Does anyone ever run gauntlgrym pvp?

timmorton · June 2016

I have queued for gauntlgrym and have had one long wait for no match. I have done this a few times and have had the same result. Does anyone run gauntlgrym and if so is there a better time to queue for it?

interlagos335i · June 2016

If u do its all the 4k premades from ur lovely noob bashing guilds that thinks it's cool to kill 2.5k gs ppl....

nickjdowe · June 2016

interlagos335i said:
If u do its all the 4k premades from ur lovely noob bashing guilds that thinks it's cool to kill 2.5k gs ppl....

This..

I jumped in one yesterday and it was all members of JHSF on one side and the other.... well you get it. My biggest problem with fighting some of these pvp guilds is the exploits. I respect anyone that made it all the way to 4K+ iLevel and have a successful pvp build. However if you are sitting at 4K and Guild Hall 16+ but you're still using exploits, drains, and Ambush rings then you're trash. Like how much of an advantage do you need to pug smash 2500 iLevel players? It's killing what little pvp community we have left.

armadeonx · June 2016

The thing I find really funny is that because the numbers have seriously declined in L70 pvp, these same guilds have taken to playing 60-69 in premades with characters artificially held below 70 but with artifacts and enchantments way above that which everyone else has.

It's like they have no clue they are further destroying the pvp playerbase by putting off new players before they even reach 70. They are signalling their own demise as pvp guilds by destroying the very thing they focus on.

xpaeonx · June 2016

nickjdowe said:

interlagos335i said:
If u do its all the 4k premades from ur lovely noob bashing guilds that thinks it's cool to kill 2.5k gs ppl....
This..

I jumped in one yesterday and it was all members of JHSF on one side and the other.... well you get it. My biggest problem with fighting some of these pvp guilds is the exploits. I respect anyone that made it all the way to 4K+ iLevel and have a successful pvp build. However if you are sitting at 4K and Guild Hall 16+ but you're still using exploits, drains, and Ambush rings then you're trash. Like how much of an advantage do you need to pug smash 2500 iLevel players? It's killing what little pvp community we have left.

I understand the exploits comment but do you seriously, think they que hoping for a PUG they don't. If you think they are going to start spending gold to remove their drains and then take the time to take of their rings... it wont matter they will still beat you.

I personally don't feel sorry for anyone who is going to whine about pvp, if you can't grind it out and get the gear you don't really want to pvp. I started with blue stronghold gear and a low level guild house 6 weeks ago, I grinded Domination and Seige and got a high enough IL to join a guild focused on pvp with a good guild house. So for someone who started from nothing and worked their way to have good pvp gear, i say just stop whining and work at it. Everyone wants HAMSTER just handed to them, some of you people would have never survived in another MMO, Neverwinter is about as casual as it gets while still being a great MMO.

I setup premades all the time with 3k-3.8k IL and we also get smashed by the best premades, we don't cry we just keep grinding to get better. So grind it out makes some friends build your own premade, a pvp premade of 2.5 IL with the right set of classes can easily beat most PUGS. PVE and PVP are the same in this game try going up against EDEMO with a 2.5IL group and get gold it's next to impossible. Does that mean you give up and never run it again, no you either grind it out and get silvers to get your weapons or you go grind and get your IL up so you can be in those 3k+ groups. People expect to jump into Domination once or twice a day and make progress, when you run ELOL or any other dungeon you know its going to take 100 runs to get a horn of blasting or get a Legendary ring from EDEMO dont expect PVP grind to be any different.

Oh and by the way i play maybe 2-3 hours a day on the weekdays i have a full time job its not like i sit around a do DOM all day everyday.

