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How to ballance PVP Arena (5 on 5)?

grustislavgrustislav Member Posts: 10 Arc User
in Player Feedback (PC)
Many players hate PVP Arena, because after lvl 70 there is too big difference in item level there, from 1500 to 4500.
And players with low item level are always suffering there, and so, there is no reason to go to PVP, untill you reach 3000 Item level. And that's why players with item level less, than 3000 avoid Arena and PVP at all. As for me, that is not good.
So, how can you solve the problem?
Easy! We just need an mechanism (algorithm), which will gather up equal parties to arena, counting the average general level for party.
For example, one party have players with 4200, 2000, 2500, 4000 and 2300 item levels. The average general level of this party is 15000.
So, against this party queue should gather up party with equal average general level (+/- 200 difference range), like 5 players with 3000 item level.
This way we will have more or less balanced PVP with equal chances to win for both teams. And that's how you can return many players to PVP Arena.
You can ask: what to do with pre-made parties with very high item level? Find against them as equal party, as it's possible, by making difference range more wide (from +/- 200 to +/-1000 and more). That's better anyway, than doing nothing with PVP.

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  • demonmongerdemonmonger Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 3,350 Arc User
    Item level is more complicated than that.

    Item lvl is different based on class.
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  • demonmongerdemonmonger Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 3,350 Arc User
    It also depends on what stat the person decided to increase....

    If someone pumps all power and lifesteal, vs someone who pumps all power and critical. Who do you think will win..

    now add artifacts and gear set bonus. Now who do you think will win....

    Now add mount insignia and guild boon....


    It is super complicated
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  • grustislavgrustislav Member Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited June 2016
    System, what I offer to you, is not ideal or perfect, that's for sure. But it's better, then what we have at PVP Arena 70+ now.
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  • oliboypholiboyph Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 627 Arc User
    Can be done, as long as you don't mind waiting hour for queues. Last time they implemented something like this everyone complained about the queue length.
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  • grustislavgrustislav Member Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited June 2016
    oliboyph said:

    Can be done, as long as you don't mind waiting hour for queues. Last time they implemented something like this everyone complained about the queue length.

    That's why it's better to count total item level of whole party (of all players in party). It's much more easy, espessially to gain party of random players and find equal opponent party against them. And there is no need to make many queues.
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  • oliboypholiboyph Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 627 Arc User
    edited June 2016
    grustislav said:

    oliboyph said:

    Can be done, as long as you don't mind waiting hour for queues. Last time they implemented something like this everyone complained about the queue length.

    That's why it's better to count total item level of whole party (of all players in party). It's much more easy, espessially to gain party of random players and find equal opponent party against them. And there is no need to make many queues.
    Yes, it was exactly as you said. It was not a tier system, more an algorithm that balanced both teams. It resulted in queues lasting hours, at a time when everyone was doing pvp because the strongest gears you can get if you are below 3k ilvl( T2's were super hard because of the arm pen bug) were the purple pvp gear, and you could get a free epic mount if you did enough domination matches.
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  • oliboypholiboyph Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 627 Arc User
    defiantone99 said:

    If queue times are going to be the eternal excuse to do nothing, they might as well just shut the PVP mode down now. It is on life support and fading fast. Doing nothing is not an option.

    I agree, but whichever we have implemented, we should not complain about the results. The problem at the time was that everyone wanted PVP to be more even, but then immediately started complaining about the long queues. Honestly I didn't mind either way.
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  • grustislavgrustislav Member Posts: 10 Arc User
    So, we see a lot of problems with PVP (item level ballance, rewards and so on), which demand solution.
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