No AP GAIN from items (all classes)

alliera7311 · June 2016

Currently we are not getting Action Point Gain from Artifact Bonus stats, insignias, and jewel reinforcement kits. Only things that work are recovery, boons, and class buffs. Many of you have paid good amount of AD to gain these bonuses. Here is a video of what I mean. https://1drv.ms/v/s!AhauZ45geKvtgwjtEUPXcENM33Bo

kuero21 · June 2016

I posted about this months ago... and the devs completely ignored me.

alliera7311 · June 2016

I told Andy too and he responded so we will see.

satniteeduardo · June 2016

***Update the statement I made below is wrong. I miss out on AP gain % even though the items add to the numerical stat.

~~I get AP gain from jewel reinforcement kits. I don't know about other items as I have not thoroughly checked but will do tonight.~~

masteroga · June 2016

How was this tested? Video doesn't work for me......

alliera7311 · June 2016

Go into your character sheet look at the Action Point Gain Stat percentage vaule. Go down to offensive and healing look at Action Point Gain there you will see that the Action Point Gain Stat pertcentage isn't there from the above category I told you to look at. You will only see what you get from Recovery and your Boons if you have them. Extra Action feat doesn't work either. The offensive and healing section is what is actually what's being applied to you it's the total of everything.

satniteeduardo · June 2016

I think the point being made by Masteroga is all we are looking at is numbers on a page. It is possible we do get the actual increased AP gain but the stat sheet does not reflect that in the %.

From the stat sheet point of view I have looked at a couple of items.

1. I can remove insignia that have AP gain. That will reduce my AP gain number but the AP gain % does not change.
2. I have a green flame sprite with an active bonus of 1% AP gain and a blue ice sprite with 1.5% AP gain. By switching them between idle and active I can say that both add 1.1% to the AP gain % stat (not the advertised 1% and 1.5%).

Whilst it is possible the stat sheet is wrong and that the actual AP gain is correct it is incredibly frustrating not knowing as I am one of the few not giving up on my bubble Pally just yet but I need to know whether I will get AP gain if I invest in the stat.

alliera7311 · June 2016

I notice no difference in the time test Iv conducted of the same encounter powers with ap gain bonus stats and without. Results were the same. It needs investigated by the devs and it would be nice to have a moderater comment on this or a admin. Instead of hiding in the shadows.

sundance777 · June 2016

I have suspicion that the character stats display is often not displaying or calculating things correctly. For instance, I frequently have different values for DEX even tho I don't (knowingly) do anything to change my DEX, it alternates between displaying 29 or 28 and I have not yet found a reason. I will add up my AP gain % tonight, I think at least on my toon that is adds up correctly.

hickster · June 2016

Campfire buff may be the reason for the change in DEX

mightyeriksson · June 2016

sundance777 said:
I have suspicion that the character stats display is often not displaying or calculating things correctly. For instance, I frequently have different values for DEX even tho I don't (knowingly) do anything to change my DEX, it alternates between displaying 29 or 28 and I have not yet found a reason. I will add up my AP gain % tonight, I think at least on my toon that is adds up correctly.

Campfire buff will give you +1 to (main only?) ability-scores for a few minutes, might be that?

sundance777 · June 2016

Maybe, I don't tend to go to campfires, but I will check that out, maybe that's all it is.

alliera7311 · June 2016

It's the camp fire. Which not to be rude doesn't relate to this at all. I do agree that certain stats are not displayed correctly though.

kuero21 · June 2016

Campfire buff increaeses all stats by +1 for 15 minutes. I think the tree of elemental blah blah also counts as a campfire.

sundance777 · June 2016

Yeah, that was my issue with DEX, I didn't realize you got the campfire buff from hanging around places other than a campfire. And my AP stats have the same issue, I have 7.9% from recovery and 4% for AP gain but the total is only 7.9%.

crimsonlightning · July 2016

Although it may not display numerically there is the possibility that the proper stat augmentation is applied. I'm only saying it's a possibility. The probability is that it's broken.

I have no testing or research to contribute but I will say this: There is a reason I don't believe in trying to boost up my Combat Advantage by slotting the Blink Dog and/or Intellect Devourer, that reasoning is similar to this topic. The additional Combat Advantage / Combat Advantage Damage allegedly granted by these companions is not represented statistically anywhere. You have such parameters as 'Combat Advantage' and 'Combat Advantage Damage', however equipping these companions individually or as a pair has absolutely no effect on either of these parameters which are both represented in ration and therefore *should* be then augmented if bonus percentages are added to them.

You could go test to see if it's simply not shown statistically but is in fact applied regardless. I'm not going to do that but if someone does, I think it'd be safe to assume that the result would be mirrored in this case as well.

pr3stigex · July 2016

Its probably like vorpal not showing up on crit severity. Its implied but not represented.

davidagaldo · July 2016

I may be off but why should the crit appear since it is activated by the main hand in combat?

Sorry @alliera7311

Back on topic.

alliera7311 · July 2016

I don't think so. I don't notice any change in my action points. Still takes the same amount of time with or without the stats.

crysta11ine · August 2016

Did anyone do further testing on this?

sicklikeflu · August 2016

I can confirm AP reinforcement kits do not work. They add a number in your stats, but it doesn't actually change the percentage.
Best way I could think of to test was 4 items with major kits. Remove them, pop devoted sigil, use timer on iPad to count until daily full. Equip reinforced items, pop devoted sigil, count until daily full.
We're not talking about a lot of points, so the difference would be minimal, and maybe the margin of error for my test is greater than the potential gain, but I was seeing the same (whole) numbers in terms of time taken to gain full ap.

michela123 · August 2016

I play on PC. The percentage isn't shown in the character sheet, but I 100% confirm that it works. Actually, the AP Gain percentage shown in the Offensive and Healing section contains several mistakes. The difference is minimal, but we can easily test it with ACT on preview server.

crysta11ine · August 2016

Will add that testing with a DC sigil is not correct and would certainly show nothing is working

No AP GAIN from items (all classes)

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