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190 days to wait while Guild Hall improves itself from level 1 to level 20? (building time only)

matisszmatissz Member Posts: 22 Arc User
edited August 2015 in Player Feedback (PC)
Not counting other buildings that need to be built.
Do not see any average guild would have patience for it.
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  • greyhawken777greyhawken777 Member Posts: 56 Arc User
    "I want my level 20 GH, and I want it NOW!"
    :p
  • kreatyvekreatyve Member, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 10,545 Community Moderator
    I believe they want our Strongholds to last through several Mods, not just the immediate Mod 7. That's why they have areas you can't get to yet, to add more stuff later. :D
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  • matisszmatissz Member Posts: 22 Arc User
    It's not about wanting things fast. Do not feel progress. Maybe stronghold with more buildings but build-able faster would be better. Combined duration could stay same. Like dividing big project to multiple parts, with some small rewards. And it would be nice if you can build something small, but each day, so you can each day see how it is changing.
  • yokki1yokki1 Member Posts: 451 Arc User
    edited August 2015
    matissz said:

    It's not about wanting things fast. Do not feel progress. Maybe stronghold with more buildings but build-able faster would be better. Combined duration could stay same. Like dividing big project to multiple parts, with some small rewards. And it would be nice if you can build something small, but each day, so you can each day see how it is changing.

    adding lots of buildings instead of few would require work and you know....
  • umscheumsche Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 461 Arc User
    Except for the last level, you need more time gathering stuff needed for the upgrade than the building time anyway.
  • instynctiveinstynctive Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,885 Arc User

    thats the point, get a GH to 20 isn't for the average guild.

    My "average guild" will have a GH L20. Maybe not this year, but we will have one.

    Simply because we want one. And we're willing to work for it.

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  • emilemoemilemo Member Posts: 1,718 Arc User
    edited September 2015
    kreatyve said:

    I believe they want our Strongholds to last through several Mods, not just the immediate Mod 7. That's why they have areas you can't get to yet, to add more stuff later. :D

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  • muuli30muuli30 Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    matissz said:

    Not counting other buildings that need to be built.
    Do not see any average guild would have patience for it.

    Well, we see that game lose each average/small guilds or we see ZEN -shop get "Boost pack for Guildhall" coming.... maybe we see both.

    ...and then pvp and pve is separated, "Whale Guild" smash each other in pvp and keep elitist recruiting ongoing... fear lose guild memebership, pay tribute to guild... betray for power, :D

  • cesukecesuke Member Posts: 311 Arc User
    Men u will be happier if u could full build the Stronghold in one hour ? Or just do a "Kill 10 creeps" quest to get full endgame gear ? That had no sense... MMOs are MMOs because are competives, u left ppl behind... And run after the ppl that is forward trying to be the best of the best.
  • canmanncanmann Member Posts: 203 Arc User
    cesuke said:

    Men u will be happier if u could full build the Stronghold in one hour ? Or just do a "Kill 10 creeps" quest to get full endgame gear ? That had no sense... MMOs are MMOs because are competives, u left ppl behind... And run after the ppl that is forward trying to be the best of the best.

    These quotes are great examples of folks that just don't get what the poster is getting at.... he is not asking to "Kill 10 creeps" and have everything. They are simply stating that waiting for JUST the guild hall to build is going to take 6 and one third MONTHS!!!

    They have time gated this mod to the extreme as well as resource gated.

    There are so many examples in this mod that the devs simply do not play or have any clue how the players play their game.

    Good luck out there the grind is strong in this Mod.
  • drkbodhidrkbodhi Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,378 Arc User
    I was in the PTS leveling up the CAT SH... and I realized that this would take a lot longer, unless someone was buying vouchers during the entire time.

    I am thinking that unless someone is spending A LOT of money on vouchers... taking the GH to 20 will take around a year to happen. I would say the guild size would have to be close to max... and every account would be very active.

