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mamalion1234mamalion1234 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 3,415 Arc User
AS my title says change double refine at end semptember. My guild work hard to get a guild hall level 8 and with cryptic bugs on influence we will not have ready our guild hall to get our weapons. ONly guilds who payed zen for influence will get level 8 before double refine. ARE we missing the part this game is free to play ? I repeat for many days my guild wasnt able to get the right amount of influence because of the bugs.

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  • lirithiellirithiel Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,482 Arc User
    Why? As I understand it you won't need to refine your SH weapons if the EE ones were already legendary. You trade in like for like afaik. Holding off on double RP event for this seems rather pointless.
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  • theycallmetomutheycallmetomu Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,861 Arc User
    REQUEST DENIED!!!

    I'd strongly prefer the RP event to be sooner rather than later.
  • mamalion1234mamalion1234 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 3,415 Arc User
    xm you dont know that you can craft ee weapon through tyrany campaign then salvage it for green sh get green sh and throw in the legendary..............
  • caladon2caladon2 Member Posts: 53 Arc User
    REQUEST DENIED!!!

    I'd strongly prefer the RP event to be sooner rather than later.

    I agree completely, between the rp and vouchers filling up our bags, we need to get rid of this stuff.
  • ravenwings22ravenwings22 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 13 Arc User
    I agree with the OP, saw this after making a similar post:

    http://www.arcgames.com/en/forums#/discussion/1202553/rank-8-guild-hall-by-x2rp-impossible

    Firstly, the influence requirement is brutal, with a cap of 400 per day and each rank requiring 100k or more. Secondly, the wait time for each upgrade is ridiculous. I'm in a pretty active guild and we are waiting for the upgrade from rank 4 to rank 5 of our Guild Hall -- it takes FOUR DAYS. I can imagine it will just take more and more time with each rank up.

    So I'm wondering, will even the top guilds in this game be able to rank up their guild hall to rank 8 in time to take advantage of Double Refinement? Is it even possible?

    Would be interesting to hear from others in very active guilds -- what is the status of your guild hall right now? And does anyone know the upgrade time to rank 6, 7 and 8?
  • wylonuswylonus Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,376 Arc User
    my guild still stuck with trying to reach tier 3, and it cost massive amount of astral diamonds, and the rest are "maxed" and i cant donate any vouchers, it really need Influence raised and make some limited per character so they dont pull all-out donations before anyone else get chances to spend vouchers.
    it made me think devs are really short sighted and not clearly thinking in advance to deal with issues, just my opinion, they need to expand more menu, not just a single contruction, but added "special" side contructions like as Patrol teams, "replanting young trees" for lumberyard which was harvested, farming seeds for crops.

    Star Trek Online has couple of optional donations format, and Stronghold seem more so singlar one way format and that now causing bottlenecking for many characters when they cant donate since some "coffer" menu are full.

    personally, i would put those vouchers as currencies instead of item.
  • picar66picar66 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 118 Arc User
    Beside the high influence costs and daily limits, can you tell me where to get guildmarks after guildhall ist lvl 20 and all buildings are maxed out?
    Have to leave guild and build a new one?
    What if a new member come to the guild and all is maxed. No way for him to get guildmarks needed for armor and weapons?
    Our guild is far far away from that point but it is a question not answered.
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  • silverkeltsilverkelt Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 4,235 Arc User
    WELL even thought I hate the rp grind and the VERY notion that it somehow entertains us (it doesnt) regardless of that.. who cares, we will have another one after that.. after you trade in your gear, just save up again. I know its annoying as heck, but again, the point is , they gave it to us for entertainment purposes. I guess enjoy?

  • plasticbatplasticbat Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 12,463 Arc User
    Move up to do that this weekend and another one after the end of September.
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  • instynctiveinstynctive Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,885 Arc User
    Continuous "gimme gimme gimme gimme".

    Honestly, if I was a decision-maker and too many people were crying about their GH L8 and arti weapons and whatever else, I'd cancel 2xRP.

    But then again, I've always been a sadistic DM.
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  • aratecharatech Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 269 Arc User
    edited August 2015
    Continuous "gimme gimme gimme gimme".

    Honestly, if I was a decision-maker and too many people were crying about their GH L8 and arti weapons and whatever else, I'd cancel 2xRP.

    But then again, I've always been a sadistic DM.

    And when those players sod off to another game because they're tired of the grind and you lose that revenue stream? Or for that matter, the revenue stream you would have gotten from the x2 event because people would be far more willing to dump their Zen into the game either for ADX or straight up purchases because now they need coal and preservation wards because they're about to start upgrading like mad?


  • wentriswentris Member Posts: 542 Arc User
    lirithiel wrote: »
    Why? As I understand it you won't need to refine your SH weapons if the EE ones were already legendary. You trade in like for like afaik. Holding off on double RP event for this seems rather pointless.

