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Duelist's Flurry vs Sly Flourish

arcofortep12arcofortep12 Member Posts: 2,265 Arc User
edited August 2015 in The Thieves' Den
Which would you slot in ideally? Would you prefer the damage boost from the former or the debuff from the latter?
I also noticed that the Duelist's stop animation can make you lose your target briefly.
So better the debuff and slight mobility improvement of Sly Flourish or the DPS boost of the Duelist's Flurry?
Also if you want to go in details... when to use which? When to avoid which? Discuss.
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Duelist's Flurry vs Sly Flourish 53 votes

I would go the Duelist's Flurry route
84%
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I would go the Sly Flourish route
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  • rustlordrustlord Member Posts: 1,454 Arc User
    I would go the Duelist's Flurry route
    PvP

    DF. Unless, (1) Avalanche or (2) you can't land the full DF combo, then use SF.

    PvE

    DF on high HP target. SF on trash.
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  • drkbodhidrkbodhi Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,378 Arc User
    I would go the Duelist's Flurry route
    Tough... because I alternate. For a time I ran with both of them all the time.​​
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  • seadragonxseadragonx Member Posts: 11 Arc User
    Maybe a good question to pop in here as well: can DF proc the bonus of the lostmauth set multiple times in the 3rd attack? I believed it does, which makes it more interesting for me to use DF.
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  • kweassakweassa Member Posts: 2,390 Arc User
    edited August 2015
    IMO, landing DF is the pinnacle every non-Sabo TR should strive to reach, just like it was on olden times before mod5.

    The only instance I would use SF in PvP, is against someone with TEB -- in which case they break free of any daze+slow combo before you can land the 3rd strike. AdvPos+OD guarantees a constantly reapplying slow with every attack, but its the daze part where it fails as they break free and dodge away. In this cases, landing 2~3 shots of SF would do more damage than landing just the 1 and 2 of DF.

    Ofcourse, TRs have it relatively easier to land reliable CCs against TEB if you can land SB well enough... so if I'm using SB then I'd still use DF. But usually I roll with VP/DS/SS, since in terms of 1:1 combat Dazing Strike is highly more efficient than SB with my own attack pattern.. so..
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    If you know something to be broken, stop using it.
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  • creolegamercreolegamer Member Posts: 100 Arc User
    I would go the Duelist's Flurry route
    Duelist Flurry. I use it for everything, i slot SF as secondary over CoS in dundeons sometimes as it helps me do more dps if i wanna keep a nice bleed on a target for a bit longer as compared to spamming DF and getting all kinda different bleed numbers. There was a time i'd never consider DF for pvp but its become very easy to land from stealth and even while visible if you wind up and do a lil hop to close distance before the 3rd animation of the skill.
  • rustlordrustlord Member Posts: 1,454 Arc User
    I would go the Duelist's Flurry route
    I'm so not an expert of anything >.<
    Except maybe parkouring...
    But yes, DF procs lostmauth per every critical hit out of the 10 strikes in the last part of the animation. You could hardly get 4-5 autocrits from it though even if you stealth during the last part.
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  • kweassakweassa Member Posts: 2,390 Arc User
    ...especially when a WK's DF strikes will..

    (1) proc OD per every hit
    (2) proc Red Dragon Glyph per every hit
    (3) proc LostM per every hit

    ...that's huge.
    Stop making excuses. Be a man.
    If you know something to be broken, stop using it.
    Otherwise, you've got no right to be speaking of 'balance.'
  • wentriswentris Member Posts: 542 Arc User
    I would go the Duelist's Flurry route
    DF is, was and will always be superior to Sly Flourish. Its just way harder to make full use of it, but once you accomplish that - you will never want to use SF again
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  • fatgunsfatguns Member Posts: 410 Arc User
    I would go the Duelist's Flurry route
    kweassa said:

    ...especially when a WK's DF strikes will..



    (1) proc OD per every hit

    (2) proc Red Dragon Glyph per every hit

    (3) proc LostM per every hit



    ...that's huge.

    Cute :3
  • imit8rimit8r Member Posts: 74 Arc User
    I would go the Duelist's Flurry route
    I use DF primaily as the go-to at-will. When I am not using DF, I use CoS, since it does really solid damage (especially with my death slaad active bonus)
  • cesukecesuke Member Posts: 311 Arc User
    I would go the Duelist's Flurry route
    Now i use Gloaming Gut :v
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  • cesukecesuke Member Posts: 311 Arc User
    I would go the Duelist's Flurry route
    Is Master Infiltrator at will Sabo have a related feat
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