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timmorton · June 2016

I have no problem grinding it out to get better gear. My problem is half the time I can't even get the minimum 600 points to get glory. It would not be so bad if they gave glory no matter what, even if it is a small amount that way it wouldn't seem to be such a waste of time, especially for players who have limited playing time. I try to run 5-8 times pvp daily and only 2-4 of those times I actually get glory. I know I'm new and maybe don't have the right IL as right now I'm 2400 but that seems unfair. Is there an IL that is good to start pvp maybe I tried to early? Is there a way to earn glory faster? Do points even matter at end of match as to getting glory?

xpaeonx · June 2016

theslotharmy#3268 said:

xpaeonx#5499 said:

nickjdowe said:

interlagos335i said:
If u do its all the 4k premades from ur lovely noob bashing guilds that thinks it's cool to kill 2.5k gs ppl....
This..

I jumped in one yesterday and it was all members of JHSF on one side and the other.... well you get it. My biggest problem with fighting some of these pvp guilds is the exploits. I respect anyone that made it all the way to 4K+ iLevel and have a successful pvp build. However if you are sitting at 4K and Guild Hall 16+ but you're still using exploits, drains, and Ambush rings then you're trash. Like how much of an advantage do you need to pug smash 2500 iLevel players? It's killing what little pvp community we have left.
I understand the exploits comment but do you seriously, think they que hoping for a PUG they don't. If you think they are going to start spending gold to remove their drains and then take the time to take of their rings... it wont matter they will still beat you.

I personally don't feel sorry for anyone who is going to whine about pvp, if you can't grind it out and get the gear you don't really want to pvp.

What kind of logic is that?
I want to get pvp gear, but it's almost impossible to actually do since I seem to only get into premades,
or siege will just never come up.

Impossible is an exaggeration, get guild marks get the blue gear stronghold gear and then Grind Dom. Even in a lose you can get 100+ glory without any bonus from enchants. so let say you use 5 rank 7 glory enchants in your utility..

That's 155 per game, then lets say you win 1 in 10 games ( 1 in 10 is realistic how else would i have gotten my gear). For a win with your enchants you should at least get 300 glory. 1695 glory a day now this assumes you won't play more on the weekend so let just say you average 10 games even with playing on the weekend 10 games should take roughly 2-3 hours a day, and it will be even faster if you are losing. So it will take you 11 days to +/- to get a piece of Burning gear so in 44 days you will have your completed set 6 weeks...and if you play more on the weekends and do Seige you could probably have your lionsmane faster over that 6 weeks. So now we are saying in 6 weeks you could get a full set of Burning, now lets compare that to EDEMO and a twisted weapons set.

Lets assume you get gold every time regardless of twisted ichor it will take you a minimum of 4 weeks to have enough Demonic Ichor to get your twisted set. So really it's easier to get your pvp gear than your twisted set, on top of that it took me around 150 EDEMO runs to get my first legendary ring which equates to about 37hrs of EDEMO at 2 to 3 hrs a day .. that's 12 days for 1 ring.

The question is do you want the gear bad enough to treat PVP like you do PVE or is just something you want to dabble in.

xpaeonx · June 2016

timmorton#3368 said:
I have no problem grinding it out to get better gear. My problem is half the time I can't even get the minimum 600 points to get glory. It would not be so bad if they gave glory no matter what, even if it is a small amount that way it wouldn't seem to be such a waste of time, especially for players who have limited playing time. I try to run 5-8 times pvp daily and only 2-4 of those times I actually get glory. I know I'm new and maybe don't have the right IL as right now I'm 2400 but that seems unfair. Is there an IL that is good to start pvp maybe I tried to early? Is there a way to earn glory faster? Do points even matter at end of match as to getting glory?

You need atleast 600 points to get glory, that's 2 captures... and in my experience if your not a whiner and it's a strong pre-made like Asylum, LGPG, Defiant, The Nation... usually if you handle your beating they will let you cap for points... it's when people talk HAMSTER that they don't give you a break. You qued you knew the risk of facing a pre-made take your beat down like a man and most will let you get your points.

