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No more penetration-damage resistance bug in dungeons :)

mamalion1234mamalion1234 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 3,415 Arc User
Just we made a temple of spider was the first time i see my gf teamate never go down + his hp at most times full. The best fix ever thanks.

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  • dfncedfnce Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 509 Arc User
    edited August 2015
    That how it is supposed to work since first day of mod 6. I have feeling that without our community manager intervention it would never been fixed. My thanks comes to him.
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  • matthiasthehun76matthiasthehun76 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,184 Arc User
    Finally!

    After so many threads and wasted blood, sadly it won't bring back those, who went off cause of mostly this after Mod 6. They really should have fixed it in couple of days after initial release, then our guilds ( those, who survived) would look immensely bigger.
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  • kemi1984kemi1984 Member Posts: 849 Arc User
    Haven't had the time to check it myself yesterday...but I will be really happy (I mean really happy!) if that would prevent from those OH'ks that's killing the tanking for me.
    Can't wait to run a D now...
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  • wentriswentris Member Posts: 542 Arc User
    edited August 2015
    At last the mod 6 dungeons curse is gone. Great fix, even though a bit late. Im wondering if the game wont be too easy now - at least from OP perspective. I dont know what experienced GFs say about that - if they think the game is in right spot - its time to nerf OP - I wont mind it at all, with this fix I survive way more than I need.
  • kemi1984kemi1984 Member Posts: 849 Arc User
    Well you have one fairly experienced GF right here.

    If one shots are history, than it will be much more fun to play. Even with the stupid damage spikes dungeons were very much doable, but eating dirt every so often was not something I can call "cool ! dungs are at last challenging".

    It wasn't challenging or hard, it was freaking dumb.

    Although one thing was good in the dungeons from beg of mod 6. From my perspective we should be aiming to tackle specific mobs from the start of the encounter = archers.They should be killed asap and they should be pain in the rear.

    If all else fails, it should stay that way even for the disparity reason.
    If I recall at previous modules there were do disparity. You would just jump right in, and just AOE everything into oblivion. That was't fun after a while and got old fast.

    But than again, I don't want to see 100k with from the archer...make them attack faster, move more, try to dodge or something alike. They should be mobile not a standing cannons hitting like a truck.
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    2). Yes. I am panzer!
    3). Get ACT if you want to celebrate your epeen.
    4). Horniness will not stand between me and what I believe - "MM"
  • wentriswentris Member Posts: 542 Arc User
    Corrected an issue that caused enemies to apply their armor penetration incorrectly. Additionally this fix will prevent incorrect stacking of enemy armor penetration.
    I think this part is as important as part, where our DR vs mobs ArPen was going lower and lower. Now I get hit for far less damage, than before even right after death. Furthermore my TR doesnt feel the difference that much, while my friends GWF on determination (destroyer) becomes quite tanky. Im not sure what exactly they changed in formulas - maybe earlier mobs ArPen worked like defense debuff? - but now stacking DR gives significantly more survivability for all classes.
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  • plasticbatplasticbat Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 12,456 Arc User
    edited August 2015
    To put that in some perspective, my friend who is a GWF and had no T1 gear. He was wearing black ice gear.

    He more or less earned a full T1 gear last night.

    He went MC, VT, KR the first time last night and that gave him 3 T1 gears including 2 T1 armors (assault and ward from the same dungeon run), 4 T1 head (2 assault and 2 ward from the same dungeon run), another T1 piece from KR. He also did a few dragonflight runs. He had enough seals to buy the last piece.

    I forgot how long that took me to complete a T1 set. He now has a T1 set AND spares to mix and match the attributes AND extra to be salvage. One night work with BI gear.
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  • santralafaxsantralafax Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,896 Arc User

    To put that in some perspective, my friend who is a GWF and had no T1 gear. He was wearing black ice gear.

    He more or less earned a full T1 gear last night.

    He went MC, VT, KR the first time last night and that gave him 3 T1 gears including 2 T1 armors (assault and ward from the same dungeon run), 4 T1 head (2 assault and 2 ward from the same dungeon run), another T1 piece from KR. He also did a few dragonflight runs. He had enough seals to buy the last piece.

    I forgot how long that took me to complete a T1 set. He now has a T1 set AND spares to mix and match the attributes AND extra to be salvage. One night work with BI gear.

    Is t1 gear that much better than bi gear?
  • plasticbatplasticbat Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 12,456 Arc User
    edited August 2015

    To put that in some perspective, my friend who is a GWF and had no T1 gear. He was wearing black ice gear.

    He more or less earned a full T1 gear last night.

    He went MC, VT, KR the first time last night and that gave him 3 T1 gears including 2 T1 armors (assault and ward from the same dungeon run), 4 T1 head (2 assault and 2 ward from the same dungeon run), another T1 piece from KR. He also did a few dragonflight runs. He had enough seals to buy the last piece.

    I forgot how long that took me to complete a T1 set. He now has a T1 set AND spares to mix and match the attributes AND extra to be salvage. One night work with BI gear.

    Is t1 gear that much better than bi gear?
    HP wise. Yes.
    However, my point was how long I took to get T1 gear (when I was wearing BI) comparing with how long my friend could get the same (and actually more) after the patch.

    On the other hand, we may not need as much HP to survive after the patch.
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  • hustin1hustin1 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 3,467 Arc User
    I'm definitely going to have to break my HR out and do a test dungeon run. Once the painkillers kick in...
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  • braceguilderbraceguilder Member Posts: 45 Arc User
    edited August 2015

    Finally!

    After so many threads and wasted blood, sadly it won't bring back those, who went off cause of mostly this after Mod 6. They really should have fixed it in couple of days after initial release, then our guilds ( those, who survived) would look immensely bigger.

    not more than 150 players though :V


    we'll see about this fix... I'm gonna test for myself

    (if this finally resolves the problem) it must have been a hell of a bug if it took 5 months to resolve it...

    right?
  • bushman1313bushman1313 Member Posts: 17 Arc User

    Just we made a temple of spider was the first time i see my gf teamate never go down + his hp at most times full. The best fix ever thanks.

    This is good to know, need play and test... maybe some fun dungeon runs can be done now, ;).

  • regenerderegenerde Member Posts: 3,050 Arc User
    edited August 2015

    But, now we have the usual crowd saying they are too easy. Coming patch-increased enemies HP by 100 percent and increased damage by 300 percent.lol

    Let us hope, that the Devs will ignore this, as long as they ignored the issue with the dungeons before...
    Well, who am i kidding, they'll probably have allready a raise in difficulty ready for the next patch, right?
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  • regenerderegenerde Member Posts: 3,050 Arc User
    edited August 2015
    The Devs, or rather the Managment, only plan towards getting players to spend as much money as possible.
    + XP to level up and overflow increase -> XB boosters in the ZEN shop
    + extreme grind to upgrade Strongholds -> Stronghold packs in the ZEN shop

    I have no problem with paying for a game, and then getting some fun in return... but at the moment, it feels like the Devs or the Managment have forgotten, that games should be fun and not just one grind added to another grind.
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