piece

    With those, it is possible to put together the required 28%. Most of them require grinding for some combination of Voninblod, Ten Towns' Supplies, Reputation, and Secrets of Ostoria. Good luck :)
    After reading @thefabricant's thread and visiting the Preview Server, I need to amend this list slightly as it seems the new potions DO stack afterall. So:

    Potion of Everfrost Resist (Blue bottle) = 5%
    Excavator's Potion of Everfrost Resist = 5%

    Can be used together to get 10% of that 28% requirement which means you can skip a couple of the other things, e.g. SH Soup, Makos' Signet, an Armor Kit, and still hit the target. But it's still high :(

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  • thefabricantthefabricant Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 5,248 Arc User
    You can very easily hit 3.1k ilvl without spending money on the game. I did it and I know others who have. You have to do some dedicated grinding to do it though.
  • talon1970talon1970 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 152 Arc User

    You can very easily hit 3.1k ilvl without spending money on the game. I did it and I know others who have. You have to do some dedicated grinding to do it though.

    Uuuhhhm well i have sold my wife and my virgin (hope so) 12 year old daughter to an arabic sheik and it was really hard to sell 200 Camels in Europe, to have the money reaching over 3k ilvl, maybe i did something wrong....




    P.S. this post is pure irony and a little bit sardonic. (I sold them for over 500 Camels)

  • qexoticqexotic Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 841 Arc User
    qexotic said:

    qexotic said:

    how do we reach 28% everfrost resistance?

    There are several options but one way is to select enough bits from the following list of available options:

    2nd Boon = 2% (just takes time)
    Potion of Everfrost Resist (Blue bottle) = 5%
    Excavator's Potion of Everfrost Resist = 5% (but potions don't stack anymore)

    Trailblazer's Raid Gaiters, i.e. Epic Boots dropped from Major HEs in Bryn Shander (Maxed) = 8% (The drop rate on this may be 'reasonable' but getting together a group to run the large HEs successfully is not easy)
    (4th Boon = 2% but doesn't count as you need 350 Reputation which is more than you need to reach FBI)

    Makos' Signet = 3% (downgrade to gear due to Utility slot rather than Defense)
    Greater Everfrost Trousers, i.e. Epic Undergarment = 3% (Campaing Store item but final cost unknown)
    Greater Everfrost Undercoat, i.e. Epic Undergarment = 3% (Campaign Store item but final cost unknown)
    Everfrost Resist Armor Kit = 3% = 6% when applied to both undergarments

    Cawl Cennin (soup ?) = 2% (Unobtainable to players not in a Guild)

    Frostborn Gear from Tradebar Store = upto 4% for each piece
    Frostborn Gear in Bundles on the Zen Store = upto 4% for each piece

    With those, it is possible to put together the required 28%. Most of them require grinding for some combination of Voninblod, Ten Towns' Supplies, Reputation, and Secrets of Ostoria. Good luck :)
    After reading @thefabricant's thread and visiting the Preview Server, I need to amend this list slightly as it seems the new potions DO stack afterall. So:

    Potion of Everfrost Resist (Blue bottle) = 5%
    Excavator's Potion of Everfrost Resist = 5%

    Can be used together to get 10% of that 28% requirement which means you can skip a couple of the other things, e.g. SH Soup, Makos' Signet, an Armor Kit, and still hit the target. But it's still high :(

    Unfortunately, I now have to add an update to my update. One of the devs, @asterdahl , has posted on another thread about how the two potions work. It turns out the everfrost resistance element does not stack even though an icon for both potions appears against your character. To quote him:

    'I wanted to clear the confusion that might be being caused by the way Excavator's Potion of Everfrost Resist displays its buff effects on the buff bar. Upon drinking an excavator's potion you'll be granted 2 separate buffs, Everfrost Resistance and Ostorian Excavator. The former is the same buff regardless of its source, the excavator potion or the standard potion. The latter buff is only granted by the excavator's potion.

    Because the two buffs feature the two different potion icons, if you were to drink the standard potion then the excavator's potion and not closely examine the description of the two buffs, it could be confusing and construed as the effects of both potions stacking. The functionality of these potions changed during development and in order to preserve the effect of not being able to accidentally overwrite the excavator's effect with the lesser potion, this somewhat confusing situation arose.

    I've passed along the feedback and we'll look at seeing whether improvements can be made to clarity.'

    So taking the two potions at the same time only gives you 5% not 10% of Everfrost Resistance. So you have to find the other 5% from other items that are available.
  • dodgododgo Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 870 Arc User
    whats the different IL between a rank 9, 10, 11, 12?
  • armadeonxarmadeonx Member Posts: 4,952 Arc User
    My prediction:

    Nobody is going to play the dungeon and Cryptic will change the requirement in a few months.

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  • zekethesinnerzekethesinner Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 805 Arc User
    pan17 said:

    how do we reach 28% everfrost resistance?

    you can use pots to increase yur everfrost resistanse...
    though..yu can't use pots to increase yur item level..pity...
    If you need to scrub for 3.1k IL, its not the place for you, and you are not welcomed there. Yet. As dps you would prolly be a 5th wheel, literally, anyway. If u dont feel ashamed for leeching out of your teamm8, then sure, go ahead. We will never meet there, so i personally dont care, im just feeling bad for your potential teamm8. Just done you dare coming back here crying about how hard FBI is, tho many scrubs will enter, so im expecting plenty posts like that.

    My advice, progress slowly and thoughtfully. Its not like there is anything good inside FBI, not even a challenge, especially after mobs dmg nerf.

    (Sin)cerely
    Kain


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