Sometimes to get your 2 caps you need to be aware of the map and be smart about it and organized buy an rank 1 ambush ring to help you get across the map and try and cap when the team is distracted. You can also put together a group with a paladin and a cleric and you can all sit on a point and take it pretty quickly and survive. Instead of running to 2 go straight to the closest point and cap it then spend the rest of the game trying to divide and conquer to get your 2nd cap. I'm not saying it's easy but i can tell you i have my full burning set and 2 pieces of my Lionsmaine and i have never had a horn of blasting drop in eLoL so ... hell add me and ask me to PVP i solo que all the time because i enjoy pvp and i don't care about losing i just want to compete.

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xpaeonx · June 2016

theslotharmy#3268 said:

xpaeonx#5499 said:

theslotharmy#3268 said:

xpaeonx#5499 said:

nickjdowe said:

interlagos335i said:
If u do its all the 4k premades from ur lovely noob bashing guilds that thinks it's cool to kill 2.5k gs ppl....
This..

I jumped in one yesterday and it was all members of JHSF on one side and the other.... well you get it. My biggest problem with fighting some of these pvp guilds is the exploits. I respect anyone that made it all the way to 4K+ iLevel and have a successful pvp build. However if you are sitting at 4K and Guild Hall 16+ but you're still using exploits, drains, and Ambush rings then you're trash. Like how much of an advantage do you need to pug smash 2500 iLevel players? It's killing what little pvp community we have left.
I understand the exploits comment but do you seriously, think they que hoping for a PUG they don't. If you think they are going to start spending gold to remove their drains and then take the time to take of their rings... it wont matter they will still beat you.

I personally don't feel sorry for anyone who is going to whine about pvp, if you can't grind it out and get the gear you don't really want to pvp.

What kind of logic is that?
I want to get pvp gear, but it's almost impossible to actually do since I seem to only get into premades,
or siege will just never come up.
That's 155 per game, then lets say you win 1 in 10 games ( 1 in 10 is realistic how else would i have gotten my gear). For a win with your enchants you should at least get 300 glory. 1695 glory a day now this assumes you won't play more on the weekend so let just say you average 10 games even with playing on the weekend 10 games should take roughly 2-3 hours a day, and it will be even faster if you are losing. So it will take you 11 days to +/- to get a piece of Burning gear so in 44 days you will have your completed set 6 weeks...and if you play more on the weekends and do Seige you could probably have your lionsmane faster over that 6 weeks. So now we are saying in 6 weeks you could get a full set of Burning, now lets compare that to EDEMO and a twisted weapons set.

I only play on weekends actually,
and for a total of 6 hours a week.

For the past 4 weeks I have gotten 0 glory for every single game I've played.
I didn't say getting the gear was impossible, I said ALMOST impossible.

Hate to break it to you but getting anything done in Neverwinter only playing 6hrs a week is nearly impossible.

nickjdowe · June 2016

xpaeonx#5499 said:

nickjdowe said:

interlagos335i said:
If u do its all the 4k premades from ur lovely noob bashing guilds that thinks it's cool to kill 2.5k gs ppl....
This..

I jumped in one yesterday and it was all members of JHSF on one side and the other.... well you get it. My biggest problem with fighting some of these pvp guilds is the exploits. I respect anyone that made it all the way to 4K+ iLevel and have a successful pvp build. However if you are sitting at 4K and Guild Hall 16+ but you're still using exploits, drains, and Ambush rings then you're trash. Like how much of an advantage do you need to pug smash 2500 iLevel players? It's killing what little pvp community we have left.
I understand the exploits comment but do you seriously, think they que hoping for a PUG they don't. If you think they are going to start spending gold to remove their drains and then take the time to take of their rings... it wont matter they will still beat you.

I personally don't feel sorry for anyone who is going to whine about pvp, if you can't grind it out and get the gear you don't really want to pvp. I started with blue stronghold gear and a low level guild house 6 weeks ago, I grinded Domination and Seige and got a high enough IL to join a guild focused on pvp with a good guild house. So for someone who started from nothing and worked their way to have good pvp gear, i say just stop whining and work at it. Everyone wants **** just handed to them, some of you people would have never survived in another MMO, Neverwinter is about as casual as it gets while still being a great MMO.

