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rdh013rdh013 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 30 Arc User
So the title says it all, i pugged Castle Never and ended up with a group that dished out such high amount of dps that Orcus was killed in 1 or maybe 2 seconds. The whole run was actually like that.
Was it legit damage or what was it? If yes then there is seriously something wrong with the game at the moment.
The group consisted out of cw,sw,dc,gf and me a gwf. With buffs/debuffs from gf and dc you can do a lot more damage i know, but melting Orcus in 1 second? Is there something i don't know about in this game?

If you have a team with certain classes and their combination of powers, and you are fully geared out with itemlevel 4.2k, are you able to push out this dps so you can kill Orcus in 1 second?
What's the fun and challenge in doing so anyways?
How boring is it that you literally kill stuff so fast they didn't even had the chance to move?

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  • mmm1001mmm1001 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 497 Arc User
    You definitely don't need IL 4k+ to do this.
    In your case it was probably SW who did it, but it is doable by any team of GF/DC+3xDPS 3k+ who knows how to use their class.
    Anyway this SW "ability" will probably go out in just 3 days (mod 10)
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  • rdh013rdh013 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 30 Arc User
    edited August 2016
    mmm1001 said:

    this SW "ability" will probably go out in just 3 days

    And what is this "ability" that let them do this amount of damage?
    If this will be history in mod 10 you say it's still possible to kill Orcus in 1 or 2 seconds?
    And most players have no problem with this?
    I mean i can remember this big discussion about the pally's bubble being to overpowered and the game not challenging anymore, but isn't this the same? Maybe it's time for t3 or maybe even t4 dungeons, we are missing so many already? Then these people can have a challenge too. I dunno maybe i'm just a different player.
    What's the use in nerfing the bubble, fixing the lostmauth's set, fixing the scourge and all that if you still can melt Orcus in a few seconds?


  • masterogamasteroga Member Posts: 474 Arc User
    The ability is Killing Flames, when it's feated with Murderous Flames. There's also a glitchy weapon enchantment out too (that also gets fixed next mod), that allows for any DPS to act pretty much like MF. Both of these bugs are now publicly listed on official ARC pages...by ARC themselves, so I don't think they're off the table to be talked about anymore.
  • rdh013rdh013 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 30 Arc User
    Ok thanks for the info. I'm going to check out the patch notes for mod 10.
  • urabaskurabask Member Posts: 2,923 Arc User
    edited August 2016
    rdh013 said:

    mmm1001 said:

    this SW "ability" will probably go out in just 3 days

    And what is this "ability" that let them do this amount of damage?
    If this will be history in mod 10 you say it's still possible to kill Orcus in 1 or 2 seconds?
    And most players have no problem with this?
    I mean i can remember this big discussion about the pally's bubble being to overpowered and the game not challenging anymore, but isn't this the same? Maybe it's time for t3 or maybe even t4 dungeons, we are missing so many already? Then these people can have a challenge too. I dunno maybe i'm just a different player.
    What's the use in nerfing the bubble, fixing the lostmauth's set, fixing the scourge and all that if you still can melt Orcus in a few seconds?



    You're really out of the loop; they're introducing the first T3 dungeon in mod 10. Virtually everything that lets parties melt bosses that fast is getting nerfed or fixed. If they left lolset and bubble un-nerfed there would be no point in the fixes/nerfs they're doing in mod 10. Most of these nerfs/fixes took so long because they came with the balance passes on HR, SW and GF. Not to say that overgeared parties won't continue to melt bosses. There are still a lot of things that need to be addressed before we get to that point.
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  • thefabricantthefabricant Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 5,248 Arc User
    edited August 2016
    Oh hey, you the guy that queued into me and yes, the dps was legit. At least, I consider my ice knife 100% legit. I couldn't find 2 people, so my party random queued with 3 for lols.
  • mmm1001mmm1001 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 497 Arc User
    Technically, Pally can still keep "buble" up 100%, I can with my pally, It is just not so much fun anymore :)
    Anyway. I think you are forgetting something - dungeons are supposed to be playable by 2k+ IL players. 4K IL player does ~ 10x more damage that 2k IL player (if they both know what they are doing).
  • oldbaldyoneoldbaldyone Member Posts: 1,840 Arc User
    This is the sort of stuff that happens when you have the bright idea to "uncap" stats. :)

    Diminished Returns or a hard cap on stats would solve this problem entirely.
  • tieashametieashame Member Posts: 25 Arc User
    @rdh013 Hun, you were running with thefabricant and 2 of his crew, if there would of been 4 of them it would of taken less than 1 second for Orcus. I am in the same Guild as he and I won't run dungeons with him because of me being embarrassed of the damage dealt at the end pop-up. *fades into a futuristic skit in my head* Orcus dies and I can't even get a hit on him, pop-up..
    Player 1 - 164,256,892
    Player 2 - 164,216,523
    Player 3 - 164,209,985
    Player 4 - 164,205,689
    Me - 10,256
    Exaggeration I know but still! LOL or is it..... o:)
  • fernuufernuu Member Posts: 453 Arc User
    edited August 2016
    @rdh013 My bad, sorry mate, won't happen again in ca. 4 days :P
    https://youtube.com/c/FernuStormborn

    Mod 10:
    [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Killing Flames deals 16636893 (1009292) Fire Damage to Ethraniev Marrowslake.

    Mod 9:
    [Combat (Self)] Your Murderous Flames deals 376274433 (18876929) Fire Damage to Red Tiamat Head.
  • kemnimtarkaskemnimtarkas Member Posts: 838 Arc User
    edited August 2016
    mmm1001 said:

    You definitely don't need IL 4k+ to do this.
    In your case it was probably SW who did it, but it is doable by any team of GF/DC+3xDPS 3k+ who knows how to use their class.
    Anyway this SW "ability" will probably go out in just 3 days (mod 10)

    And don't forget they're nerfing ITF and Anvil of Doom for the GF's at the same time.
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