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What class is best for what challenge? and I struggle to get the under 50% health done!

silverkeltsilverkelt Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 4,235 Arc User
Ok clearly..
GWF is best for not using encounters.

HR is best for non at will (with cw second)

Alot of the the challenges are not class specific (donating to coffer) and such doesnt matter.

But I cant get the 50% under health one done.. every time.. random life steal proc , even on my under 10% toons.. i fail every time.

I think the only way to do it is a low level gwf alt or something. where you wont die .. but you can maintain it under 50% .

Maybe a gf or pally would work as well.

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  • thefabricantthefabricant Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 5,248 Arc User

    Ok clearly..
    GWF is best for not using encounters.

    HR is best for non at will (with cw second)

    Alot of the the challenges are not class specific (donating to coffer) and such doesnt matter.

    But I cant get the 50% under health one done.. every time.. random life steal proc , even on my under 10% toons.. i fail every time.

    I think the only way to do it is a low level gwf alt or something. where you wont die .. but you can maintain it under 50% .

    Maybe a gf or pally would work as well.

    I simply put on my HV set and run around in spinward rise for that challenge, its a lot easier to stay under 50%, when you got a smaller life pool.
  • zibadawazibadawa Member Posts: 1,266 Arc User
    edited January 2016

    Ok clearly..
    GWF is best for not using encounters.

    HR is best for non at will (with cw second)

    Alot of the the challenges are not class specific (donating to coffer) and such doesnt matter.

    But I cant get the 50% under health one done.. every time.. random life steal proc , even on my under 10% toons.. i fail every time.

    I think the only way to do it is a low level gwf alt or something. where you wont die .. but you can maintain it under 50% .

    Maybe a gf or pally would work as well.

    Life steal on a deflect proc is my bane for the health challenge, too. I'm a TR, and what I usually try to do for that is to use stealth and to dodge just as they attack so I go out of their range and don't get hit, while otherwise running to try to maintain my distance without dragging them so far that they reset and the combat ends. That draws things out. Finding monsters with slow attack speeds and extremely telegraphed attacks helps (dread ring humanoids, trolls, golems, things like that).

  • szejhuludpuchaczszejhuludpuchacz Member Posts: 306 Arc User
    I dont have much ls on my GF but went wod for challenge and afk on drakes. They took 30% of my HP (117k, no stone) max. My GF isnt even tanky (conq), just have g nega. Healing boons were procing on him... I was afking till challenge failed. My GWF, well, easy to trim in wod and kill trimed enemies with one blow BUT waiting 30 sec under 50%? No way...
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  • ulvielulviel Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 741 Arc User
    Taking off some gear (especially items with lifesteal and regen) helps a lot. Next step is to choose a zone with plenty of not very hard mobs, for example sharandar.
  • valwrynvalwryn Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,620 Arc User
    Best to go naked.............but then there's always someone who walks by and yells his battlecry "I will save you", and ruins the whole thing. :s
  • silverkeltsilverkelt Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 4,235 Arc User
    meh.. im not stripping to nothing.. WAY too much work and inventory space I never have.

    Ill dismiss my companion next try.
  • putzboy78putzboy78 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,950 Arc User
    get rid of your lifesteal gear for the less than 50% challenge, lowers your damage resistence/hp while preventing you from self heals

    DC could compete with the HR for best for encounter only because divine encounters count. That's six encounters right off the bat and since healer dcs stack recovery they usually are ready for another rotation as soon the divine casting is done. Also DC is less likely to kill the targets which means less time spent finding mobs

    Here's my list but note that I went with generic classes not specific builds like conq GF or righteous DC

    Kill 2 foes without using any healing potions - GWF since they are top dps

    Kill 5 foes within 1 minute - GWF since they are top dps

    Donate to your Stronghold’s coffers within 3 minutes. Only appears on Stronghold maps. - anyone willing to dedicate 5 minutes to this very stupid challenge

    Kill 10 foes without using any Daily Powers - GWF since they are top dps

    Kill 10 foes without using any Encounter Powers - HR because of having twice as many encounters as everyone else