    The amount of money I am talking about here... is in the realm of 10's of thousands of dollars... for pixels.​​
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  • rickcase276rickcase276 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,404 Arc User
    Try my guild with only me active. There is little to no chance for me to even think about getting to a guild hall of level 10, let alone 20. I am within a few days of guildhall level 2, that is if I buy gems off the auction house. I just hope that guild hall level 3 will be able to be done, and it means 4 total level 1 buildings, including the guildhall. As there is no way I can build any of the towers as I do not pvp, and for 4 other buildings at level 1 that would require one tower.
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  • rickcase276rickcase276 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,404 Arc User
    edited September 2015
    Which is weird as it says in the upgrade part of guildhall 3 that it requires 4 other structures at level 1. Well need to be at guildhall level 3 to be able to get to marketplace level 2, as you need a quarry. But I still think that with one person, 16 characters, to even be close to level 2 at this point is not too bad.

    And at this moment marketplace level 2 is my goal, as most of my alts need the guild armor, as they are wearing Thayan Servitor or level 70 trash blue armors.
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  • rickcase276rickcase276 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,404 Arc User
    I may have to eventually move my main to a different guild, but at the moment I will continue to do what I can do. It would have to be a guild with stables, as armor pen is the boon that my DC really needs, more than any other.
  • balorinbalorin Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 132 Arc User
    190 days ok, but do you seriously think that the actual content need +8000 stats to be done especially with the recent fix about arpen mob damages, the answer is no.
    So it' obvious that this module was built with the clear idea to be "usefull" later, for mod 8 or 9, or if they up the character level to 80 with new stat curves hahahaha ^^.
  • kreatyvekreatyve Member, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 10,545 Community Moderator
    emilemo said:

    kreatyve said:

    I believe they want our Strongholds to last through several Mods, not just the immediate Mod 7. That's why they have areas you can't get to yet, to add more stuff later. :D

    Are you really this happy about Neverwinter? Just a lil curious
    Of course I am! I love this game! Even with some of the issues, it's still extremely fun. :D I have a really awesome guild, I've made a ton of friends. The combat system is better than any other MMO I've ever played - and I have played a fair few MMOs. There are still so many things that you can do in the game if you get bored with what you are doing. So many ways to either challenge yourself or have fun. :D If you think the game's too easy - try removing some enchants or gear to make it more of a challenge. If you think it's too hard, make some friends in the game to play with and help each other gear up. :dizzy:

    More on topic, Team Fencebane just last night started building their guild hall to Rank 4. I know other guilds are already beyond that, but we sure have had a great time gathering things so far. :D I personally can't wait to see what else we accomplish together. :D
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  • drkbodhidrkbodhi Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,378 Arc User
    kreatyve wrote: »
    I believe they want our Strongholds to last through several Mods, not just the immediate Mod 7. That's why they have areas you can't get to yet, to add more stuff later. :D

    Are you really this happy about Neverwinter? Just a lil curious

    Of course I am! I love this game! Even with some of the issues, it's still extremely fun. :D I have a really awesome guild, I've made a ton of friends. The combat system is better than any other MMO I've ever played - and I have played a fair few MMOs. There are still so many things that you can do in the game if you get bored with what you are doing. So many ways to either challenge yourself or have fun. :D If you think the game's too easy - try removing some enchants or gear to make it more of a challenge. If you think it's too hard, make some friends in the game to play with and help each other gear up. :dizzy:

    More on topic, Team Fencebane just last night started building their guild hall to Rank 4. I know other guilds are already beyond that, but we sure have had a great time gathering things so far. :D I personally can't wait to see what else we accomplish together. :D

    All of us in CA share this enthusiasm... well... I believe we do... lol.​​
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  • suicidalgodotsuicidalgodot Member Posts: 2,465 Arc User
    edited September 2015
    ...maybe this is just the setting of stage for the next gen event weekend: 2x construction, masons' union luvs da Guild - but only if fed with Dire Bear ham. And Dragon liver for an additional flat once-per-day 10000 Construction Point boost...

    :^D
  • gromme12gromme12 Member Posts: 14 Arc User

    ...maybe this is just the setting of stage for the next gen event weekend: 2x construction, masons' union luvs da Guild - but only if fed with Dire Bear ham. And Dragon liver for an additional flat once-per-day 10000 Construction Point boost...

    :^D

    ...hmmmm, and those exotics ingredients are available in ZEN -shop... >:)
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