Is it possible to play this game without being in a guild?

wolfdawn73 · April 2016

I'm in a guild but getting tired of the problems that go on. Don't get me wrong I've no problem with donating to the stronghold coffer. I'm just tired of all the other junk that goes on within guilds. So I guess I'm just wondering if a player can get by without being a guild with the way the game is now. Sorry if this isn't the right place to post this.

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zephyriah · April 2016

Trying a different guild would be another option. There are some that have no initiation/join fee, no donation requirements, no participation requirements and just a laidback attitude. When you get serious again, you can move on with no loss or stay on and enjoy the low pressure relaxed environment. Of course, they generally have lower guildhalls, marketplace and boons.

Very little of the game content actually requires guild membership, but guild membership can make content easier.

firepats12 · April 2016

Yea check out the Guild Recruitment thread on here. The largest, most laid back guild that I have noticed is Casual Gamers. I'm sure you would fit in there, because they are just that...Casual Gamers.

But to answer your question: It is possible to play the game w/o a guild BUT makes it a bit difficult and kinda prevents you from being the best you can be.

armadeonx · April 2016

I played through most of mod 5 and part of mod 6 without a guild and I was fine with that. From near the end of last year I started trying out guilds, I was primarily looking for one where I felt I fit in personality wise and it took maybe 5 or 6 until I found one that worked for me.

I'm happy where I am now. My current guild has the right mix of friendliness, progression, team spirit & communication.

I don't feel like an outsider trying to break into established friendship circles. People don't put others down when they aren't fully geared. They have a positive focus on growing the guild & everyone buys into it, but the only 'requirement' is 400 daily influence - everything else is voluntary.

I'd suggest you do the same, just look for one that works for you.

And yes the boons make a huge difference.

iccyasd · April 2016

wolfdawn73 said:
I'm in a guild but getting tired of the problems that go on. Don't get me wrong I've no problem with donating to the stronghold coffer. I'm just tired of all the other junk that goes on within guilds. So I guess I'm just wondering if a player can get by without being a guild with the way the game is now. Sorry if this isn't the right place to post this.

If you want to find a friendly guild that has no force donation/fee you can try "Windows Central" (rank3 GH), we do stronghold HE every Sunday morning, get on mic & start chatting.

The only requirement here is be active

but to answer your question, without guild boons you will be losing out.

wdj40 · April 2016

My old Guild is also worth looking up that I used to be Rank 6 in... Guardians of the Whispering Eye, great bunch of people who specialise in helping new players etc. They also have a website www.gotwe.boards.net you can go and check out and speak to them.

A friendly atmosphere within a Guild might be just what you are looking for TC.

kuero21 · April 2016

wolfdawn73 said:
I'm in a guild but getting tired of the problems that go on. Don't get me wrong I've no problem with donating to the stronghold coffer. I'm just tired of all the other junk that goes on within guilds. So I guess I'm just wondering if a player can get by without being a guild with the way the game is now. Sorry if this isn't the right place to post this.

Yes, it is. I'm in a guild but I basically never run anything with my guild mates, I'm always pugging.
Your pugging experience will be hugely affected on your class and item level though. If you're not a cleric/ tank/ paladin or GWF with a low item lvl you might get kicked out a lot of times. Queuing up a dps character in general takes several minutes only to find a group, clerics don't have this problem. They que up and 1 second later the group- found- window pops up.

wdj40 · April 2016

Does kicking really still go on?

I have not seen anyone be kicked or a vote for kicking for a number of months now.

stercesderised · April 2016

You could play this game without joining a guild, but why give up the free boons? There are plenty of cool, strong players out there in guilds that don't have extremely pricey entry fees and/or are not trying to take over the (NW) world, but just trying to progress the SH and clear any/all content.

Like Legacy...I hear they're great! ;-)

PS - sorry...couldn't resist a shameless plug

kuero21 · April 2016

wdj40 said:
Does kicking really still go on?

I have not seen anyone be kicked or a vote for kicking for a number of months now.

