armor penetration and crit severity

neophyte1983 · August 2016

Hello,.
I found on the web you need 60 procent resistance ignored? Is that right? But when i look at my resistance ignored it is at minus -37.9 procent. And i have 3615 armor penetration. How do i get +60 procent or is it -60procent. Confused
About the crit severity.. its at +85 procent. If i use vorpal.. will it pass the 100 procent or is it capped at 100?

lewstelamon01 · August 2016

Should be at -60. As for your crit severity, since the base is 75% and a perfect vorp gives a 50% bonus, I would surmise that crit severity can pass 100% (which would be over double damage crits). However, the bonus will not be displayed from your vorpal--this is a known interface bug, though, and probably low on the priority list.

armadeonx · August 2016

Yep the crit severity is based on your regular non-crit damage so you can have in excess of 100%.

As your armor penetration goes up, your RI stat decreases.

neophyte1983 · August 2016

Thank you for the clarification. So my armor penetration need to get up. I thought as as rogue i prioritize power and crit. Also have the armored worg mount that give plus 1000 arm pen. Hmm.

shanx989 · August 2016

Trust me once you get to 70 and got some of your gear you will be fighting to lower your armor pen as it comes by so easy.

don't forget if you have a bonding companion to keep that in mind also.

i leave my armor pen at 50% as I know my companion adds on 2.5k+ quite fast which takes it above 60%.

armadeonx · August 2016

I'd rather have the armor pen on myself so I get the full benefit from the first hit and stack power, crit and defence or lifesteal (depending on character) on the companion so it scales up during combat.

If your RI is below an enemy's DR then your damage will mostly be negated. Also, you don't need RI scaling, just fixed, whereas crit and power are very useful when they scale up.

Edit: the only time you should have armor pen on a companion is if you're using an augment pet or ioun stone as it then doesn't matter.

@shanx989#1017 adding 2.5k is appx an extra 25% RI taking you to -75% which is a waste as anything over 60% is unnecessary so you're wasting stats that could go to crit or power.

crazycreol · August 2016

Quick question. Are there any stats that would benefit from being over 60 % ?
TIA

mrrkmiller · August 2016

6000 is the magic number. You should be able to get this without your companion. What level are you and how many artifacts and boons do you have? I think you may not have evolved enough. Armor pent comes easy like they said once you hit 70.

shanx989 · August 2016

On my companion I don't stack armor pen but your forgetting they have base stats.

my fire Archion base armor pen is 800. I've stacked power and crit on him which are 4.9k power and 1.8k crit.

regarding not having 60% on first hit..
..only 1 boss has 60% requirement which is Timat and only a few mobs have 55% like giants and few dragons.

How many times you fight those ? So why not use it for power which has no dimensions returns or up your recovery etc.

mebengalsfan · August 2016

I'm playing as a DC and my RI is around 40%. Since I'm mainly a healer, for me that is more than enough. I know if I played as a DPS my RI would be at 60% just from my stats. My companion would be focused on Power, Crit, and anything else that will boost other stats that would make me a better DPS.

cscriv79 · August 2016

You definitely want that AP on first hit if you are using lashing blade in stealth for your shadow of demise.

neophyte1983 · August 2016

Im 70 along time and have over 2k item lvl. Have the armored worg that give me 1000 crit and 1000 arm pen. And have a black dragon ioun stone with bondings

armadeonx · August 2016

Some barbarians in IWD are at 55% too, dungeon bosses, many enemies in the SH once your guild scales up etc.

But as cscriv is suggesting, if you depend on a big hit lead skill to open combat with, you need your Arp already high enough. Not to mention if your companion falls off a ledge or something & needs to be resummoned - then you're really in trouble as you can't re-summon in combat - and yes I have seen that happen.

It's also illogical to have a fixed combat stat below par at any stage of a fight, especially if it seriously negates your opening strikes.

