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Dragonborn and Champion of the North Packs Are Worth its value!

To those who are considering either pack I will state that the more character slots you have and the more characters you play these packs are worth their values.

Let me start off with the Champion of the North pack.

You get 2 things right away that can be used on all characters on the account that makes this pack worth its value.

1) Purple mount
2) Purple companion

Both can be claimed on all characters. If you play 3 characters these 2 items cover the $60 cost you have to pay for the pack.

Next up is the Dragonborn Pack.

This pack includes some nice starting equipment, I would call it OP as it really boost your stats. Also, you get IMO, the best race. The last thing is the bag with the pack can be used on all characters on the account.

If I had to pick between the two I would start off with the champion pack for the purple mount and companion. Than I would go back and get the Dragonborn pack.

I have both already and have no regrets about these purchases. I wanted to let other know that the cost of the packs are justified given how much mounts, companions and bags can cost.

To sum it up, with 5 character slot if I purchased items equal to the level of the items in the packs I would have spent much more than $135.

Comments

  • onewingedmenace#5432 onewingedmenace Member Posts: 148 Arc User
    I'll pass, prices are way too steep for me. Glad you're getting your moneys worth though.
  • antonislakantonislak Member Posts: 42 Arc User
    I 'll pass as well, maybe those packs could be bundled with a little zen or something otherwise i can't see the value in this except if u love drow or dragonborn more than anything, early access pack on the contrary had a lot of value for 20 bucks you got a lot of helpfull stuff plus 1 week, that was decent.
  • deadcellraamdeadcellraam Member Posts: 49 Arc User
    I enjoyed them on the Xbox, but there's no way I'm buying them again.
  • gjrgamergjrgamer Member Posts: 100 Arc User
    I picked up both at the beginning of the headstart and don't regret it. :)

    Evaluating the two, I feel like I have gotten much more value out of the Dragonborn pack - the bag and race alone make this a very worthwhile purchase. As mentioned by the op, the North pack is also good value for the purple mount (which also packs a lovely +2000 power bonus). The companion, whilst purple, doesn't seem that good unless you can take a lot of advantage of the "prone" condition. I certainly prefer the Mercenary companion from the Heirloom pack over the Panther from the North pack. The Menzo Drow are also fairly lacklustre especially in comparison to both normal drow and dragonborn, but if you like the extra facial tatoos they do have that going for them.

    If I had to pick fresh, I think the Dragonborn pack and the Heirloom pack offer the most bang for your initial buck. But as noted, the purple mount is a good reason to go North pack - unless you aim for a normal Zen purple mount instead.
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  • jzhnutzjzhnutz Member Posts: 10 Arc User
    I picked them both up... glad I did!
    PSN - jzhnutz

    GM - House Stargaryen (PS4 Guild)
  • drathmor#2709 drathmor Member Posts: 113 Arc User
    does anyone know if the Astral Deva pack is redeemable on all characters or just one
  • mebengalsfan#9264 mebengalsfan Member Posts: 3,169 Arc User

    I'll pass, prices are way too steep for me. Glad you're getting your moneys worth though.

    They do seem a bit steep but if you take items and bought them from the MP per each character than it adds up.

    I have 6 slots for characters. At $10 for a companion that is $60 for companions. With mounts they are $25 per an account. Just those surpass the $60 value for Champion of the North.

    does anyone know if the Astral Deva pack is redeemable on all characters or just one

    From what I have heard it is a single redeemable item. Nice thing is if you get the blue one you can use AD to increase its rank.
  • mebengalsfan#9264 mebengalsfan Member Posts: 3,169 Arc User
    edited July 2016
    I want to see the rest of the packs added to the PS Store ASAP.
  • rpgplayerrpgplayer Member Posts: 16 Arc User
    i think im gonna wait for a sale someday for those packs, too pricy for me.
    Don't be fooled by my avatar, im a guy >_>.
  • ronrac2ronrac2 Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    > @deadcellraam said:
    > I enjoyed them on the Xbox, but there's no way I'm buying them again.

