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Justice? PvE tanking? Help?

veywiil#8685 veywiil Member Posts: 208 Arc User
Looking for a RELEVANT OP(Prot) Justice guide. (I guess)
Is it even viable, bottom line for (Almost exclusively) PvE tanking. There are quite a few mod 6 guides but they are so horrendously old, with the way this game balances. That I can't trust any guide I find. So what's the lo down?
I'm 61 ATM, and tanking everything except when GWF's are In the party. I use Relentless avenger, Templars Wrath and Burning Light, I attempt to keep Divine Protector on as much as possible for the team. Binding Oath has done me 0 good so far and thus Can't even comprehend using it, or why?

All in all I'm looking for What to do, and Why to do it, in relation to Everything from Gear, to enchants, to skills, to rotations, to auras, to... Everything is PvP build for paladins now, is Devo really that outstanding in PvE? Is Justice not Viable? PvE tanking is the endgame goal, Justice seems like the way to go. Maybe I'm missing something?
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  • thefabricantthefabricant Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 5,248 Arc User
    Justice is viable and is fact the best way to go. My guide is updated for mod 8 however I exclusively play pve (you won't get any advice for pvp in it). The reason you use binding oath is because its an additional layer of damage reduction, however, it is more relevant in dungeons at endgame then it is at level 61. My advice is get to level 70 and then look over and revise your character. Justice is definitely the strongest path for paladin at the moment, it is the best for tanking and for dps and is all round a solid path to take.
  • moltenperezosomoltenperezoso Member Posts: 52 Arc User
    I would add Circle of Power and take away Relentless avenger. You get a 30% dmg buff and also I think it is 20-25% extra Dmg Resistance, so you tank better and you get a nice dmg buff. Only issue i have with Circle of Power is the animation time, its a bit lengthy. RA is ok for solo if you are desperate for Recovery , however, if you have Mythic sigil of devoted and at least 4k Recovery , and you time your encounters right, you can be close to perma bubble. I do it all the time... My current IL is 3.5K btw. RA is not good for groups as it splits up the mobs, and most of the DPS classes need the mobs to cluster for max DPS, so you are going against what they need. Get rid of RA :)
  • skar3174skar3174 Member Posts: 11 Arc User
    To the OP, Sharpedge's Pali Bible is love...it is life...it is your bread and butter. Study it, know it, love it, breathe it and you to will be tanking like a Justice prot OP pro in the very near future :) Also the Leeroy Jenkins guide thread should be attached to this, they are amazing reference tools with a different perspective from 2 VERY successful Pali's in this game. Most important of all, experiment with your powers and get to know them well, different load outs for different scenarios. GL study hard and you WILL succeed. :)
  • edhoniel#9273 edhoniel Member Posts: 6 Arc User

    RA is not good for groups as it splits up the mobs, and most of the DPS classes need the mobs to cluster for max DPS, so you are going against what they need. Get rid of RA :)

    While i agree 100% on RA being a pain for DPS, how to you deal with threat ? as an undergeared pally (2K) it seems i can keep aggro without this (and even then ... I barely tank).
    Does echoes of light work on Circle of power ? i mean it fully reset the 1min CD ???
  • moltenperezosomoltenperezoso Member Posts: 52 Arc User

    RA is not good for groups as it splits up the mobs, and most of the DPS classes need the mobs to cluster for max DPS, so you are going against what they need. Get rid of RA :)

    While i agree 100% on RA being a pain for DPS, how to you deal with threat ? as an undergeared pally (2K) it seems i can keep aggro without this (and even then ... I barely tank).
    Does echoes of light work on Circle of power ? i mean it fully reset the 1min CD ???
    There are other options for threat generation. Single target you could use, Vow Of Enmity, of Bane. When you press Tab and get Judge and those other procs, that generates threat as well.

    Most use RA typically for AP generation. If you are trying to get as much AP as possible, I would recommend Templar's Wrath, and Burning Light. Also use Superior Tidespan potions if your recovery is low. That will give you an extra 1K recovery for 60 minutes of game time and they are cheap enough. :)
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