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schweifer1982
Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,662 Arc User
We are stuck with SH at rank 4 and we cannot progress the AD req and the tyranny req are too big to do it with 20-30 ppl.
We dont want to jump/leave and buy our gear from other guilds SH.
At least remove the AD cost of the guild hall its too much we will never ever reach lvl 20!
We need gear to enchants /artifacts/companions/mounts etc etc .
The ad cap is 24 k and buying zen and exchange it for ad only boost our gear lvl -ing .
But to upgrade the SH this is too much 260 mill ad req for stronghold lvl 20 for 20-30 player this is brutal sum.
15-20 mill /char.
Pls help the little guilds we already lost our fun with SH. Its hopless for us.
We dont want to jump/leave and buy our gear from other guilds SH.
At least remove the AD cost of the guild hall its too much we will never ever reach lvl 20!
We need gear to enchants /artifacts/companions/mounts etc etc .
The ad cap is 24 k and buying zen and exchange it for ad only boost our gear lvl -ing .
But to upgrade the SH this is too much 260 mill ad req for stronghold lvl 20 for 20-30 player this is brutal sum.
15-20 mill /char.
Pls help the little guilds we already lost our fun with SH. Its hopless for us.
GWF 3700Ilvl Éjsötét & ProPala 3200Ilvl Menydörgés (main) & Szürkefarkas 2600 ilvl
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There should be different requirements for donations for small and medium sized guilds. If it continues like this, then we'll only have pockets of larger guilds remaining, with the smaller and medium guild Strongholds being like ghost towns.
I dont even want to dream to lvl up our SH to rank 16 and get the artifact weapons and offhand .
We lost the fun its pointless to buy keys to open the chest from wizard HE.
PLS help us remove the ad cost or give us another source of AD vounchers or idk...
Astral Diamonds? Nearly 2.8 million.
(Please note that my calculations start at GH L4)
The amounts are a bit much... and my active membership is waning because people are sick and tired of grinding out Tyranny of Dragons dailies over the course of two or three weeks to get the excessive amount of Tyranny Treasures... also, people are starting to do the make and seeing that there is not that good of an upgrade from the purple Elven gear to the DF gear... more motivation gone.
It's really sad... this Mod has had so much promise.
"...I grab my wiener and charge!" - ironzerg79
But current meta is only large guilds have fun.
They req is absurd /daly ad donate 2k i lvl have at least 1 perfect weapon enchants play at least 8 hour a day . (this is not fun its work)
Join AD donate then scam kick from guild and i can go on...
The best and honest guilds are already filled up .
We dont have any options those stuff are already outdated before we even cath up to the minimum lvl .
Just one thing example :GGpvp Big guild member TR I.lvl 4300 with more then one guild boon new pvp gear.
90% deflect and 35%ls etc etc..
7 high graded(above i.lvl 3 k) ppl cant even move her hp down and kill him in 10 min.
This is not about enchats and pay to win .
This is about more have luck to join in a honest guild hou dont have super high req.
Smal guild will be dead soon.
Things that need immediate looking at:
AD requirements.
Previous campaign currency requirements. More specifically the ToD stuff. I have not noticed any other currency needing 300k+ for one level.
Equipment
I have resigned myself to never seeing the equipment from the Stronghold. I know that this won't be the BiS gear in a Mod or two and frankly we won't have GH8 market 4 before then so really what is the motive to continue on with this HAMSTER?
And...
No we won't be.
"...I grab my wiener and charge!" - ironzerg79
Still, I wouldn't despair, they will eventually do something about it.
Probably they're keeping it like this to drain AD out of the economy and when they'll come up with a new sink they'll lower these silly requirements.
It's all about waiting...
Example: Say a small guild (<=50 accounts) has a 50% requirement of large guilds (150 accounts), and a medium guild (<=100 accounts) has a 75% requirement of large guilds. If a small guild were to grow into a medium guild, a Rank 8 Stronghold would become a Rank 6 Stronghold, as the targets for donations would be increased.
Perhaps also make it so that a small guild could only have a maximum Stronghold size of, say, 16 (hence, they would still need to recruit players to achieve a level 20 structure, but it won't impede their progress in attaining the SH Weapons and Armor. Certain items e.g. Dragon Slayer Glyphs requiring a Rank 10 Marketplace would be out of their reach). This would therefore make it less appealing for a large guild to suddenly downsize and see their structures increase in level, as it would limit their overall progress (or perhaps they could make it so that downsizing a guild will not have an effect on existing guild structure levels to prevent this from happening).
In any case, I don't think the development of Strongholds were thoroughly thought through to account for smaller or medium sized guilds, which leaves out a considerable number of players in enjoying content within a reasonable time-frame.
with Cryptic STO (star trek online), they have fleet (guilds), and recently added as "Armada" which is mean as several fleet guilds join to support smaller fleet teams.
so, what i am offering as "Guild Alliances" for bigger guilds can help smaller guilds.
There is some work involved in managing larger guilds..
Im not saying SH couldn't use a reduction of materials needed, its ridiculous(AD especially), but THE system is open for you to move guilds or RECRUIT more for yours, SH was known for months and months .. I moved to a big , active , requirement type of guild, because it FIT my play style. My other guild was inactive for ages with maybe a dozen left (from once 300 accounts).