    Same here, no way am l going to buy the Dragonborn pack that l already have on XBox again. I don't get why they won't let us transfer characters over???
  • drathmor#2709 drathmor Member Posts: 113 Arc User
    > @rpgplayer said:
    > i think im gonna wait for a sale someday for those packs, too pricy for me.

    same here buddy i really want the dragonborn pack but no way im payin those prices now if it were to go on sale or i could get one of those discount items for it then we would be talking
  • drathmor#2709 drathmor Member Posts: 113 Arc User
    > @ronrac2 said:
    > > @deadcellraam said:
    > > I enjoyed them on the Xbox, but there's no way I'm buying them again.
    >
    > Same here, no way am l going to buy the Dragonborn pack that l already have on XBox again. I don't get why they won't let us transfer characters over???

    while im sure it sucks hard not being able to transfer account purchases over. its really a good thing people cant transfer characters as it would break the exsperiance for new players if people could just transfer a high lvl geared toon to the new system.
  • mebengalsfan#9264 mebengalsfan Member Posts: 3,169 Arc User

    > @ronrac2 said:

    > > @deadcellraam said:

    > > I enjoyed them on the Xbox, but there's no way I'm buying them again.

    >

    > Same here, no way am l going to buy the Dragonborn pack that l already have on XBox again. I don't get why they won't let us transfer characters over???



    while im sure it sucks hard not being able to transfer account purchases over. its really a good thing people cant transfer characters as it would break the exsperiance for new players if people could just transfer a high lvl geared toon to the new system.

    The funny thing is if you have the bars to get two pieces of the dust set and spend the other $50 get the other 2 pieces that player is already well equipped. Add to it AD gained from the trade house and/or through dungeons and you could have a well equipped player by the time they hit level 70 without much effort or challenge. The thing is though, players who do that may have good gear but just like in DCUO said players will lack stats from not having boons or good stones. This means lower stats. At max gear going back and running content to get boons and stones will be easier but I'm old school grind it out player.

    It is why I am close to getting my second boon. I was in a dungeon with a player that had over 2500 IL and he had zero boon and had no idea how to get them. Here I was at level 50 with 1 and almost a 2nd.

    I think the packs should be transferable but not the characters. Even if the servers were merged, chances are you would not be able to use your PC character on a console. Some games allow that and others do not. As a true F2P game I would state it would not allow that, because this game needs our money in the form of micro transations to keep this ship up and running. I'm fine spending money on a game if I like it. And boy am I liking this game.

    I got my money worth in all the packs. I will state that for $60 the Champion of the North is the best bang for the bucks as it truly gives you its value back with just 3 character slots with a mount and comapnions along with other nice bonuses.

    I am an avid D&D player and you know I play many alts and play as many powers/roles as possible from my time on DCUO, With that said, it is why I bought all the packages that contain a race and will buy all packs that have a new race with it, if they add a new class with a pack I would buy that too.

    I just wish if you had VIP it would give you access to all races, not all other items in the pack, just the races. I think that would be a fair way to allow players to play a Dragonborn, but I can see why they are not doing that, lost of revenue.

    I will be honest here though. I liked that I could use +2 in two skill points as I saw fit and I gained +5% to my healing and +3% in crit and power stats. Those are big boost, might not seem like a lot but when you add 2K power from a pet and than power increase from gear and stone it adds up. Also, any increase in % from skill points in Charimsa I believe or maybe Wisdom or is it both, and that comes stats that benefit a cleric, which I am. So for someone who wanted to play a cleric day 1 and wanted to play as a dragonborn and max his stats out it only made sense for me to buy the dragonborn pack, cost has never been a big issue for me as long as I enjoy the game. The other thing is I get 30 additional inventory slots, a level 96 artifact at level 4, and a ring that increases in level as I increase in level on all characters adds value to the pack.

    To put simply, the more characters you play the more valuable the packs become. It is why I bought them.

    drathmor can vouch for me that I will more than likely have 6 characters I will play in this game.
  • drathmor#2709 drathmor Member Posts: 113 Arc User

    > @ronrac2 said:

    > > @deadcellraam said:

    > > I enjoyed them on the Xbox, but there's no way I'm buying them again.

