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The recent changes to mounts have been very advantageous. Now getting a mount gives you more than just mounted speed, it gives you increased movement speed when not mounted, faster AP gain, you can summon your mount to deal damage on your behalf and there are more mounts with stat benefits coming. I'd like to present an idea that would be lucrative for the game and beneficial to the players.
There are many mounts available in the game and I'm sure if someone posted a "what is your favorite mount" poll the answers would be as varied as the players. However with the introduction of mounts with bonuses they become the new BIS meta that are required for playing the content to the fullest. This, then, limits the use of other potentially favorite mounts by making them obsolete.
Might I suggest a transmute scroll or tome similar to the mount training tomes that allows you to "skin" or transmute your Bonus wielding mount (i.e. Flail Snail, or Strider) to whatever mount may be your favorite for that particular character. I think this would garner quite a lot of interest for players. For example the NCL has not long been completed and the Bullette Prize that so many sought after became almost immediately obsolete, why not allow players to then skin their Bonus wielding mounts to look like the Bullette?
The logistics could be as simple as either adding this Mount Transmutation tome into the Bazaar as an additional AD sink, or adding it to the Zen Market to make a quicker profit. It could even be added to both.
Ultimately customization always plays a large factor in MMORPG's because people like to make their characters unique. They like to have the best gear while maintaining individuality. I think this would unlock another level of customization that would be lucrative and exciting for players.
Thanks for your time.
There are many mounts available in the game and I'm sure if someone posted a "what is your favorite mount" poll the answers would be as varied as the players. However with the introduction of mounts with bonuses they become the new BIS meta that are required for playing the content to the fullest. This, then, limits the use of other potentially favorite mounts by making them obsolete.
Might I suggest a transmute scroll or tome similar to the mount training tomes that allows you to "skin" or transmute your Bonus wielding mount (i.e. Flail Snail, or Strider) to whatever mount may be your favorite for that particular character. I think this would garner quite a lot of interest for players. For example the NCL has not long been completed and the Bullette Prize that so many sought after became almost immediately obsolete, why not allow players to then skin their Bonus wielding mounts to look like the Bullette?
The logistics could be as simple as either adding this Mount Transmutation tome into the Bazaar as an additional AD sink, or adding it to the Zen Market to make a quicker profit. It could even be added to both.
Ultimately customization always plays a large factor in MMORPG's because people like to make their characters unique. They like to have the best gear while maintaining individuality. I think this would unlock another level of customization that would be lucrative and exciting for players.
Thanks for your time.
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I don't want to have to pay a ridiculous amount to get a legendary mount in the first place, THEN pay another ridiculous amount to transmute it.
I would be fine with being able to buy a rank 4 for their existing mounts that allow you to chose which mount bonus you get. However I think you'll find them not so apt to do that considering one of the reasons people open lockboxes is to get the new mounts that have either ArmPen, AP gain, or Movement speed. So while your argument stands that the Legendary mounts, when skinned, would have to have "attack animations" it would mean less overall overhaul to the current paradigm of lockbox loot being valuable if they simply allowed transmutes. Honestly I wouldn't even mind if the attack animation was the same because I don't think anyone really cares about the few second long attack animation vs. actually riding the mount. It's really all about aesthetics.
That said, as long as it allowed the mount you desire to ride with the stats allocated to them I would be quite happy with the end result as I think a lot of players would.
Thanks for your reply.
You CAN'T get a stat mount without opening an ungodly number of lockboxes (drop rate on legendary stuff is around one in 5000) or paying a ridiculous amount on the AH. This means the people with these mounts have a serious advantage over anyone who doesn't have them.
Yes, I do agree that we should be able to reskin stat mounts, since not everyone wants to use the mounts that have the stats because they're ugly. However this is ignoring a bigger issue, and also a potential huge AD sink. Rank 3 mount training already costs... what, 1.5 million? Make it cost another 3 million on top of that, and watch tons of people spend their AD on bumping their mounts up.
And putting stats on ALL of the mounts would also give you a reason to transmute anyway. Say you like the bonus from the tiger, but you prefer the look of the yeth hound. Boom, another chunk of AD spent - AND people would buy slower mounts from the zen store, more. As it is, once you've bought one 110% mount, there's no reason to EVER buy another mount, ever, ESPECIALLY the slower ones. I LIKE the looks of the slower mounts - but I don't use them because they're freaking slow. If I could transmute the polar bear, the medium tiger, or the medium worg onto my fast mounts? I would in a heartbeat.
Changing the Lockbox system is a topic of larger scope than I intended with this particular post. However, if you'd like to make a post about it I'll be glad to peruse it. Ultimately I'm hoping that not only players read this and potentially agree, but devs may also read this idea see that they have to do little work and make profit thus making it a possible suggestion to consider.
Cosmetic options NEVER get any kind of priority. Did you see the transmutes they added for the Paladin for the Jubilee? They didn't even make something from scratch. Every bit of it is stolen from the other classes' transmutes, just with the default colors swapped. There are still pieces of gear (regular AND fashion) that are graphically bugged with the new faces they added in Mod 4. BIS players, who are spending the most money in NW right now to ensure they stay BIS, don't really care what their mount/gear looks like as long as they're BIS.
Oh god no.
It's already $28 worth of AD for a rank 3 tome. They'd probably charge 12 million AD for rank 4.
... as opposed to the 5000+ dollars worth of keys you'd have to buy to have a decent chance of getting the legendary mounts to drop? Or the 300-500 dollars worth of zen you'd have to buy for enough AD to buy one off the AH? At least if we had an option to upgrade our mounts to rank 4, it'd be accessible to most people, even if it was expensive.
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$300-$500+ is not accessible. It would just increase access to another low percentage of players.
Firstly you are talking about the 2 legendary mounts that have an attack, 2 mounts out of all the mounts that exist. Most people don't even bother with it, including BIS players because the attack that the mount does isn't worth the exchange in AD. Secondarily, as I wrote before, I said who cares if the animation is buggy and shows the original mount when it "attacks" it's a 1 or 2 second animation vs. riding the mount you actually want to present. Thirdly if you think BIS toons don't care what their characters look like... you haven't been paying any attention to the game at all. The amount of Dyes and Armor transmutes they do is insane.
I understand you disagree with my position but you are wrong if you think it would be easier to re-work the entire key-lockbox-mount phenomenon than it would be to simply "skin" one mount over another; you've not really thought it through. I'm trying to propose a "minimal effort" approach to getting that job done. If you have a better idea... open your own thread.
Thanks.
3-5 million would cut into their sale of keys pretty drastically. They won't do that until they've got something even better in lockboxes.
You opened a thread in a public forum, you can't just tell people who don't agree with you to get out. ... well, you CAN, but you can't make me listen to you. :P If you don't want a back and forth discussion, go contact the devs directly.
I'm not telling you to get out, I'm asking you to keep on topic, I don't want to address keys and zen here. I have a much greater likelihood of influencing skinning or transmutes than you do of trying to completely overhaul the economy. I'm pointing out that if you'd like to continue that train of thought I'd like to invite you to do it in your own well thought out and perfectly explained thread
Either one is a money making machine for the game.
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I would tran mount