Yea, it is. Seen plenty of it

quazakaharet · April 2016

You can get by, yes. I was on my own for a long time. Then joined a guild and had a similar expierence to you. Things happened and I was on my own for a few months, and was not going to bother with a guild again.

then about 20 members of that guild whom were also fed up with things ( mostly officers) decided to leave together as the drama was not worth it. I joined up with them to goof around in the stronghold again, and wound up staying.
We've been around for about 10 days and managed marketplace 1.

I think my time alone was what led to some of the reasons my character progressed the way it did. I came back able to run alone, but even stronger in a group setting.

Overall you do not need a guild to survive in this game, but in the right one, it makes it fun. But depends on why you want to be there. If your goal is boons and a lvl 20 guild hall you might need to look a while. If its just having people to run content with then that's simpler to find, but not necessary if your having fun on your own.

Good luck.

and yes, kicking/ quitting out is still an issue with pugs.

smellycat2012 · April 2016

wolfdawn73 said:
I'm in a guild but getting tired of the problems that go on. Don't get me wrong I've no problem with donating to the stronghold coffer. I'm just tired of all the other junk that goes on within guilds. So I guess I'm just wondering if a player can get by without being a guild with the way the game is now. Sorry if this isn't the right place to post this.

Yes, I've never been in a guild.

destrowod · April 2016

Personally the fun of being in a guild for me is just to have people to run stuff. The queue system of NW is broken, rarely can find any playable match, so this leave only the enclave to shout "LF ELOL" and other things in wait that somebody may pick you up...

In a guild its easier with guild chat to be able to run stuff.

But in term of stats and all, you can most certainly manage to be strong enough without the boons and such.

I never understood why some of the guild take this as serious as they are. Its just a laid back game... But i think when you put 150 strangers together, thats kinda bound to happen eventually

tgwolf · April 2016

It's definitely something you should look at doing.

Guilds are a p2w feature in NW, wanna be in one? That's fine.

But I promise you'll always be treated like **** for it.

armadeonx · April 2016

tgwolf said:
It's definitely something you should look at doing.

Guilds are a p2w feature in NW, wanna be in one? That's fine.

But I promise you'll always be treated like **** for it.

That is just plain not true. Sure SOME guilds are not good places but stating that they all are is just a fabrication.

I've been in maybe 6 guilds and none of them were abusive. Some were not very active, some were full of 'closed circles' where you were ignored if you weren't one of the 'popular' guys.

Sure you will find guilds where the leadership are not good people - that's life. Assess & move on if necessary. In general the more established guilds have been through their 'growing pains', sorted out how they're run & what they expect.

For newer guilds I would say just communicate & figure them out & don't give more than is reasonable. If a new guild is expecting AD, Gold etc on a daily/weekly basis then I would say you should leave. If they expect daily influence & make everything else voluntary then that's good.

It's a simple fact that good guilds want good people. They are run by players who enjoy running a community & welcome new people.

missdayum · April 2016

wolfdawn73 said:
I'm in a guild but getting tired of the problems that go on. Don't get me wrong I've no problem with donating to the stronghold coffer. I'm just tired of all the other junk that goes on within guilds. So I guess I'm just wondering if a player can get by without being a guild with the way the game is now. Sorry if this isn't the right place to post this.

Frankly, yes it is. Although you will miss out on major stats bonuses from the guild (depends on rank). In the end the game is build so far for players to be able to play the game even without being in any guild. Unless someone tells me otherwise lol. Also you play most dungeon farmings with four other players which will grant enough buff/debuffs/stats-bonuses for the entire run.

destrowod · April 2016

tgwolf said:
It's definitely something you should look at doing.

Guilds are a p2w feature in NW, wanna be in one? That's fine.

But I promise you'll always be treated like **** for it.

Stronghold in particular have been a guild corrupting tool since its release. It turned out what could had been good guilds into "workshops" where you pretty much have to pay your due or can get yourself on the way out. And pretty much all the guilds that are advanced a lot have seen either leaders/co-leaders dropping tons of money in the guild, or asking for very high requirements from members. Anyway i won't go ahead on a novel again about it, already mentioned it many times.