I setup premades all the time with 3k-3.8k IL and we also get smashed by the best premades, we don't cry we just keep grinding to get better. So grind it out makes some friends build your own premade, a pvp premade of 2.5 IL with the right set of classes can easily beat most PUGS. PVE and PVP are the same in this game try going up against EDEMO with a 2.5IL group and get gold it's next to impossible. Does that mean you give up and never run it again, no you either grind it out and get silvers to get your weapons or you go grind and get your IL up so you can be in those 3k+ groups. People expect to jump into Domination once or twice a day and make progress, when you run ELOL or any other dungeon you know its going to take 100 runs to get a horn of blasting or get a Legendary ring from EDEMO dont expect PVP grind to be any different.

Oh and by the way i play maybe 2-3 hours a day on the weekdays i have a full time job its not like i sit around a do DOM all day everyday.

So you don't think premades go out to pug smash to pad their K/D ratio?

You think LGPG or JHSF have a gold shortage?

If they can beat everyone without those rings then why still where them?

As for your personal journey I applaud you. As for me I'm a 3.4k GWF with an 8-1 k/d ratio sitting well above 1000 kills with only 200 deaths if that (most of those from before I decided to dedicate my build for full pvp spec) I pretty much never die. My gripe is not with pvp or game balance. It's with BIS players still using cheats, exploits, and dirty play methods that aren't necessary because they are already BIS and should rely on skill not these other methods.

xpaeonx · June 2016

nickjdowe said:

xpaeonx#5499 said:

nickjdowe said:

interlagos335i said:
If u do its all the 4k premades from ur lovely noob bashing guilds that thinks it's cool to kill 2.5k gs ppl....
This..

I jumped in one yesterday and it was all members of JHSF on one side and the other.... well you get it. My biggest problem with fighting some of these pvp guilds is the exploits. I respect anyone that made it all the way to 4K+ iLevel and have a successful pvp build. However if you are sitting at 4K and Guild Hall 16+ but you're still using exploits, drains, and Ambush rings then you're trash. Like how much of an advantage do you need to pug smash 2500 iLevel players? It's killing what little pvp community we have left.
I understand the exploits comment but do you seriously, think they que hoping for a PUG they don't. If you think they are going to start spending gold to remove their drains and then take the time to take of their rings... it wont matter they will still beat you.

I personally don't feel sorry for anyone who is going to whine about pvp, if you can't grind it out and get the gear you don't really want to pvp. I started with blue stronghold gear and a low level guild house 6 weeks ago, I grinded Domination and Seige and got a high enough IL to join a guild focused on pvp with a good guild house. So for someone who started from nothing and worked their way to have good pvp gear, i say just stop whining and work at it. Everyone wants **** just handed to them, some of you people would have never survived in another MMO, Neverwinter is about as casual as it gets while still being a great MMO.

I setup premades all the time with 3k-3.8k IL and we also get smashed by the best premades, we don't cry we just keep grinding to get better. So grind it out makes some friends build your own premade, a pvp premade of 2.5 IL with the right set of classes can easily beat most PUGS. PVE and PVP are the same in this game try going up against EDEMO with a 2.5IL group and get gold it's next to impossible. Does that mean you give up and never run it again, no you either grind it out and get silvers to get your weapons or you go grind and get your IL up so you can be in those 3k+ groups. People expect to jump into Domination once or twice a day and make progress, when you run ELOL or any other dungeon you know its going to take 100 runs to get a horn of blasting or get a Legendary ring from EDEMO dont expect PVP grind to be any different.

Oh and by the way i play maybe 2-3 hours a day on the weekdays i have a full time job its not like i sit around a do DOM all day everyday.

So you don't think premades go out to pug smash to pad their K/D ratio?

You think LGPG or JHSF have a gold shortage?

If they can beat everyone without those rings then why still where them?

