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Can some pc pvp players share their wisdom on tenacity and lionsmane gear

superjellybabysuperjellybaby Member Posts: 68 Arc User
in PvP Discussion
I'm 2 days away from having access to lionsmane gear and I have the banners ready to go and enough to pick up 2 rings and the 4 piece set but I'm being told by people over here on xbox that too much tenacity is a bad thing.

they said they tested with at wills only and the differences are below

2000 tenacity - killed in 9 seconds
2500 tenacity killed in 16 seconds
3300 tenacity killed in 16-17 seconds

This was done a lot of times using just at wills against a player who was standing still to test to provide the most accurate results we have on xbox and as you can see from their results having 2500 seems to be where it falls off and increasing further didn't change survivability.

are the dual slot rings still bis for pvp? - (we don't have masterwork professions yet)

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  • azuosed89azuosed89 Member Posts: 565 Arc User
    I was testing on xbox as well, but without the lionsmane set as we dont have it yet. The rings however felt that it reduced greatly the damage of an enemy archer roots when I tested...
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  • kweassakweassa Member Posts: 2,390 Arc User
    There's no such thing as too much tenacity.
    Stop making excuses. Be a man.
    If you know something to be broken, stop using it.
    Otherwise, you've got no right to be speaking of 'balance.'
  • rayrdanrayrdan Member Posts: 5,410 Arc User
    Lol lancer
  • fert000fert000 Member Posts: 13 Arc User
    my understanding of tenacity is survivability, not damage output. The more tencity u have, the longer itll take to kill you, but you'll output less damage since you trade offensive stats for tenacity? I can't decide if that's complete truth but it definitely should take longer for you to die since it boosts your resistances, and I also think tenacity over double slotted rings will always be the way to go for pvp. I've just gotten into pvp, so I can't say for sure, but logically speaking, tenacity wll affect your effectiveness in pvp, overall effectiveness, rather than concentrating on just single stats, this in return makes your charater more well rounded. So I will be testing this, trading my artifact equipment and all rings for high tenacity builds, will be awhile before I know the results, item level will drop dramatically, but I am curious of the effects.
  • rayrdanrayrdan Member Posts: 5,410 Arc User
    xbox lacks the tool to do some good testing.
    and of course counting seconds needed to kill an enemy with at wills its definitely not a test.

    as said before...there is no thing such as "enough tenacity"
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  • santralafaxsantralafax Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,896 Arc User
    fert000 said:

    I also think tenacity over double slotted rings will always be the way to go for pvp. I've just gotten into pvp, so I can't say for sure, but logically speaking, tenacity wll affect your effectiveness in pvp, overall effectiveness, rather than concentrating on just single stats, this in return makes your charater more well rounded.

    Anyone else choose tenacity rings over double-slotted, with rank 12s? What about belt/necklace sets? I can't imagine switching out Lostmauth set for tenacity necklace/belt.
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  • rayrdanrayrdan Member Posts: 5,410 Arc User
    You are running with like 700 tenacity? 0.o
  • santralafaxsantralafax Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,896 Arc User
    morenthar said:

    I did end up switching things around and it has struck a nice balance so far.



    Lionsmane helm, chestpiece and arms with Fadeless Walkers. High Lifesteal, Rings of Vanishing Presence and Ambush. I don't miss the tenacity rings or the two extra slots.



    I'll of course have to make some tweaks to it, but the setup is on the right track for my class/build. It obviously wouldn't be optimal for everyone.

    Thanks for the insight. The fadeless walkers look interesting, though I haven't gotten a pair to try yet. I have mixed feelings about those rings, though. Not saying people should or shouldn't use them, just not sure I feel comfortable with them. I' like having solid stats. Double-slot rings give LOTS of stats, if only I could get them with tenacity!
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  • solbergxsolbergx Member Posts: 654 Arc User
    I am using tenacity rings for pvp gives me extra tanking, but i have seen those high geared players who don't mind loosing a few stats in the ring so they change to those new rings!!!
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