Ban premades from GG

chambermancer · September 2015

I've tried to do five straight GGs today: every single one of them infested by premades farming PUGs. This game has become unplayable for PvP. It's so bad now I can't even get one win for the daily AD in 1+ hour of queuing the GG matchmaking casino for a fair fight that is winnable. I don't have time to literally waste 1-2 hours of every day simply trying to get a pvp match that somewhat resembles a fair fight. Let the premades go against each other in dom. Yes the matchmaking sucks in this game, but equal share of the blame falls on these trash guilds exploiting the system and ruining the game for everybody else. They know full well 90% of the time they will get all pugs to go against who stand no chance of winning. Since these loser guilds won't stop, they'll need to be made to stop.

What's hilarious is when a premade accidentally gets in vs another premade, the first team to wipe quits! LOL!!!! They're just there to farm pugs and ruin the game for anybody who isn't them! End this!

rollingonit · September 2015

It's been asked for, for years now. We suggested either brackets or premade/solo queues. Nothing. Why? So BIS CS players can take advantage of non BIS non CS players. Why do I know this cause it's how it works in f2p MMOs. I was once a close to BIS CS player in a diff f2p MMO in the strongest guild of the faction. That's just what happens when you have large gap between power between those 2 playerbases.

I warned if you waited too long to do this, it would fragment the community too much and make queues unbearable long waits. It's too late for that. That's what will happen now if they separate the queues.

Again if they do it, itll lead to more issues; cause they waited too long.

malfoir · September 2015

Benefits to play pvp were good and game mode was fun on mod1 - 5(some FOTM class failures), but mod7 brought really bad situation because stronghold requires ridiculous amount resources... most newcomers playes few times pvp, then try find guild or premade so they can win and then they quit pvp.

I just stopped pvp after i found that it is not rewarding and so on...

drkbodhi · September 2015

If you are tired of the way things are in GG and PvP in general... join the OfficialPuGPvP channel. It is public now some all you have to do is join the channel. We now have 45 very skilled casual and committed PvP aficionados who enjoy the channel. It is a heavily moderated channel by all of the members...

Based on the matches I have helped build from the group members: We are 1 win/2 losses in Dom and 6 wins/3 losses in GG... either way... still a winning record.

BTW... ALL PVP can be rewarding... if you have the right people with you. In fact I like to run matches with all new members... to help them acclimate. I will even put a match on "hold" to chat with someone about the channel... I still placed 3rd.

vinceent1 · September 2015

Cryptic rule number1 - Players are plague, we need to avoid.
Cryptic rule number 2 - Dont reply on suggestions about pvp changes. We just bring them place where they can killing each other, no need to focus this thing more

i am sure its far number one issue for pvp communitty over years. I dont remember single reply from devs over it. How do you feel about that, devs?

icyphish · September 2015

This will never happen, cus there will always be players 'wanting to play their friends', doesn't matter if they are lowly geared or BiS players, the core of MMO is to have People Playing Together (and in many cases with Family Members, Friends or Guildies) so restricting them from playing together defeats the purpose of a MMORPG.

I suggest people seek for other more practical ways to overcome this concern.

vinceent1 · September 2015

dont troll icyphish, they can play with friends at arena.

so you suggest what exactly?

jumpingmorks · September 2015

chambermancer said:
I've tried to do five straight GGs today: every single one of them infested by premades farming PUGs. This game has become unplayable for PvP. It's so bad now I can't even get one win for the daily AD in 1+ hour of queuing the GG matchmaking casino for a fair fight that is winnable. I don't have time to literally waste 1-2 hours of every day simply trying to get a pvp match that somewhat resembles a fair fight. Let the premades go against each other in dom. Yes the matchmaking sucks in this game, but equal share of the blame falls on these trash guilds exploiting the system and ruining the game for everybody else. They know full well 90% of the time they will get all pugs to go against who stand no chance of winning. Since these loser guilds won't stop, they'll need to be made to stop.

What's hilarious is when a premade accidentally gets in vs another premade, the first team to wipe quits! LOL!!!! They're just there to farm pugs and ruin the game for anybody who isn't them! End this!

Premades hate premades, why, because there is no easy roflstomp of undergeared players, I remember one person clearly when they said, they are going to troll pugs out of the queues and have nothing but their own guilds to pvp against. By then the effects will be irreversible.

You cannot reason with these people, they absolutely believe they have skill to do be able to do this to the undergeared, name calling, insults and put downs are common.

Last gg I had a BiS GWF took me on with npc's attacking me. They'd won, I made it clear I just wanted to farm npc's but he spent 4-6 minutes hammering on my 3k GF (npc's have no tenacity so Fighter's Recovery was like 100% LS) until his friends joined in and finished me. He had no concept that he lacked skill, to him he was a baddass and me just a scrub.

jumpingmorks · September 2015

oops double post

hoofit · September 2015

PvP is fun but premade groups and guild groups should have there own GG and dom pvp. Also better matchmaking is a must for this game atm it's truley awfull and I have watched it get worse and worse it's almost as if the devolopers have coded the game so that all people who have spent money go on one team with all high geared people and on the other team low geared people and 95% of the time its a slaughter match be it on the winning team or loseing team these matches are never fun quite the opersite they are boring after all who wants to stand there and watch the odd idiot try to get up on the enermy platform, i can stand in PE if I want to stand Cryptic you need to pay attention to make sure you understand that this needs an overhaul and has for years the fact at 70 the gear divide is so massive now makes a new 70 against a fully kitted maxed out 70 like crushing a flower under foot not really fun for either unless you have delusions of grandure or suffer from low self asteme. Then we get ontp the matter of broken powers and classes, need I say paladin, HR trapper roots and perma stealth, the last one gets them going lol. All these class characters need an over haul for pvp atm they really unbalance a match I know this from observation in many matches.
At least the gates not opening hasnt happened in a week and the entering pvp with one side 2 and the other 5 hasnt happened in a week, but the thing I have noticed is games are still starting where the enermy team has all ready taken all points before you even arive in pvp. I'd love to hear from cryptic about pvp and why it's left in the awfull state it is but I doubt a reply will ever be forth coming which is frustrating for so many.

Ban premades from GG

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