    >

    > Same here, no way am l going to buy the Dragonborn pack that l already have on XBox again. I don't get why they won't let us transfer characters over???



    while im sure it sucks hard not being able to transfer account purchases over. its really a good thing people cant transfer characters as it would break the exsperiance for new players if people could just transfer a high lvl geared toon to the new system.

    The funny thing is if you have the bars to get two pieces of the dust set and spend the other $50 get the other 2 pieces that player is already well equipped. Add to it AD gained from the trade house and/or through dungeons and you could have a well equipped player by the time they hit level 70 without much effort or challenge. The thing is though, players who do that may have good gear but just like in DCUO said players will lack stats from not having boons or good stones. This means lower stats. At max gear going back and running content to get boons and stones will be easier but I'm old school grind it out player.

    It is why I am close to getting my second boon. I was in a dungeon with a player that had over 2500 IL and he had zero boon and had no idea how to get them. Here I was at level 50 with 1 and almost a 2nd.

    I think the packs should be transferable but not the characters. Even if the servers were merged, chances are you would not be able to use your PC character on a console. Some games allow that and others do not. As a true F2P game I would state it would not allow that, because this game needs our money in the form of micro transations to keep this ship up and running. I'm fine spending money on a game if I like it. And boy am I liking this game.

    I got my money worth in all the packs. I will state that for $60 the Champion of the North is the best bang for the bucks as it truly gives you its value back with just 3 character slots with a mount and comapnions along with other nice bonuses.

    I am an avid D&D player and you know I play many alts and play as many powers/roles as possible from my time on DCUO, With that said, it is why I bought all the packages that contain a race and will buy all packs that have a new race with it, if they add a new class with a pack I would buy that too.

    I just wish if you had VIP it would give you access to all races, not all other items in the pack, just the races. I think that would be a fair way to allow players to play a Dragonborn, but I can see why they are not doing that, lost of revenue.

    I will be honest here though. I liked that I could use +2 in two skill points as I saw fit and I gained +5% to my healing and +3% in crit and power stats. Those are big boost, might not seem like a lot but when you add 2K power from a pet and than power increase from gear and stone it adds up. Also, any increase in % from skill points in Charimsa I believe or maybe Wisdom or is it both, and that comes stats that benefit a cleric, which I am. So for someone who wanted to play a cleric day 1 and wanted to play as a dragonborn and max his stats out it only made sense for me to buy the dragonborn pack, cost has never been a big issue for me as long as I enjoy the game. The other thing is I get 30 additional inventory slots, a level 96 artifact at level 4, and a ring that increases in level as I increase in level on all characters adds value to the pack.

    To put simply, the more characters you play the more valuable the packs become. It is why I bought them.

    drathmor can vouch for me that I will more than likely have 6 characters I will play in this game.
    yep i already have 4 around lvl 20 and 1 at 36 so im right there with you playing the multiple toons. and trust me i would love to change my pally to a dragonborn for the perks but i get paid monthly so im tapped out this go around after the stuff i have bought already in game.

    i know it would be nice for people who have played on the other systems to allow their purchases to transfer but like you said the creators want their new console money. I also agree that would be fine as long as the toons couldn't transfer..

    and i feel like im repeating my self but I too am being sucked in hard to this game hell DC had a game update last night and the last DLC for a while probably next week but im having a hard time caring. Not that ill ever totaly quit DC but it will be a while before i log into it again with out a call from friends. Neverwinter is just too good right now
  • mebengalsfan#9264 mebengalsfan Member Posts: 3,169 Arc User
    edited July 2016


    yep i already have 4 around lvl 20 and 1 at 36 so im right there with you playing the multiple toons. and trust me i would love to change my pally to a dragonborn for the perks but i get paid monthly so im tapped out this go around after the stuff i have bought already in game.

    i know it would be nice for people who have played on the other systems to allow their purchases to transfer but like you said the creators want their new console money. I also agree that would be fine as long as the toons couldn't transfer..

    and i feel like im repeating my self but I too am being sucked in hard to this game hell DC had a game update last night and the last DLC for a while probably next week but im having a hard time caring. Not that ill ever totaly quit DC but it will be a while before i log into it again with out a call from friends. Neverwinter is just too good right now