    Nope, I think many people still have wrong idea how changing EE weapons to SH weapons work.
    1. You can change the same iLvl weapons to other type of weapons, since different SH sets have different bonuses
    2. Legendary EE weapons have iLvL 135, Legendary SH weapons have iLvL 140...
    3. You can trade Legendary (lvl 60) EE weapon for Epic (lvl 35) SH weapon - which is, obviously, highly cost ineffective
    4. The most cost effective way is: Craft new EE weapon. Level it to Rare (lvl 16). Trade for Green (lvl 1) SH weapon. Feed your Legendary EE weapon to SH weapon.
    5. If RP requirements arent different you have either lvl 56 SH weapon (RP x2), or lvl 47 SH weapon (no RP x2)
  • deathbeezdeathbeez Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 789 Arc User
    I also vote sooner, rather then later. If it happens at all. I'd like to offload these stones.
    LOL sounds to criminal...

    I still haven't checked out the SH content yet because of what I saw with guilds in the last mods (they disintegrate).
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  • jaotutjaotut Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 576 Arc User
    I think most people are going to be so disappointed when their GH reaches rank 8 and there's no quest for the new weapons yet.

    ...and you don't need to craft a new EE weapon and make it rare to trade in for the new SH one
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  • lirithiellirithiel Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,482 Arc User
    edited August 2015
    jaotut wrote: »
    and you don't need to craft a new EE weapon and make it rare to trade in for the new SH one

    Would you mind enlightening us then please? I've got 4 weapons (1 legendary and 3 epic) at least that need upgrading.
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  • jaotutjaotut Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 576 Arc User
    xsayajinx1 wrote: »
    So, if I have a purple elemental fire off-hand lvl 40 and upgrade it while 2xRP-event to lvl 60 (legendary). I can later when my guild reaches the required level trade it into the new legendary Stronghold off-hand? Correct?

    The current version main hand and offhand can only be "upgraded" to the new version at a lower quality. Meaning legendary will get you an epic, epic gets you a rare. However, if you have a legendary new version of the main hand, then you can exchange it for another legendary one.

    This was due to different versions of new main hands that they want to introduce.

    But again, this is all subject to change as nothing is implemented yet on live.
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  • jaotutjaotut Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 576 Arc User
    lirithiel wrote: »
    jaotut wrote: »
    and you don't need to craft a new EE weapon and make it rare to trade in for the new SH one

    Would you mind enlightening us then please? I've got 4 weapons (1 legendary and 3 epic) at least that need upgrading.

    If they keep things as how they originally plan it, then u only need an essence to get the new weapons. You get the SH one by completing the quest when your stronghold reaches rank 8. There's meant to be a salvager that can salvage your current weapon for another element that depends on their rank, which you can add to getting a better quality new weapon.

    There were meant to be 4 or 5 different variations to the main hand, but I've got the feeling it won't be implemented anytime soon, at least not before the double rp. It could very well be like the drow pvp gear that never made it to live.

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  • icyphishicyphish Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,255 Arc User
    Dev just confirmed that weapons are from GH lvl 16, not 8.
    yes, saw that, which would take easily 5~6 months, and the new UnderDark mod8 might just offer new and even better gears... guess there is no point rushing to rank 16 for the artifact weapon/offhand until mod8 releases....

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  • rollingonitrollingonit Member Posts: 1,322 Arc User
    Has it been confirmed that Underdark has new gear/weapons; I swear I read somewhere that they werent going to add at least new weapons till after that.
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  • jaotutjaotut Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 576 Arc User
    That's crazy, forget asking for double RP, we need to ask for double all currencies and vouchers (the ones that you can use to donate)
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  • regenerderegenerde Member Posts: 3,050 Arc User
    edited August 2015
    It would be really funny, if Underdark would come with a full artifact armor set and new weapons set.
    A lot of players were asking for armor sets, and the Devs want to keep the people on the grind treadmill - two birds, one stone.
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    On topic, i wouldn't mind seeing 2x RP a lot sooner too.
    If your guild is not ready by then, get more active players or wallet warriors into your guild.
    Go big, or go home, seems to be the new slogan for the Devs around here.
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  • qutsemniequtsemnie Member Posts: 419 Arc User
    jaotut said:



    xsayajinx1 wrote: »

    So, if I have a purple elemental fire off-hand lvl 40 and upgrade it while 2xRP-event to lvl 60 (legendary). I can later when my guild reaches the required level trade it into the new legendary Stronghold off-hand? Correct?


    The current version main hand and offhand can only be "upgraded" to the new version at a lower quality. Meaning legendary will get you an epic, epic gets you a rare. However, if you have a legendary new version of the main hand, then you can exchange it for another legendary one.



    This was due to different versions of new main hands that they want to introduce.



    But again, this is all subject to change as nothing is implemented yet on live.



    Lol.
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