Greater Mark of Union

r000kie · January 2016

So... after widespread complains regarding the cost of the epic Potency Marks... now there is another one which is hard to get - ~60k at AH, now 64k

I usually did DR dungeon daily, with 2 avas, probably 400 times altogether. I can say that in the last 2 months, maybe more, I got very few epic marks, mostly stability ones. 1 lathander arti, long, long time ago

Is there a point to make those drop so rarely? Make it like it was, a guaranteed mark per specific dungeon, maybe once per week...

urabask · January 2016

r000kie said:
So... after widespread complains regarding the cost of the epic Potency Marks... now there is another one which is hard to get - ~60k at AH, now 64k

I usually did DR dungeon daily, with 2 avas, probably 400 times altogether. I can say that in the last 2 months, maybe more, I got very few epic marks, mostly stability ones. 1 lathander arti, long, long time ago

Is there a point to make those drop so rarely? Make it like it was, a guaranteed mark per specific dungeon, maybe once per week...

The price isn't high because they're harder to get. It's because there's more demand; every DPS player is running 2+ artifacts of union. We just had 2x RP too. The price will settle at 50k eventually.

flehstiffer · January 2016

I don't think there drop rate is that bad. I'm usually able to get 2-3 a day from my 7 characters that can run the dungeons.

I do wish I had stocked up way back when the drop rate was 100% though lol

namelesshero347 · January 2016

Also the Eye of Lanthander is BtA now, making it more available to tank and healers.

wentris · January 2016

The price is so high because players havent realised yet that there is a way that greatly increases the chance for a desired mark. Im sure it will eventually be revealed and because of that I dont think any change in marks is needed.

lirithiel · January 2016

wentris said:
The price is so high because players havent realised yet that there is a way that greatly increases the chance for a desired mark. Im sure it will eventually be revealed and because of that I dont think any change in marks is needed.

But that method comes at a cost - 5k AD. I just run DR lair three times every day and take what I can get from my three toons. I had 20-something Greater Marks of Union before 2 x RP hit. Made a tidy sum of AD from those

asterotg · January 2016

If a long time player is in need of the marks, the reason is bad information and/or lazyness. I ran DR on preview, saw, that the drop chance was changed, farmed them and I am fine. Even with dozends of greater marks 'lent' to other players at DRP weekends, I still have ~50 of each mark.

I told all of my friends about the upcoming changes, ONE bothered to farm/ buy greater marks. If someone takes the time to run DR daily dungeons, he should be fine, if RNG does not hate him, otherwise, he has to pay. The guaranteed drop would take away one of the few ways to earn ADs by playing the game, by flooding the market.

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urabask · January 2016

r000kie said:

asterotg said:
If a long time player is in need of the marks, the reason is bad information and/or lazyness
Excuse me for having a job... and not grinding both on live and preview server, to see what hidden nerfs will come. The thing is, used to do 2x DR dungeons per day, between other stuff - I rarely got a purple mark for months. So you think is ok that because you have your stash, and drops becoming very rare, people have to come to you to get them. I did not asked a guaranteed drop as it was before, I ask for a real chance to get one, lets say, in 10 dungeons?

I had a stash of epic marks too (not in the hundreds) which I sold in time when needed the AD for something else. Was normal to think that in 2 months, I can get 5 useful marks by playing... and not getting green stuff from the adamantine chest weeks in a row.

Glad to hear there is a cheat involved to get a mark (if not involving the available keys which it legit..but requires extra time.. or is the special gauntlet)

Remember: Neverwinter is a game, not a full job to spend your day in.

It isn't a cheat. In the first place it's based on common sense and reading comprehension to the point that it's so far from being a cheat that it's hilarious people don't know about it.

wylonus · January 2016

been getting excessive amount of power marks, and still not enough union marks when i need.

venuslightheart · January 2016

Everytime I see players, I got tons of blah blah blah item. It is so easy to get. You must realize, these people has no job or partime job. Play almost all day with 3+, 5+ 10+ 20+ characters. I got mine, screw you and everyone else mentality.

People who play few hours a day want to build and grow characters too. So making easier for all type of players will benefit you, your guild, your PuG player, your friends and everyone else.

Increase drops will benefit community as a whole. You can make AD elsewhere.

santralafax · January 2016

urabask said:

r000kie said:

It isn't a cheat. In the first place it's based on common sense and reading comprehension to the point that it's so far from being a cheat that it's hilarious people don't know about it.

I hope you mean that they have updated the DR events information. I haven't depended on "instructions" from Cryptic in some time. Case in point.

I'll check next time I'm in game.

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plasticbat · January 2016

Set up a raid party with your guild/friends on Thursday. Everyone buys a lot of keys. 3 minutes door to door run. Over 10 runs in an hour. Each of you will get a bunch of Greater Mark of Union unless you have absolutely worst luck of all time.

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plasticbat · January 2016

magenubbie said:
ok.. what's so special about Thursdays besides maintenance?

That is the day that drops "(whatever) Mark of Union".

urabask · January 2016

magenubbie said:

urabask said:

It isn't a cheat. In the first place it's based on common sense and reading comprehension to the point that it's so far from being a cheat that it's hilarious people don't know about it.
I really don't mind that you're trolling people with knowledge they do not posses or a change that people have not noticed. people troll. Either because they have a bad day, can't get laid tonight.. whatever. It's cool. But once you're done trolling at least be a sport and share the information. That's what these forums are for.

Guess it doesn't matter at this point seeing as Plasticbat posted it, but the more people know about it the less it's worth it. Once enough people know about it the price of marks will drop to the point that you're better of buying them instead of farming them.