    I went onto DCUO to see who was on in my league, not to play but to recruit players to NW. I got 2 more players onto NW. One was like, this is my type of MMO and dropped $100 within 10 minutes of playing. The other has zero funds but love how the whole game is free, including end game. With the players I now have playing I can create a guild. Most are at that level 15 spot. Where as I am now at level 54. I have 4 other characters all level 1 and my daughter has a level 10 rogue on my account. I played a few different races and classes up to level 5 to see how they play and simply deleted them shortly thereafter as I am thinking that most will be a Dragonborn just because of the stat and special ability bonus the race offers. I do also like how they look. I think when I do play my next character to end game it will be my female dragon born Pally.

    After that I may play a renegade drow Ranger or Rogue, have to use dual wield weapon if you are a drow renegade like good old Dritz.

    Another class and race combo I'm considering is Tiefling Wizard.

    As for the packs if anyone is considering spending any type of money at least consider the Champion of the North pack. It is like buying a $60 game and IMO the pack has more than paid for itself once I get all of my characters to end game.
  • velforcevelforce Member Posts: 34 Arc User
    gjrgamer said:

    I picked up both at the beginning of the headstart and don't regret it. :)

    Evaluating the two, I feel like I have gotten much more value out of the Dragonborn pack - the bag and race alone make this a very worthwhile purchase. As mentioned by the op, the North pack is also good value for the purple mount (which also packs a lovely +2000 power bonus). The companion, whilst purple, doesn't seem that good unless you can take a lot of advantage of the "prone" condition. I certainly prefer the Mercenary companion from the Heirloom pack over the Panther from the North pack. The Menzo Drow are also fairly lacklustre especially in comparison to both normal drow and dragonborn, but if you like the extra facial tatoos they do have that going for them.

    If I had to pick fresh, I think the Dragonborn pack and the Heirloom pack offer the most bang for your initial buck. But as noted, the purple mount is a good reason to go North pack - unless you aim for a normal Zen purple mount instead.

    I dunno, i prefer the renegade to normal drow, i pvp a fair bit, so stopping the enemy from dealing as much damage as well likely has me biased
  • drathmor#2709 drathmor Member Posts: 113 Arc User


    yep i already have 4 around lvl 20 and 1 at 36 so im right there with you playing the multiple toons. and trust me i would love to change my pally to a dragonborn for the perks but i get paid monthly so im tapped out this go around after the stuff i have bought already in game.

    i know it would be nice for people who have played on the other systems to allow their purchases to transfer but like you said the creators want their new console money. I also agree that would be fine as long as the toons couldn't transfer..

    and i feel like im repeating my self but I too am being sucked in hard to this game hell DC had a game update last night and the last DLC for a while probably next week but im having a hard time caring. Not that ill ever totaly quit DC but it will be a while before i log into it again with out a call from friends. Neverwinter is just too good right now

    I went onto DCUO to see who was on in my league, not to play but to recruit players to NW. I got 2 more players onto NW. One was like, this is my type of MMO and dropped $100 within 10 minutes of playing. The other has zero funds but love how the whole game is free, including end game. With the players I now have playing I can create a guild. Most are at that level 15 spot. Where as I am now at level 54. I have 4 other characters all level 1 and my daughter has a level 10 rogue on my account. I played a few different races and classes up to level 5 to see how they play and simply deleted them shortly thereafter as I am thinking that most will be a Dragonborn just because of the stat and special ability bonus the race offers. I do also like how they look. I think when I do play my next character to end game it will be my female dragon born Pally.

    After that I may play a renegade drow Ranger or Rogue, have to use dual wield weapon if you are a drow renegade like good old Dritz.

    Another class and race combo I'm considering is Tiefling Wizard.

