CW or SW highest dps?

superxmario128 · August 2016

I want to make a wizard type dragon (whenever that race is released separately) but i wanna know which class deals the most damage between the two.
This is mainly a question for those that have played both or play serious end game with one or the other.

emoxredmeption · August 2016

No idea what SW means :P But for the CW if i'm not on auto pilot mode and i can deal between 3.7 to 4 million damage. I've only reached level 70 so i haven't got great gear but i'm heavily depended on crits.

onewingedmenace · August 2016

I play SW and I usually outDPS other CW's in dungeons and skirmishes, the only class that seems to give me a run for my money is GWF

reefriednunt · August 2016

SW

stuntzeroiii · August 2016

CW isn't about damage. It's about controlling mobs. If you want DPS go SW.

emoxredmeption · August 2016

stuntzeroiii said:
CW isn't about damage. It's about controlling mobs. If you want DPS go SW.

I'll have to disagree with you there. CW is about damage and controlling mobs. SW doesn't come close to the amount of damage a CW can dish out.

chimerax · August 2016

emoxredmeption said:

stuntzeroiii said:
CW isn't about damage. It's about controlling mobs. If you want DPS go SW.
I'll have to disagree with you there. CW is about damage and controlling mobs. SW doesn't come close to the amount of damage a CW can dish out.

Then you are playing with the wrong SWs

zammy · August 2016

If an SW is currently being beaten by a CW then the SW is doing something seriously wrong. A good SW will blow any CW out of the water. There are class reworks on the way due to the massive damage spikes a SW can do.

emoxredmeption · August 2016

chimerax said:

emoxredmeption said:

stuntzeroiii said:
CW isn't about damage. It's about controlling mobs. If you want DPS go SW.
I'll have to disagree with you there. CW is about damage and controlling mobs. SW doesn't come close to the amount of damage a CW can dish out.
Then you are playing with the wrong SWs

I think i just understand my CW better than most is all. People are still figuring out their builds for the best output.

mebengalsfan · August 2016

emoxredmeption said:

chimerax said:

emoxredmeption said:

stuntzeroiii said:
CW isn't about damage. It's about controlling mobs. If you want DPS go SW.
I'll have to disagree with you there. CW is about damage and controlling mobs. SW doesn't come close to the amount of damage a CW can dish out.
Then you are playing with the wrong SWs

I think i just understand my CW better than most is all. People are still figuring out their builds for the best output.

If you are a SW and using the Damnation build you are simply using bugs to get top numbers. Sorry but that is the truth.

IMO a CW is a better all around DPS than a SW. One simple fact, controlling ability. A SW is a DPS and Healer, but has limited controlling abilities. The CW is not all about damage but also about helping the group with its ability to control the ads.

If you want to really challenge yourself if you are a SW class, play temptation build and try to heal and DPS. A lot more skill required than relying on a bugged pet to do the damage for you.

emoxredmeption · August 2016

mebengalsfan#9264 said:

emoxredmeption said:

chimerax said:

emoxredmeption said:

stuntzeroiii said:
CW isn't about damage. It's about controlling mobs. If you want DPS go SW.
I'll have to disagree with you there. CW is about damage and controlling mobs. SW doesn't come close to the amount of damage a CW can dish out.
Then you are playing with the wrong SWs

I think i just understand my CW better than most is all. People are still figuring out their builds for the best output.
If you are a SW and using the Damnation build you are simply using bugs to get top numbers. Sorry but that is the truth.

IMO a CW is a better all around DPS than a SW. One simple fact, controlling ability. A SW is a DPS and Healer, but has limited controlling abilities. The CW is not all about damage but also about helping the group with its ability to control the ads.

If you want to really challenge yourself if you are a SW class, play temptation build and try to heal and DPS. A lot more skill required than relying on a bugged pet to do the damage for you.

I don't use any kind of bugs. Never knew there were any.

While i do deal a lot of damage i do also control the mobs. From what i've seen, the CW is best DPS so far imo.

drathmor · August 2016

this as in every game is more about player skill than the class being played

with in class limits of course

mebengalsfan · August 2016

drathmor#2709 said:
this as in every game is more about player skill than the class being played

with in class limits of course

LMAO....

You and I both know that there is always one or two class where no skill is required to be a good DPS. SW is that in this game when playing the damnation build.

Now if a players is a DC and tops the chart, that player has skill; why, because DC has the lowest weapon damage out of all classes and that equates to less damage when using powers. DC damage is all about DoTs, so burst powers will tend to beat it regularly unless damagers in content are simply that bad.