Fixed arp, scaling power & crit - it makes sense.

thefiresidecat · August 2016

eh, at a certain lower level when there isn't much to choose from for gear and various artis sometimes the best you're gonna do is stack it on your pet. ( we are a lot different from xbox.. reallly scraping for anything. we only have one lockbox as of yet and it didn't include basics) right now I am sitting at 4790 as a base stat and getting the rest from my pet. there are a few things I could do to up it but random checks my arpen is doing ok actually in battle. double refinement will change all that. there are a number of things in this market place that are just worth so much that taking a temporary hit on not having better gear makes sense for saving up for refinement day. artis are so expensive and runes so cheap that I think feeders are silly in this climate. I won't be doing that. really it's a different game right now than xbox.

armadeonx · August 2016

Ah yes I hadn't considered that you guys would still be sitting at r60 artifacts.

I had a quick look-up and for HR, a combination of dusk & elven armor, 2 x rings of piercing, 5x rank 8 dark enchantments, 2 artis with armor pen at r60 + 700 from boons would put you at around 5500.

That'll have you at 55% which is fine unless you're eager to pick a fight with Tiamat

thefiresidecat · August 2016

like I said, for now I'm good. LOL. I go in and am at 60 very quickly. Tiamat is pretty much unbeatable atm. very few people even at 2500 yet. no such thing as pugging it. CN is probably doable with the right team but borderline. LOL. everyone is pretty much farming TOS kessels and ELOL (it's broken but if you go in as a 2500-3000 il team you're ok) the tone of the game will change on the 1st for double refinement I think. we reallly really need another lockbox. resurgence would be good. I'd like two (different lockboxes) at a time to drop. we are in desperate desperate need of content both gadget and actual dungeons.

so much is broken.. so very very broken.. I'm sure they'll fix it though. I'm thinking they were all focused on the pc drop of this week. I'm not sure why they haven't given us another lockbox yet though. ( as an example of how different things are. I just sold a lostmauth necklace for 1.3 mil)

armadeonx · August 2016

wow lol xD I see what you mean about making AD!

thefiresidecat · August 2016

yeah my full intent was to wear it but then I saw how much it was and I know how often they drop... I was like naw. set can wait. get on levelling up jewlery and go with that double arpen necklace for now.

cscriv79 · August 2016

They should have started PS4 in mod 6 then cought up with Xbox, that way ppl would have been able to easy into newer content and got benefits of older lockboxes.

But I would still have all my AP on my character whether it is from my armour or from a few dark enchantments from tradebar store to get me to that great 60% without a pet.

I still use an augment pet anyway so going for rank 10+ bondings is something I will not chase for something that dies so often.
(they are still looking into removing the bondings effect still working after a pet dies)

armadeonx · August 2016

You know, I forgot something - the epic White Tiger mount gives 2k armor pen, funny I forgot that as I have it...

thefiresidecat · August 2016

cscriv79 said:
They should have started PS4 in mod 6 then cought up with Xbox, that way ppl would have been able to easy into newer content and got benefits of older lockboxes.

But I would still have all my AP on my character whether it is from my armour or from a few dark enchantments from tradebar store to get me to that great 60% without a pet.

I still use an augment pet anyway so going for rank 10+ bondings is something I will not chase for something that dies so often.
(they are still looking into removing the bondings effect still working after a pet dies)

^this... they really shouldn't have blasted it on everyone at once. it's too much. (with too little)

as far as the rest though. I"m not going to go out of my way to have something that's going to cost me a ton that's going to be fixed in a couple weeks time. growing pains as it were. yeah, for the moment it's not perfect, (99.9 % of the player base isn't near it) but oh well. come double refinement I'll probably have too much. lol. so will everyone once they get their artis taken care of.
it's not worth buying a mount that I'll never use again after two weeks or a ioun stone that I won't use after that. I"m not worried about them changing bondings if they do change it beyond the change coming up that everyone knows about it won't be til xmas at least. by then I"ll have had my moneys worth out of them.

and I'd give that advice to anyone. why would you spend a ton of money on something that is so temporarily a problem?

armor penetration and crit severity

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