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lwedarlwedar Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 790 Arc User
What would be really helpful (if AD isn't going to be added back) would be if we could get some of these Stronghold requirements from it. Example: Task: Raid Wizard temple Reward: 2 major Dark Gift voucher

Alot of the smaller guilds are struggling to upgrade, this would be a step to help
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  • regenerderegenerde Member Posts: 3,050 Arc User
    edited September 2015
    I suggested adding Stronghold Vouchers to Leadership over and over again within the threads about the AD changes.
    And i don't see a single official Dev reply to this idea.

    Adding GMoPs to the Enchanted Coffers with a slim drop chance isn't really an improvements.
    In the current state Leadership is just broken.
    Post edited by regenerde on
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  • lwedarlwedar Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 790 Arc User
    ah, gotcha. Musta have stuck in my head. It would really help out some of this grind
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  • rayrdanrayrdan Member Posts: 5,410 Arc User
    Panderus replied
  • regenerderegenerde Member Posts: 3,050 Arc User
    Going through the Devs post with
    http://nwo-uncensored.com/devtracker.php
    and i only found a post from Panderus in here
    http://forum.arcgames.com/neverwinter/discussion/1204816/temporarily-remove-3-task-limit-for-leadership
    "We will be taking a look at some of the Leadership task inconsistencies shortly and will very likely have improvements before the next module releases, but no release date as of yet."

    Would you mind linking the post directly, where Panderus replied to the idea about adding Stronghold Vouchers to Leadership?
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  • rayrdanrayrdan Member Posts: 5,410 Arc User
    I m not in the mood of searching. This idea was proposed first by ironzerg, panderus replied saying he liked it too and was a possible solution they would think about it
  • darkstarcrashdarkstarcrash Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,382 Arc User
    edited September 2015
    From one of the Preview patch notes:
    obsidiancran3 said:
    Is it possible for Leadership tasks to get AD Coffers for Strongholds to replace actual AD?
    The Strongholds AD requirements were fine when Leadership produced AD, now they are overwhelming in their requirements given that you have largely removed access to AD for many players. This would also make the time we invested in levelling Leadership valuable for those of us who did so.

    panderus said:
    That is an interesting suggestion, I will forward it along.
  • kemnimtarkaskemnimtarkas Member Posts: 838 Arc User
    Better to add some Influence vouchers (maybe a carrot for reaching max Leadership). Even a minor 25 or 35 x 3 would help hugely with some of the Stronghold levels.
  • gwynny2gwynny2 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 93 Arc User
    I don't see why you couldn't have the option of different "flavored" vouchers, just like you currently have the option of different kinds of RP. Please, if this is considered I would hope that the vouchers would be BoP or BoA.
  • zukn75zukn75 Member Posts: 364 Arc User

    Yeah I can see Stronghold vouchers being a viable route to look at for a reworking of leadership.....minor vouchers at 21-24 common tasks for AD,Influence,Surplus Equipment and labor and rare tasks at 25 for higher rank vouchers of those 4 most sought after commodities. I think shards and campaign currencies are best left in game.
  • banaancbanaanc Member Posts: 472 Arc User
    edited September 2015
    imho it should be tradeable and in a chest that drops random voucher, but 50 character accounts would f that up, i think that as long as profession slots will be /character not /account they cant add nice rewards to leadership. as always some ppl have to ruin nice stuff for others, bots ruining dragon hoard and ability to farm foundry(even if it was exploitish, it was a real work to get the RP that way) 50 character accounts ruining leadership etc.

  • regenerderegenerde Member Posts: 3,050 Arc User
    edited September 2015
    Anything a player can do, a bot can do too.
    Should we now start removing features, or not even consider adding new features to the game, only because some can (and probably will) bot it?
    Where will that end?
    Shouldn't fighting bots be a job for real GMs, while real players... well... play the game and earn rewards by playing it?
    Just saying...

    Besides rewarding those Stronghold Vouchers only for rank 21-25 tasks, the Devs could also add some kind of
    "Daily Stronghold Voucher Account Pool"
    to it.
    You could choose, if you want to use Leadership to gather those vouchers, or just run heroic encounters around your Stronghold for them, but when you reach the account pool limit, those vouchers would stop dropping anymore until the next day.

    Anyway, with looking at the requirements for Strongholds, and possible new ranks for Strongholds in future updates, there should not be a problem with adding Stronghold Vouchers to Leadership.
    Post edited by regenerde on
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  • lwedarlwedar Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 790 Arc User
    yeah, extra influence would be helpful. I know some people are getting burnt out
    "we all love this game and want it to thrive"
  • theycallmetomutheycallmetomu Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,861 Arc User
    I for one have just ceased running stronghold tasks/HEs.

    Miss the pre mod 5 model. Dread Ring and Sharandar look pretty rosey, looking back on it. Oh boons, wherefore art thou?
  • maegmaagmaegmaag Member Posts: 332 Arc User
    Not that twould be rly...well its questionable in general, but any profession tasks dedicated to any of "labor", "gem", "equipment surplus" and some of the shard or so vouchers would be nice. And by dedicated i mean they would net the "vouchers" only. Such tasks should require some other resources tho, obtainable from either dungeon or skirmish chests, epic or 70+ so they could not be "mass farmable" (botted eventually).

    And yes, i do consider Sharandar a rose as well nowadays, if i took it for fresh well grown lawn during its release (hope that makes sense).
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  • regenerderegenerde Member Posts: 3,050 Arc User
    edited September 2015
    As mentioned, an account wide daily Stronghold Voucher pool in combination with placing the Stronghold Voucher in the rank 21-25 leadership tasks should prevent any "mass farming", or slow it down considerably.

    Looking at the amount of resources needed to build and upgrade a Stronghold, i'm not sure, why even more restrictions should be created for this...
    Post edited by regenerde on
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