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plasticbat · January 2016

r000kie said:

To gang up with some team to rush it over and over again for a stupid mark, it is not what I'm doing (not in a guild since mod 6, and will stay like this at least as guild only content will exist) and is the essence of what is wrong with this game besides botting. I can solo it in probably under 5 minutes with 2 of my avas if I skip nodes, and 3 min/run in team is 20/hour.... not 10.

Last time I check 20 is still "Over 10 runs" and people takes breaks.

urabask · January 2016

r000kie said:
Guess what urabask? No need for me to post the schedule tooltips as I said - is the same text after it was corrected, after the nerf. Is a CHANCE to get purple.

So in fact i did not missed any info at all, is still a sh!!y, sh!!y chance..

To gang up with some team to rush it over and over again for a stupid mark, it is not what I'm doing (not in a guild since mod 6, and will stay like this at least as guild only content will exist) and is the essence of what is wrong with this game besides botting. I can solo it in probably under 5 minutes with 2 of my avas if I skip nodes, and 3 min/run in team is 20/hour.... not 10.

Today I did a dungeon twice, as usual... one gave me some blue enchant, one 2 green marks (1 from adamantine chest, one for regular chest). 100 RP in total for those 2 greens, yay!

Edit: (yeah) and one more thing... out of the 86 sold at AH at this very moment, 2-3 guys have 40% of them, Nice...

Thread can be closed, nothing good came of it.

Guess what? All the people selling large amounts of greater marks got them the way Plasticbat is telling you to.

Also, the gauntlet chest can't drop greater marks of union/power/stability. It can drop mops/gmops/smops though.

dfnce · January 2016

Chance of drop for purples is about 20%. I do regular DR runs for some time. One run is about 5-10 minutes for me depending how fast i can get to the chest. Random privateer teams assemble slow, but there are methods to get it faster.

To get 1 epic stone you need 5 runs at average, that is still chance you don't get a single one. There is also weekly AD mission in DR which encourages to roll all playable lvl 70 assets. If you have AD, you can repeat same lair again and again with purchasable keys. It same sort of key you get from Knox with no extra benefits.

Using alts comes with synergy with weekly AD missions, so you could use AD to buy lair keys to do more lair runs with most geared DPS toons, more chance to get purple stones and even start selling them on AH.

I wish weekend lair could have as same strict type of stone as potential reward as one of 3 work days so at least people who play in weekends only could have more chance to get specific type of stone they need.

plasticbat · January 2016

dfnce said:
Chance of drop for purples is about 20%. I do regular DR runs for some time. One run is about 5-10 minutes for me depending how fast i can get to the chest. Random privateer teams assemble slow, but there are methods to get it faster.

The assembled privateer teams usually consist of not-playable (or take too long to finish) nude level 70 characters with one or two strong/main character to clear the rooms. The idea is to use the free key from all the level 70 characters.

santralafax · January 2016

They should go back to guaranteed marks, as prior to Mod 6. If they're issue is multiple alts "abuse", they could randomize for account after first run of day.

I doubt most players have time to run more than an alt or two.

plasticbat · January 2016

santralafax said:
They should go back to guaranteed marks, as prior to Mod 6. If they're issue is multiple alts "abuse", they could randomize for account after first run of day.

I doubt most players have time to run more than an alt or two.

Why bother to randomize? If it is guaranteed, there will be no market to sell the Greater Mark like before mod 6. Greater Mark had no value before mod 6. The blue Mark had a much higher AH price like 100 times. I even dumped Greater Mark to whatever as refinement.

Nobody will farm the Greater Mark more than they need (if it is guaranteed).

santralafax · January 2016

plasticbat said:

santralafax said:
They should go back to guaranteed marks, as prior to Mod 6. If they're issue is multiple alts "abuse", they could randomize for account after first run of day.

I doubt most players have time to run more than an alt or two.
Why bother to randomize? If it is guaranteed, there will be no market to sell the Greater Mark like before mod 6. Greater Mark had no value before mod 6. The blue Mark had a much higher AH price like 100 times. I even dumped Greater Mark to whatever as refinement.

Nobody will farm the Greater Mark more than they need (if it is guaranteed).

I don't really see the problem. There would be no need to farm them, correct. You can then spend your time farming all the special resoance stones, power stones, ad nauseum. Lots of stuff to farm, so they added to the list. Bravo! :-)

How often do you need a green mark? I only occasionally even need blue--and generally use *those* for RP. And you'd still need to acquire Greater Marks on the right day. If you needed more than one you are still looking at multiple weeks unless you buy them on the AH.

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plasticbat · January 2016

santralafax said:

plasticbat said:

santralafax said:
They should go back to guaranteed marks, as prior to Mod 6. If they're issue is multiple alts "abuse", they could randomize for account after first run of day.

I doubt most players have time to run more than an alt or two.
Why bother to randomize? If it is guaranteed, there will be no market to sell the Greater Mark like before mod 6. Greater Mark had no value before mod 6. The blue Mark had a much higher AH price like 100 times. I even dumped Greater Mark to whatever as refinement.

Nobody will farm the Greater Mark more than they need (if it is guaranteed).
I don't really see the problem. There would be no need to farm them, correct. You can then spend your time farming all the special resoance stones, power stones, ad nauseum. Lots of stuff to farm, so they added to the list. Bravo! :-)

How often do you need a green mark? I only occasionally even need blue--and generally use *those* for RP. And you'd still need to acquire Greater Marks on the right day. If you needed more than one you are still looking at multiple weeks unless you buy them on the AH.

If it is like before, you can get Greater Mark of Union on Thursday, Saturday and Sunday. That is why I never need to farm these Greater Marks and I did not bother to sell what I have neither.

Greater Mark of Union

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