As for your personal journey I applaud you. As for me I'm a 3.4k GWF with an 8-1 k/d ratio sitting well above 1000 kills with only 200 deaths if that (most of those from before I decided to dedicate my build for full pvp spec) I pretty much never die. My gripe is not with pvp or game balance. It's with BIS players still using cheats, exploits, and dirty play methods that aren't necessary because they are already BIS and should rely on skill not these other methods.

If you read above i agree with you about exploits, my points about moving gear is it doesnt matter why remove it ... its not going to change the outcome. On top of that they usually do get rid of there ambush and sight rings and switch to rosegold when they know it less competitive, they also change out spells. Exploits in PVP wont stop until Cryptic cares about PVP... i don't see that happening anytime soon because of the population that pvps. I know thats what causes some of the low turn out for pvp, and btw it's not just low pvp IL and Pugs that get hit with exploits... pugs use them to .. I'm 3.9K IL and I've been taken out by 2.9's who use exploits so....

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nickjdowe · June 2016

Just saying I'd rather be beat by a 2.9 using an exploit that couldn't beat me without it than a 4.2 that doesn't need to. I already have to overcome the hurdle that is his stats and boons trying to pit my skill vs his gear. Like you said, he should be able to beat me anyway. I've come across an OP using rank 2 drains, ambush, vanishing, max GH with 4.2 iLevel. I was thinking to myself why would an OP be running that set up? Then I seen him in siege and realized it's because he's running the owlbear + burning light glitch. There's no defending that kind of nonsense. It's completely uncalled for. What is worse is that he already has full Lionsmane so he is either doing it to gear an alt or to grief players still trying to get their banners. And it's not just one guy or one guild, I've seen the Nation run 4 OPs and 2 SWs all using this method to control siege matches to farm banners, or the stealth rings to hold a depot indefinitely just by hiding somewhere near by it without even having to fight. They fixed the immune depot problem on PC but Xbox abuses the heck out of it. These people are all nearing BIS and I personally feel there's no reason to do that kind of stuff to players still trying to climb the ladder. Just my opinion, you can agree or disagree.

xpaeonx · June 2016

nickjdowe said:
Just saying I'd rather be beat by a 2.9 using an exploit that couldn't beat me without it than a 4.2 that doesn't need to. I already have to overcome the hurdle that is his stats and boons trying to pit my skill vs his gear. Like you said, he should be able to beat me anyway. I've come across an OP using rank 2 drains, ambush, vanishing, max GH with 4.2 iLevel. I was thinking to myself why would an OP be running that set up? Then I seen him in siege and realized it's because he's running the owlbear + burning light glitch. There's no defending that kind of nonsense. It's completely uncalled for. What is worse is that he already has full Lionsmane so he is either doing it to gear an alt or to grief players still trying to get their banners. And it's not just one guy or one guild, I've seen the Nation run 4 OPs and 2 SWs all using this method to control siege matches to farm banners, or the stealth rings to hold a depot indefinitely just by hiding somewhere near by it without even having to fight. They fixed the immune depot problem on PC but Xbox abuses the heck out of it. These people are all nearing BIS and I personally feel there's no reason to do that kind of stuff to players still trying to climb the ladder. Just my opinion, you can agree or disagree.

Your complaint isn't just PVP it's PVE to you basically have an issue with high end competitive gamers that use every means possible to be on top. You will run into these issues no matter what MMORPG you play, in my opinion MMO's have gone soft. Be glad you can't get killed and have your gear taken or your astral diamonds taken. Here's the problem with exploits if you're a 4k and you don't use the same advantages the other 4ks maybe using then you lose, your asking people to bring a knife to a gun fight. They don't do it so they can grief pugs, they do it so when they run into another 4k exploiting the playing field is equaled. I'm not saying it makes it right, but look at any competitve sport and steroids same HAMSTER. So again until Cryptic cares it will continue....and every good PVPer wants Cryptic to care. Exploits are no different then broken classes like paladin in PVP, they are game mechanics that are not intended, but they are available so people use them. If all exploits where fixed you would still have broken classes and you know what happens when people who love to PVP and are competitve know there is a class better than the rest they re-role. Every MMORPG I have played has been like this, my advice would be to accept it there are META changes with each mode and update and you have to roll with the punches.