    Survive 30 seconds of combat while under half health - DC (drop the health, then drop down hallowed ground, astral shield, and dodges to last 30 seconds) or GF (take damage and lift shield)

    Use Daily Powers 3 times in 5 minutes - DC thanks to DC artifact and high recovery

    Use Encounter Powers 10 times in combat - HR (has more encouters) or DC (divine encounters count as encounters and high recovery)

    Complete 1 Heroic Encounter within 10 minutes - GWF since they are top dps

    Use 3 skill nodes within 10 minutes - TR i guess, they can drop agro via stealth to get to nodes faster
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  • checkmatein3checkmatein3 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 525 Arc User
    For the 50% health, I used to strip naked (pre mod 6) to do the challenge. Now, I do something really radical. I don't do the challenge. I skip it and wait for the next drop. As a GF, the only mobs that can take me down to 50% health when I am almost totally naked are the WoD mobs. And I am not gonna go there just for the drop. I will skip it, wait a minute, and do the next one.
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  • whyratwhyrat Member Posts: 51 Arc User
    The under 50% is really not that hard... even if you have the "random proc lifesteal" boons or big lifesteal.

    Dismiss your companion (or use augment) so the monsters won't take any damage. Also remove any passive damage powers (e.g. OP Aura). Find some mobs, let them get you below 50%. Kill all but 1 mob. Let that last mob hit you (or not) while you do nothing to fight back. One mob shouldn't do enough to kill you (if so, drink a potion or run/dodge a little). Once the 30 sec are up and your gift appears, kill the single mob, heal up, be on your way.

    You just have to be "in combat"... not actually attacking. If you're not attacking, no lifesteal. If they aren't hitting you, no boon heal procs. I find that portals work well for this (in dread ring / thayan magical shelter) or any big mob that is easy to dodge all the attacks (iron golem / green dragon cult / magma brute / etc). Avoid doing this with mobs that have high burst or hard to block / dodge attacks.

    Taking off gear to make a challenge "easy" is just silly...
  • ulvielulviel Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 741 Arc User
    whyrat said:

    The under 50% is really not that hard... even if you have the "random proc lifesteal" boons or big lifesteal.


    You're talking about "30 sec in combat" one, but there is one more involving killing mobs, where lifesteal proccsare a problem

  • plasticbatplasticbat Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 12,463 Arc User
    edited January 2016
    For GWF, I have not been successful yet but I manage to get to 4/5 before ran out of time. Actually, I just needed another second to get the last one but I failed. So close. The way I did was:

    1. take off my SH lifesteal boon.
    2. beat up the mob to lower their HP but not killing them.
    3. Let them beat me up to below 50% and hope my other lifesteal/healing do not trigger. (This part is more time consuming).
    4. Use dagger to finish them up.
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  • oliboypholiboyph Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 627 Arc User
    I play almost every class and yes I have the same problem with the 50% hp challenge. I make sure to turn off lifesteal boon and it is still hard to avoid lifesteal proc. I guess tr or sw might have an easier time with it, these are the only 2 classes I don't have.
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  • wildfiredewildfirede Member Posts: 886 Arc User
    whyrat said:

    The under 50% is really not that hard... even if you have the "random proc lifesteal" boons or big lifesteal.

    Dismiss your companion (or use augment) so the monsters won't take any damage. Also remove any passive damage powers (e.g. OP Aura). Find some mobs, let them get you below 50%. Kill all but 1 mob. Let that last mob hit you (or not) while you do nothing to fight back. One mob shouldn't do enough to kill you (if so, drink a potion or run/dodge a little). Once the 30 sec are up and your gift appears, kill the single mob, heal up, be on your way.

    You just have to be "in combat"... not actually attacking. If you're not attacking, no lifesteal. If they aren't hitting you, no boon heal procs. I find that portals work well for this (in dread ring / thayan magical shelter) or any big mob that is easy to dodge all the attacks (iron golem / green dragon cult / magma brute / etc). Avoid doing this with mobs that have high burst or hard to block / dodge attacks.

