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Ignoring Tenacity and Perma Stealth

cesukecesuke Member Posts: 311 Arc User
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Hello people, i have some doubts that i cant understand... Btw i am on BiS 4.1 IL and i have tried many builds Full Arpen/ Full Crit / Full Savage / Recovery / Etc... and the 3 Rogue Paths more than once and in the Dragon Server not in the test server.

I wanna know if i am missing something cause when i go Saboteur my Stealth is Depleted Really Fast and my Shadowy Opportunity Damage is really low like 1.6k Piercing Damage per hit with 24K Power and 100%+ Arpen.

But i constantly see rogues of popular PvP guilds that have for example 15k Power 60% arpen hitting me 16k damage with a touch of Bloodbath or 11-16k damage with 1 CoS Hit and i am in Elemental Lion's Mane.

Other is that some Rogues.... i guess Scoundrels dazes/stuns me in a way i can't even dodge, i have tried scoundrel and the people that i attack get dazed but not stuned and they can just dodge/roll/tp out of my Smoke bomb and other attacks.
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  • mirlegrismirlegris Member Posts: 309 Arc User
    Elven Battle enchant can counter the Daze/interrupt mechanic of Scoundrels.

    ShadOp damages are piercing damages, so you don't need Arp, you need to focus on Power and a max-stealth feats/powers combination : more you maintain or recharge your stealth ( Gloaming cut, OWTS, RtS, SS, BnS ), more you can do piercing damages.

    Full Arp is for other trees.
  • vincentr6669vincentr6669 Member Posts: 235 Arc User
    mirlegris said:

    Elven Battle enchant can counter the Daze/interrupt mechanic of Scoundrels.

    ShadOp damages are piercing damages, so you don't need Arp, you need to focus on Power and a max-stealth feats/powers combination : more you maintain or recharge your stealth ( Gloaming cut, OWTS, RtS, SS, BnS ), more you can do piercing damages.

    Full Arp is for other trees.

    Full ArP is for Executioner also?

    I ask this because Shadow of Demise seems to fits the some role Shadowy Opportunity does, so just focus on Piercing Damage.
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  • cesukecesuke Member Posts: 311 Arc User
    Btw men... i use Trans Elven and some ppl still Daze me and take out "all my movement" some times i even have full stamina and cant Roll... As i tell before i had tried the Sabo path but the stelath depletes extremely fast what is the build so you can stay in stealth being Sabo...
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  • cesukecesuke Member Posts: 311 Arc User
    Great man i will try that !!
  • vincentr6669vincentr6669 Member Posts: 235 Arc User
    defiantone99 said:

    Absurdly high Intelligence and high Recovery above all else. Swift Footwork, Twilight Adept, Improved Cunning Sneak, Shady Preparations, Sneaky Stabber, Knife's Edge, Return to Shadows, Shadowy Opportunity, and One with the Shadows. Use Invisible Infiltrator and Shadow Strike. It is the most dreaded and hated build ever devised. You want Arterial Cut from Executioner for the added Crit Sev.

    My question is:

    So much abilities to make perma Stealthy isn't something "overkill"? I mean, you already got perma Stealthy before going into One With The Shadows, so you can go more Executioner for more damage. I made a thread about that very similar to this one.
  • cesukecesuke Member Posts: 311 Arc User
    The problem is that in pvp rogue damages is cr@p... you need shadowy opporunity... i really tryed to make a melee build but ppl dodge it easy and my "only move" is SE that needs First Strike... but it can be canceled with any CC and most rogues are perma... the truth is i am 4k + IL but the shadowy opportunity build with 2k IL is better...
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  • flehstifferflehstiffer Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 167 Arc User
    High intelligence used to be the only way to get recharge speed high. That isn't an issue anymore, and doing so means giving up a lot of damage or defense (from cha - deflect).

    Going melee just requires a new strategy, and WK usually works well for that I've found. VP with slowing effects can mean the enemy is simply dead.

    I'm currently running a melee build WK tr and short of really geared toons, one duelists flurry will take out a third of their health. I can only imagine getting BIS would start a few 'nerf TR' threads. I'm scoundrel, but korden-hell showed that executioner works quite well too.
  • rayrdanrayrdan Member Posts: 5,410 Arc User
    i dont like saboteur because once you screw up with stealth you are in the hands of your enemy.. Stealth isnt going to recharge without shadow strike. I prefer execution without shadow strike vs no-trs. Played the same way as saboteur just using duelist flurry when in melee range. It was working very well until cowardice ring and ambush one became a thing.
    Now i just dont pvp anymore
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