But there is still good smaller guilds that value the players and not the "production" he can do. I think those guilds are worth sacrifying the boons(for now) for a better environement and human aproach. Im not saying those guilds are bound to be 100% completely drama free, but they usually have much better chances that it won't happen or at least anything serious.

Of course any guild that want to progress must at some point install some requirements, but usually smaller ones understand that life comes first. That you are not a "worker" for the guild, but a member of a big friend circle. Anyway thats my experience so far.

When your in a guild for 4 months and you seen half the roster change... there is definately something not right about it....

armadeonx · April 2016

Anyone standing around in PE can see guilds advertising, saying 'no donations required' & some of those have achieved GH 4-10.

My guild only requires daily influence - often run as 15 man HE's when someone asks in guild chat if anyone's interested. We're currently working on GH16.

A major factor in that advancement has been regular dragon runs, most members want to do them & it nets a lot of donation certificates for the coffer.

Whilst there will of course be those out there that will exploit people, I've personally found that guild membership has more importance to players now. The first few guilds I was in (mod 5/6) were very 'whatever', nobody talking to anyone except their friends & not responding to calls for dungeon runs etc.

I wouldn't argue that it's made guilds better but it's certainly made them more focused and I'm actually pretty happy about that.
A point to remember is that guilds need members now, which is why you see much more recruiting - if you're not happy with your current guild then leave & try another.

sundance777 · April 2016

You can play without a guild. I think the two main things you should get from being in a guild are people to help you progress and people to group with so you have the ability to run content either more quickly or content that you cannot run without a group. I would recommend you talk to some of the guild members to see if there is a fit for you.

The boons are a nice benefit but you don't need the guild boons to beat most (if not all) of the content in the game and strongholds is a pretty sizable grind, I mean would I really be running Sharandar every day on three toons if I was not in a guild???

thefiresidecat · April 2016

it depends on what you want out of the game. Yes you can play without a guild but a guild definitely helps you if it's an active guild and especially if it's a guild with boons.

masterwolf56 · April 2016

The boons are a nice benefit but you don't need the guild boons to beat most (if not all) of the content in the game and strongholds is a pretty sizable grind, I mean would I really be running Sharandar every day on three toons if I was not in a guild???

LoL Why not? Thaumaturge stones are nice!

armadeonx · April 2016

Our guys don't run campaign areas for currencies much - most comes from vouchers from influence & dragonflight runs - there's some top-up from campaigns but not a lot, and it's purely voluntary.

sundance777 · April 2016

I use Leadership to make refining stones, there is only so much play time in a day, and we don't quite have enough people on at the same time to farm out all the dragons. We kill one here and there when we feel like it but not enough to feed the coffer. I am looking forward to the changes in Mod 9, there will be some cool new options to feed the coffer and some of the GH costs and campaign costs are going down.

yourenext2die · April 2016

Yes it's possible, I was running solo before I stopped playing a couple months ago. I'll probably jump on for a little while soon as The Division has slowed down.

armadeonx · April 2016

I was wondering where you went - lol

zak3056 · April 2016

PVE? You can do fine without a guild. PVP? You NEED a guild or you're going to get stomped (of course, even with a decent guild, you're still going to get stomped fairly often in L70 PVP, but it will happen quite a bit less if you've got an extra 10k stat points, wards, and/or drains).

yourenext2die · April 2016

armadeonx said:
I was wondering where you went - lol

Sup.

aeacus · May 2016

All depends on what you want to accomplish. I'm not in a guild, don't really group, I just run around and kill stuff and complete quests/farm. I have fun, not the best gear, but I am over 3k. Takes me heck of a lot longer in getting enchantments, gear, etc., but I don't deal with guild drama, etc as a positive. I wish I could do the masterwork....

bratleyray · May 2016

To answer quickly, Yes, you can play this game without being in a guild... to each their own... there are pros and cons either way... let it rest already...

masterwolf56 · May 2016

Gear, boons, making friends, growing together... Whats not to like about being in a guild? Yes you can play without one, but you're going to be missing out on a lot of fun with other people.

Is it possible to play this game without being in a guild?

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