    Taking off gear to make a challenge "easy" is just silly...

    same here, no chance else with my paladin, one wrong move - random boon heals me for 15k... failed
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  • aaramis75aaramis75 Member Posts: 348 Arc User
    I simply go to a high-50's, low 60's zone, where the mobs won't beat you down TOO quickly so that you'll struggle to kill them before they'll kill you, while at the same time being weak enough that you can usually one-shot them when the time is right. I have yet to really have an issue with this challenge on HR, TR, GWF, or OP.

    But then again, I'm not trying this in Well of Dragons or something :p I aim more for Drowned / Hotenow / Fiery / Reclamation, where the biggest challenge is actually drawing enough mobs so that their damage will outweigh your passive regen (assuming you have 1 piece of Dusk gear, which is easy enough to obtain these days with Genie's Dusky Footwear flooding the AH for relatively cheap).

    Hope this helps.
  • throsbithrosbi Member Posts: 291 Arc User
    For the challenges you get the same chances for the same rewards unless i did not understand things. So I just pick up the challenges i know i can accomplish without loosing my mind. Maybe the easy way out but i have tons of other things to do and alts to play than worry about one or two challenges i just cant accomplish.

    Of course if you are tryn to get those achievments than disregard what i said and try try try....
  • couatl13couatl13 Member Posts: 112 Arc User
    If you want to talk "Hard", then try Kelemvor's as a Devotion Paladin... Oi... You have any idea how many of our powers HEAL us? And they want us to kill HOW many while under half health? I just spent alot of time taking a beating and then spamming Radiant Strike. While popping up sanctuary every now and then when I start to get TOO low.
  • putzboy78putzboy78 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,950 Arc User
    how about letting your companion do the killing so lifesteal/heal powers don't proc?
  • jumpingmorksjumpingmorks Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 876 Arc User
    For GWF & GF I went to SH and farmed my influence/Minor HE's for the challenges.

    GWF for under 50% health go for spiders or imps, just stand there like a lemon till you are under 50% then Avalanche.

    My GF was a bit trickier because he has a higher LS, I had to remove his rings and armour and did a minor HE, waited for them to knock me down to below 50% then use encounters, if my LS proc'd I'd wait till my health was low before using another encounter.
  • brafubrafu Member Posts: 6 Arc User
    I just stick to the Drowned Coast on my OP (OD) since the stuff there is high enough to damage me, yet not strong enough to really threaten me even when there are a few groups pounding me (such as for the below 50% challenges).

    on my OP I find all of them (minus the Heroic and skill node ones) pretty easy. But when it comes to the below 50% ones I make sure I use Valorous Strike (since oath strike heals) and that none of my class features are of the healing variety. Then I dismiss my companion and just let a pack of mobs pounds on me and use Sanctuary to heal me up (since it's slow and easily controlled) if I happen to get into trouble.

    If you're main objective is to farm the challenges, or just get the quick 5 for the daily quest, then I would stick to an area like the Drowned Coast for its plentiful and easily reaches mobs and for the fact that they can all (for the most part) be easily dispatched for the challenges requiring kills. The area seems to be one of the best places, IMO, for such a task.
  • hammbo1969hammbo1969 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 165 Arc User
    Is there an achievement for this challenge, or just the standard gift of the gods? I've tried several times on my TR to complete this, but just don't bother picking it up anymore and move on. The next challenge pops up soon enough.
  • jumpingmorksjumpingmorks Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 876 Arc User
    There's at least 2 Achievements. One for doing 1 task and the other for completing all tasks.
  • plasticbatplasticbat Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 12,463 Arc User
    There are 2 50% challenges. I did both for my GWF and GF.

    For staying alive under 50% for 30 seconds, take out a tank companion. Let it hit under 50%. Don't hit anyone. Hence, no LS. After you are under 50%, start to run around and hope the mob go to your pet. For GWF, if the HP is low, bring up unstoppable to get more temp HP. For GF, you can drink a potion.

    For killing 5 under 50%, it is easier but you may need all the time. Take out a tank companion. Unlike the above, you fails only if you run out of time. Lower some foe's HP. When your HP is low, throw dagger to kill something and hope LS does not trigger. If your HP is above 50%, let them hit you to down under. You just need to kill 5 independently when your HP is under 50%.
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