    As for the packs if anyone is considering spending any type of money at least consider the Champion of the North pack. It is like buying a $60 game and IMO the pack has more than paid for itself once I get all of my characters to end game.
    yea my whole villain league from DC are playing this now we created a league last night "The Fallen" well most of us did some people couldnt be on last night but I got most of them to convert already..
  • lewstelamon01lewstelamon01 Member Posts: 7,415 Arc User


    yep i already have 4 around lvl 20 and 1 at 36 so im right there with you playing the multiple toons. and trust me i would love to change my pally to a dragonborn for the perks but i get paid monthly so im tapped out this go around after the stuff i have bought already in game.

    i know it would be nice for people who have played on the other systems to allow their purchases to transfer but like you said the creators want their new console money. I also agree that would be fine as long as the toons couldn't transfer..

    and i feel like im repeating my self but I too am being sucked in hard to this game hell DC had a game update last night and the last DLC for a while probably next week but im having a hard time caring. Not that ill ever totaly quit DC but it will be a while before i log into it again with out a call from friends. Neverwinter is just too good right now

    I went onto DCUO to see who was on in my league, not to play but to recruit players to NW. I got 2 more players onto NW. One was like, this is my type of MMO and dropped $100 within 10 minutes of playing. The other has zero funds but love how the whole game is free, including end game. With the players I now have playing I can create a guild. Most are at that level 15 spot. Where as I am now at level 54. I have 4 other characters all level 1 and my daughter has a level 10 rogue on my account. I played a few different races and classes up to level 5 to see how they play and simply deleted them shortly thereafter as I am thinking that most will be a Dragonborn just because of the stat and special ability bonus the race offers. I do also like how they look. I think when I do play my next character to end game it will be my female dragon born Pally.

    After that I may play a renegade drow Ranger or Rogue, have to use dual wield weapon if you are a drow renegade like good old Dritz.

    Another class and race combo I'm considering is Tiefling Wizard.

    As for the packs if anyone is considering spending any type of money at least consider the Champion of the North pack. It is like buying a $60 game and IMO the pack has more than paid for itself once I get all of my characters to end game.
    And hey, NW doesn't have a history of having outages every Sunday (or so it seems).

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  • mknox5#3068 mknox5 Member Posts: 1 New User
    Is there a problkem with the deva pack it seems to be un-reedemable after purchase
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  • michharimichhari Member Posts: 2 Arc User

    Is there a problkem with the deva pack it seems to be un-reedemable after purchase

    No, it is working fine. You have to claim the Deva directly in the ZEN Market. Within the ZEN Market you should see it for free.
  • jaime4312#3760 jaime4312 Member Posts: 844 Arc User
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    I disagree with your coment about races as all classes can be good with any but there's always 1 or 2 that are optimal, for example, thiefling is the best for warlock. If you could build 2 characters with the same items and stats, the dragonborn would be outdps by the thiefling. Likewise, a half-orc is by all means superior as a great weapon fighter.
  • mebengalsfan#9264 mebengalsfan Member Posts: 3,169 Arc User

    null

    I disagree with your coment about races as all classes can be good with any but there's always 1 or 2 that are optimal, for example, thiefling is the best for warlock. If you could build 2 characters with the same items and stats, the dragonborn would be outdps by the thiefling. Likewise, a half-orc is by all means superior as a great weapon fighter.

    That is correct but that is if you are only focusing on maxing out your stats. I know in other games where some races were preferred due to players wanting to max out the toons, and I played the weaker race just fine and keep up without being destroyed.

    Dragonborn vs. Tielfing - Tielfing gets 5% more damage when an enemy health is less than 5%. Now with a Dragonborn I get a 3% increase in my crit and power.

    Tielfing will do 5% more damage 50% of the time.
    Dragonborn will get 3% increase in power and crit stat all the time. This mean more crit hits = more damage and a 3% increase in power means more damage. How much more depends on the character power.

    As for stats, both can bet +2 in Con, Cha, and Int. The difference is the other ability that Tiefling has which can help the group out. But Dragonborn get more healing in, so that is less strain on the leader and when soloing the Dragonborn Warlock will hela themselves better and may not need as many potions.

    The Dragonborn 3% in crit and power makes them viable for all classes and +2 to any stats. IMO, that makes it a very viable race for all classes. The classes that benefit the most for being Dragonborn are probably Devoted Cleric and Oathbound Paladins.

    I typically play the race I want to as I know that racial abilities provide some bonuses but those bonuses are not game changing abilities.