sundance777 · June 2016

No, PvP is not fun any in this game any more

nickjdowe · June 2016

Copy and paste that statement on the PC side and see what kind of response you get. PC players were able to clean up their pvp by publicly shaming those that use exploits and Ambush. It's the community on Xbox that is the issue. You speak as if this is my first mmo, I'm 37 been playing MOBA and MMO since jump and can tell you that most of the problems with community is on the console with exception to a few PC games that, much like Neverwinter, had many exploitative features in the game that devs were slow to patch. Broken classes and class balance is its own thing just like fotm builds/classes, I see nothing wrong with that. The Xbox community has made baby steps to clean up its act by shaming GF Bilethorn users and that's a good thing. I don't think it's necessary to wait for the devs to step in, when we have the ability to use common sense and just clean up our own backyard like they did on PC. Ask anyone on the PC side that takes pvp seriously what they think of stealth and drains. It's that mentality, "the devs put it in the game so I'm going to take advantage of it" that's driving people away from the game. If you're already BIS or close to it, there's no need to use exploits to win, even against other BIS. Be the better person and put an end to the dirty game play. I don't care what happens on the PvE side because that has no effect on another player. I'm not asking anyone to bring a knife to a gunfight because that would mean to not use exploits would be nerfing your ability to be competitive, I'm just asking people not to bring nukes.

timmorton · June 2016

I have been trying to grind it out and get glory over the last day or so. I have only been able to win 1 game in 10 which just starting PVP is quite good. My issue is the 9 that I lost I was only able to get glory on 3 of those matches. That means I can get glory to get better gear on only 40% of the matches that I play. I have not seen any group let my team get zone to get points to get the glory. I have even seen my team give up and sit by the fire and watched the other team gather below waiting for someone to come down. When that happens I can't see it being fun for the team at the bottom any more then the team sitting by the fire. If some zones or one zone were allowed to be taken back then everyone who plays would benefit. The people sitting by the fire would no longer sit by the fire they would come down and the people waiting would have people to kill. Something has to change with PVP or it will slowly get less and less people who play. Maybe give out glory based on the amount of points you get and have a 25-50 point minimum for playing? At least people would be able to gain glory and get better with every match instead of getting better on only 40% of the matches played. I have even had people tell me to stop playing because I was making them lose. How am I suppose to get better without playing, and without getting glory?

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ddem0n888 · June 2016

As I've previously mentioned I'm dipping my toe into PvP.

On a negative side I've been trying to get geared up. Siege has been a nightmare. I've had comments removed from the forum for complaining about it. Anyone who's tried to run Siege knows the issues I'm talking about. I dont mean the queue.

On the plus side I pug Dom for Glory and landed in a premade with 4 JHSF. We absolutely wiped the floor with the other side (so this is what it feels like being on the successful end). The other team just campfired at around 300-0. At around 700-0 the other team ventured out and no one attacked them. They let them happily cap a few points, we took some back and they retook them. Then the match ended. No abuse in Chat. This should happen more often.

Unfortunately PvP on console seems to bring out the worst in people.

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satniteeduardo · June 2016

There are 2 sides to this discussion. One is mentioned above. But the 4k premades are really not doing themselves any favours if their goal is to have a strong PVP player base going forwards. If I am not good enough to beat them thats cool. They are better than me and hats off to them. But if I can not gain anything from playing a game then why should I bother to queue up for it.

So if 4k premades are queueing for GG like they were on the weekend and they literally prevent me and my team from achieving any objectives then I will simply go and do something else. Will that thing be grinding for refinement to upgrade my PVP toon? Maybe but I and many others won't be going back to GG for a while so they will have no one to play against.

I am not one to whinge and moan about being stomped in PVP but the reality is I will go and play a game mode where I can actually achieve something if they prevent me from getting any progress towards boons etc.

The PVP community here is already too thin for it to survive with the 4ks stomping everyone in my opinion.