I go in knowing I will be buffing, debuffing and healing the group. I never expect myself to be #1 in damage and if I am, DPS are not pulling their weight.

shontsu · August 2016

My assumption is that the question has been asked because the OP wants to play the class with the most DPS, so my concern would be the Mod 10 rebalance will probably change all that (at least according to what I'm reading on the SW feedback thread). No idea when Mod 10 is coming to PS4 though.

animereaper40 · August 2016

shontsu said:
My assumption is that the question has been asked because the OP wants to play the class with the most DPS, so my concern would be the Mod 10 rebalance will probably change all that (at least according to what I'm reading on the SW feedback thread). No idea when Mod 10 is coming to PS4 though.

ppl think sw getting a nerf but its not on the damage more of a buff then a nerf.people on the pc had been on the preview server testing it out and sw still hits top dps one of the sw i watch (fernu) hit 350mil damage in one of the new dungeon runs so not sure what they did, most of the changes was about the pet and the broken/bugged mechanics will post a video on preview 10 on sw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKwZz7GfH3g

l3igtyme · August 2016

Nothing against that guy, but you can't really compare when in the video the only other dps was also a SW, while there was a DC, OP, and GF. That video was less about showing the damage of SW and more of the lack of total team damage.

derio · August 2016

Cw is the best because it does damage and helps with cc. When tanking I always prefer a CW over a SW.

animereaper40 · August 2016

cw has nothing on sw in dps sw will HAMSTER on cw

mebengalsfan · August 2016

animereaper40#6124 said:
cw has nothing on sw in dps sw will **** on cw

SW is mostly single target hit hitting damage. There are some group damage but it starts to get murky.

CW is a designed for group of adds, allowing it to produce very good numbers on multi targets.

Tanks and healers will want a CW over a SW due to how a CW is able to control ads whereas the SW is purely on the damage side.

Both are good and can produce good damage.

Now if you are a CW or SW and get beat by a DC you should consider playing another class. I state this with confidence as DC have the lowest damage in the game and if you are getting beat by a DC than you are not doing your job in a group, especially if that DC is using only healing spells.

malfunction3000 · August 2016

CW is more useful than an SW for sure. I don't know which can deal more damage (SW for sure I'm guessing), but I know that the CW can handle crowds better than an SW. SW can easily be replaced by other damage dealing classes. Not saying this because I love the CW or anything (honestly I hate how CW's are squishy which makes me not want to play him) but that's just a fact

drathmor · August 2016

mebengalsfan#9264 said:

drathmor#2709 said:
this as in every game is more about player skill than the class being played

with in class limits of course
LMAO....

You and I both know that there is always one or two class where no skill is required to be a good DPS. SW is that in this game when playing the damnation build.

Now if a players is a DC and tops the chart, that player has skill; why, because DC has the lowest weapon damage out of all classes and that equates to less damage when using powers. DC damage is all about DoTs, so burst powers will tend to beat it regularly unless damagers in content are simply that bad.

I go in knowing I will be buffing, debuffing and healing the group. I never expect myself to be #1 in damage and if I am, DPS are not pulling their weight.

i feel the same way when im tanking but it happens way more than it should that im on top of the charts and i know Paladin arent even a DPS class. this as in most games the majority of people thinking they are DPS sucks, hence why i said the skill of the player matters way more than the class.

i will say it has happened way less since i switched to protection from devotion but it does still happen I think the healing side puts up better numbers than the tanking side the powers just work better together

superxmario128 · August 2016

I see that there are pros and cons to both so it's gonna be a hard choice. I will have to look at some end game vids for both classes or just get a extra character slot and use them both to see which i like more overall. While i do want to deal a lot of damage since i don't really play DPS as much in these games (i'm usually a healer) being able to control lots of mobs dealing a good amount of damage to them instead of one target also seems fun

animereaper40 · August 2016

i tried to make both but when you have 3 lvl 70's you quite dont wana make another lol

rikudourygell · August 2016

I can't do necrotic damage as a scourge warlock fury build, just became lvl 60 and most of my feats don't activate besause of that can somebody help me?

zorjax · August 2016

I play a SW, now i am only lvl 56 and play soul-binder fury spec and tear stuff apart. every run i have don i beat cw and gwf. as much as i understand that cw can control mobs. the sw has aoe attacks as well dreadtheft fireblast and killing flames turns aoe as well. my suggestion play both and find out what works best for you. i LOVE my SW and will continue playing it for a long time

chadworth66 · September 2016

SW damnation build. The soil puppet is bugged. Clear castle never bosses in less then an a minute with a buff gf, buff DC, buff paladin and 2 2k ilvl sws.

urabask · September 2016

chadworth66 said:
SW damnation build. The soil puppet is bugged. Clear castle never bosses in less then an a minute with a buff gf, buff DC, buff paladin and 2 2k ilvl sws.

This gets fixed in mod 10. I've seen a lot of SWs complaining about their class underperforming but that could just be them being used to jumping in a party with a GF and having things melt.

CW or SW highest dps?

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