    For instance, look at Halfing racial abilities and it would seem to be perfect for a Guardian Fighter, but it does not mean a player playing a Drow cannot be a good Guardian Fighter or someone playing a Sun Elf or Half-Elf.

    As I stated in other games, it about player skill more than just small abilities that are granted at level 1.




  • jaime4312#3760 jaime4312 Member Posts: 844 Arc User
    null
    Wait a second, are you sure the dragonborn gets extra 3% power and crit all the time? I think the dragonborn actually has a chance to get a temporary 3% boost to those stats rather than having it all the time and in that case the thiefling would be the best choice. No, a little bit more incoming healing doesn't make much of a difference, I mean, if it was like +20% incoming healing then yeah that would be quite a significant advantage, however that's not the case.

    You just said what I did already about each class having an ideal race however I disagree about paladins, I think humans are the superior choice although not by much.
  • mebengalsfan#9264 mebengalsfan Member Posts: 3,169 Arc User

    null

    Wait a second, are you sure the dragonborn gets extra 3% power and crit all the time?



    Dragonborn have a 3% increase in power and crit all the time, it is part of their racial ability called Dragon Fury. It is why if you have the race it is recommended for Paladins and Clerics. Both races benefit due to the extra healing they do with a 3% boost in power.

    Dragonborn is recommended as a Paladin if you go the healing route as you get a boost in healing from both racial abilities.

    Tielfing do an over 5% in damage when the enemy health is at 50%, so in reality the Tielfing averages around 2.5% more damage due to their racial ability.

    Which one is better? It would all depend on how much power a player has. The more power a player has available the more damage they would do Dragonborn.

    IMO, Tiefling is great for any class where a player want to focus on damage but if you don't like how the way the race looks, chances are you won't play it.

    I keep hearing complaints in game by friends about inventory slots. I have no issues as I start off with 60 on every character.




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  • mebengalsfan#9264 mebengalsfan Member Posts: 3,169 Arc User

    I just want to day while your spending your cash on packs, I'll have ran at least 100 dungeons loads of RD and got the packs that way lmao

    You can't get these packs in the zen market. You can only buy these packs in the PSN, therefore the DB and CoN packs will require real world money. This is a way for PS to earn money as all transaction done through the PSN, Sony earns a % of the transaction. Some packs may be in the Zen MP, but others will only be in the PSN store.
  • alisi1alisi1 Member Posts: 366 Arc User
    edited July 2016
    "And hey, NW doesn't have a history of having outages every Sunday (or so it seems)."

    What about Wednesday's?
  • rudakusrudakus Member Posts: 17 Arc User
    On XBox the packs a

    I just want to day while your spending your cash on packs, I'll have ran at least 100 dungeons loads of RD and got the packs that way lmao

    You can't get these packs in the zen market. You can only buy these packs in the PSN, therefore the DB and CoN packs will require real world money. This is a way for PS to earn money as all transaction done through the PSN, Sony earns a % of the transaction. Some packs may be in the Zen MP, but others will only be in the PSN store.
    On XBox these packs were on the zen store(I believe they still are). I'm still waiting to hear if they will end up there on PS4 as well. The PSN makes the money either way as the Zen you purchase from the Astral Exchange all comes from the PSN anyway so that is not a good argument.
  • mebengalsfan#9264 mebengalsfan Member Posts: 3,169 Arc User
    rudakus said:

    On XBox the packs a

    I just want to day while your spending your cash on packs, I'll have ran at least 100 dungeons loads of RD and got the packs that way lmao

    You can't get these packs in the zen market. You can only buy these packs in the PSN, therefore the DB and CoN packs will require real world money. This is a way for PS to earn money as all transaction done through the PSN, Sony earns a % of the transaction. Some packs may be in the Zen MP, but others will only be in the PSN store.
    On XBox these packs were on the zen store(I believe they still are). I'm still waiting to hear if they will end up there on PS4 as well. The PSN makes the money either way as the Zen you purchase from the Astral Exchange all comes from the PSN anyway so that is not a good argument.
    Just because it was like that for XBox does not mean it will be like that for PSN. Different companies working with the development team with different stores.
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