I think the following.
A. reduction of materials needed for AD, Gems, LABOR, and tyranny ect campaigns would be good. They are super high even for larger guilds at times.
B. LET influence drop FROM any HE on ANY map.. Viola, you want to get influence done, might as well get 5 stones in IWD instead.. still leveling a toon, fine, get a few in spinward ect.. DOING herald stomp> Great.. get influence from that..
C. Let vouchers drop from all random mobs in ALL zones across the maps,skirms and dungeons.. again, so IT DOESN'T limit you in stronghold itself.
D. REDUCE voucher, to just one voucher, streamline the process.. a voucher is worth at green ten points, blue fifty and purple 100.. since they will drop all over the place, you will get more to turn in, TO WHATEVER your guild needed.
RUN 3 elols today, get 25 vouchers of different worth.. turn them in to tyranny.
THIS WAY its not so boring and we dont HAVE to go back to old zones no one wants to do for no other purpose..
ITS better then what we have.
corporationguild with drama, spam etc. bs.if i was in such a guild i would have never returned after i left for mod3, then mod 5 and then for end of mod6 and start of mod7
sh should be for all guilds, not only the big ones
Well I have problems with the dungeoneer's shards, as I am the only active member of my guild, and I can not run dungeons due to bad interactions with my graphics card and one or two spells.
So it's becoming more like other free to play games that end up costing more than a susbscription based game's and a clever buisness modle except they seem to have gotten it a little of target.
I understand they have to make money but not at the exspense of the quality of the game.
If I'm wrong then why where so many fired a while back? It all smells like money before quality so I don't think you'll have a chance to get anything changed. Just look ingame at all the defunked stuff they just left thats void now vendors that sell level 60 items that you can't get till level 70 lol. Look at all the bugs and gliches people use to get an advantage. Tonnes of different forums online are full of people passing ways to cheat by using glitches, broken feats, items and builds ect to get an advantage or make ad illegaly, it's no wonder a few sites list neverwinter as buggy and full of exploits as its biggest con. This game was once pretty great and still could be but it just feels like they don't give a hoot anymore. lol thats how I see it anyway
I would like to see the things you mentioned addressed too, but until then or if things don't trurn out the way we wish to see them, i would like to offer you the same invite you offered me, when i had some difficulties.
We are SEMPER FIDELIS. The guild is international, but there are more Europeans and many from surrounding countries, so you could speak your/our native language and if i am correct, that your 2nd language is German, that too (i speak it as 2nd one too:) ) We would like to welcome you, your wife and your guildies, if you ever feel the need. Our guild hall is rank 5 and we have 1 boon structure under way as i write these lines. We have no obligations, everybody plays as he or she wishes and donates as much as he or she can afford. Also we give a home to all classes and have no item level requirements. We have also TS and a webpage and a forum of our own.
semper-fidelis.guildlaunch.com/
See you and good luck bro!
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the idea is all about "Alliances", any smaller guilds can join any large guild with a "Sheduled" dragonflight events so they can support themselves for thier own halls to grow.
and allow any larger guilds to assist with structure construction donations.
it is all about optional assistings.
if you and your guild dont want it, then set up for "private" when not joining the Alliances.
Thnx bro we got a few offers .
The kindest offer was from a friend she told me we can come to Buy the SH armor if we have enugh stuff. (But we all saw the new lokbox amor will obscolate the old SH T3 armor)
So there is noone intrested in our guild to us to buy even one zen key to open the SH box.
In our guild only 10 ppl left cuz others simply abandon this content, all of them was "zen buyer customer" we had around 50 active ppl before mod 6.
Now to see why i say thnx for your offer but !
We are almost reached the second boon and we have rank 5 guild (and this with 10 ppl they are really really nice guys and girls all of them mature ).
99% of our vision of boons are not match with those big guilds (and we dont want to destoy and rebuild anyithing agan not for stangers).
Our greatest problem is we can aford to buy zen from Arc time -to time .
But why whoud we do this ? Come on 10 ppl shoud gather 260 mill AD from daly 24k refine ,and what the hell suppost to do with tyranny and sharandar stuff?!!!
They dont care about us why shoud we support them?
They dont need our money and big guilds have enugh f2p billioniers to achive rank 20 SH (w/o spending 1 euro/dollar).
Why cant they look deeper into this picture ?
Btw thnx for the kind offer .
Your proposal would make big guilds an actual negative, not a positive.
Instead of an incentive people to make smaller guilds, reward them for making bigger ones..
for every ten people at lvl 70 (account not total) you have in your guild, you get a 10% donation bonus.. Get 100 unique accounts get 100% bonus. Have 50% get half the value. BUT you get way more donation value EITHER way.
This would be the best route possible, you would want as many as you could handle, in ADDITION having a unique incentive to add and keep members (IE takes a little bit of the hold over players we have now.. you wouldn't want to lose too many players, as it would hurt your bonus, but throwing out a malcontent or two wouldn't harm you that much)
In fact, Im pretty proud of this one guys! I might make a unique post about it.