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Best race for CW still Tiefling?
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Last post I could find was 2013, so just wondering, Tiefling still best in terms of PVE dps for CW? My understanding is that the Dragon Born racial bonuses apply to your Power and Crit stats (multiplicative, not additive), so someone with 20k power would get an extra 600 (20,000 x 0.03), correct?
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Dragonborn Fury gives multiplicative +3% power and crit (they are ratings, not statistics btw).
Personally, I run with about 30k power and 20k crit (not even counting buffs) so dragonborn results being much better than Tiefling.
30k power × 3% = 900 power; 900 power ÷ 353.767 = ~2.54% more damage.
20k crit × 3% = 600 crit; 600 crit ÷ 399.795 = ~1.5% more critical chance.
And I am still 3.3k only, thus Dragonborn will result in much better results on BiS characters.
In summary, Tiefling is better for weak characters (aka noobs) and Dragonborn is better for well geared characters.
If you can afford, Metallic Dragonborn looks even better option for BiS characters, and some voices talks it's price will drop a few times soon.
such as Valindra's Tower, Lair of Losmauth, Gray Wolf Den.
The exception is Temple of Spider. Personally, I think the first 25% is most dangerous in ToS.
5% extra damage when boss is less than 50% health is well suited for many final boss fights.
Besides, some well-geared players are already at 100% critical chance.
Focused Wizardy (3): +30% at solo and -10% aoe
depend on your build and dungeon, but even if you still using Steal Time its boost your overall average dmg (for 5-20% btw)
Presdigitation(3): +1-3% stat bonus to all
like Dragonborn bonus, but for all stats and allies
Learned Spellcaster(5): +1-5% dmg boost from INT
With max 27INT (18int+7lvl+2roll) is 17%dmg + for 1point=1.17%, 2=2.34%, 3=3.51%, 4=4.68%, 5=5.85%
for e.g with Focused Wizardy (In this case you lose 1 point in Blighting Power or Arcane Enhancemen):
- as Dragonborn u choose between Presdigitation(2/3) and Learned Spellcaster (2/5): +2% stats OR 2.34% dmg
- as Human -2 stat points(usually from CHA: -2% Crit and -2% CAD), but u can get additional +3.5% dmg with LS(5/5) + 5.85% dmg
Also u may max Blighting Power, Arcane Enhancemen and choose between FW,LS,Pres... the point is that the Human additional 3 points will give a more damage.OR Presdigitation(3/3) + Learned Spellcaster (2/5): +3% stats and 2.34% dmg
IMHO, If you cant afford R10-12 Bonding Runestones then Presdigitation and Dragonborn not for you.
And with Runestones its doesn't matter who you are: Tiefling, Human or Dragonborn... who`s quickly reaching to the foes - do damage :*
- 29s cutscene
- 10s dragon fight (downto ~40% hp)
- 44s mid game: avoiding rocks (no dragon)
- 5s dragon fight (downto 0 hp)
And 2. ,4. propably far less with BiS team.I would strongly argue with your description.
And I need to strongly disagree with your statement aswell. Most of the buffs won't apply fast enough on 4., because of it lasts too short, thus DPS will be less (compared to 2.) and thus, resulting in less than 50% eff. of this 5% buff of overall DPS. I would say, that this 5% increases overall DPS by ~2% on lostmauth, but it futher varies.
PS Side note: (10+5)s/(29+10+44+5)s = Only ~17% (and less with BiS characters) of Lostmauth's last boss is actually fighting itself.
And you know, what's sad? This will not change in mod8: see: PROPHECY OF MADNESS PHASES SHOULD END AFTER GAINING GOLD.
On test server, with 4 PuGs, we gain 1m fight of 5m phase, it's already 20% and will decrease strongly with well geared upto BiS party.
Yup, the end game keeps the same: Watching cutscenes and just… waiting for the next phase, boss comeback etc.
5s to kill Lostmauth from avoid rocks to end is only for very high dps party, not majority of Neverwinter players (many are new players because veterans have left or play infrequently). If all boss fights only last seconds, then choose a race based on appearance because more dps is not needed.
Who do you think needs your advice on this CW forum? BiS players? or new players?
I suggest posting more info for new players instead of frequently mentioning BiS players who need little or no help.
Again, if majority of fight on preview server is waiting, then choose any race, because more dps is not needed. right? or no?
I frequently solo queue for dungeons, and from my personal experience, boss fights are the biggest obstacle for new/poorly geared players, especially the final boss fight. The first half of Lostmauth fight is much easier than second half. Much more red circles and lava to avoid during the second part of Losmauth final boss fight.
Don't tell that I give advice for BiS only, it's clearly a lie, look my 2 post ago in this thread: Read with understanding.
And… If you want to be better in future, think what will be better for you in future, not now, when you are still weak.
Well… what is the point of retraining now for tiefling, beacause it's better now if you'll still have to retrain again to dragonborn in future. Isn't it better to get dragonborn right now and do just one retraining instead of two?
I do not post lies on this forum.
The original poster is probably already tiefling. He writes ".... still tiefling" and "Tiefling still best ..."?
If he were already Dragonborn, then why would he ask about Dragonborn?