Yes I will get better but it may just be too late.

armadeonx · June 2016

The pvp community is already a lot smaller than it used to be, we've also lost a significant number of the better players from the pvp guilds due to matches either being pug stomps or stalemates. Pvp is not designed to be a fair challenge and that's what most people look for in a match.

interlagos335i · June 2016

And honestly the sad thing is they dont go alone with pugs, if u watch their steams on twitch you'll see em get their squad and go out. Ya it's not hard when the whole squad is 4k with lions mane. I know alot of ppl who don't play pvp anymore cuz of this and seriously what's the 4k to gain? You're name on page 1? Feeling uber cuz you drained your credit card and now you're killing 2500ils...

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kalina311 · June 2016

+ 1

nickjdowe said:
Copy and paste that statement on the PC side and see what kind of response you get. PC players were able to clean up their pvp by publicly shaming those that use exploits and Ambush. It's the community on Xbox that is the issue. You speak as if this is my first mmo, I'm 37 been playing MOBA and MMO since jump and can tell you that most of the problems with community is on the console with exception to a few PC games that, much like Neverwinter, had many exploitative features in the game that devs were slow to patch. Broken classes and class balance is its own thing just like fotm builds/classes, I see nothing wrong with that. The Xbox community has made baby steps to clean up its act by shaming GF Bilethorn users and that's a good thing. I don't think it's necessary to wait for the devs to step in, when we have the ability to use common sense and just clean up our own backyard like they did on PC. Ask anyone on the PC side that takes pvp seriously what they think of stealth and drains. It's that mentality, "the devs put it in the game so I'm going to take advantage of it" that's driving people away from the game. If you're already BIS or close to it, there's no need to use exploits to win, even against other BIS. Be the better person and put an end to the dirty game play. I don't care what happens on the PvE side because that has no effect on another player. I'm not asking anyone to bring a knife to a gunfight because that would mean to not use exploits would be nerfing your ability to be competitive, I'm just asking people not to bring nukes.

xpaeonx · June 2016

interlagos335i said:
And honestly the sad thing is they dont go alone with pugs, if u watch their steams on twitch you'll see em get their squad and go out. Ya it's not hard when the whole squad is 4k with lions mane. I know alot of ppl who don't play pvp anymore cuz of this and seriously what's the 4k to gain? You're name on page 1? Feeling uber cuz you drained your credit card and now you're killing 2500ils...

Are you serious so when you get 4K IL you should just quit? It's not like when a 4K team or person ques there is a spot to request to fight a group at a lower item level. Everyone is a bunch of whiners don't expect to be a part time pvper and get anywhere it's the same for PVE. I don't see anyone making EDEMO gold easier for you because your gear level is 2.5, everyone wants HAMSTER handed to them. You guys complain about the 4k's but when i solo que which is most the time you dont see me on here bitching about pre-mades when i solo que, just like you wont see me HAMSTER when i solo que for EDEMO and the group sucks, instead of putting my own 3K Group together. Most players are lazy you really want to get in to pvp and win make some friends show the higher ranking PVPers respect and you can probably que with them sometime. I've said on here before i'll group with anyone add me, but all you want to do is complain and have glory handed to you. I don't see anyone sending me a message for an invite. If you put as much effort into complaining as you do trying to PVP, you would probably have your burning by now.

d4rkh0rs3 · June 2016

I got* into a gaunt match yesterday afternoon. It has been months since gaunt has popped. Any guesses on how it went?

Premade 4k+ ilvls from a well known endgame guild rocking r2 stamina drains and never leaving their guild buddy's side--even after they realized they were up 1000-15 and destroying the opposing pug team. Its as if they are petrified of 1v1s.

After our team was clearly defeated, one guy jumps down from spawn and a horde of ravenous TRs all jump at the opportunity to see who can SE first while their guildies perma root and stamina drain the 2.1k ilvl player, 1v6.

Very sad community and experience.

Does anyone ever run gauntlgrym pvp?

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