Control Bonus for Trappers?

soonergm · August 2015

The more I think about the trapper build, the more I feel like it is a poor man's controller. That's not meant to be demeaning, because it's such a fun build to play. But there are many similarities with the mechanics.

So I'm wondering if it's worth it to look for ways to increase our control bonuses. For example the control bonus boon from ToD campaign.

Also how does it work? Does it increase controlling damage or duration? Does it increase the likelihood of rooting an enemy? Does it do all of these things?

soonergm · August 2015

For anyone else that may be interested, I found this discussion. I know upcoming content will be easier for us than it was when introduced on PC but I think I'm going to go ahead and go for the boon. Enemies are still supposed to be more difficult.

https://m.reddit.com/r/Neverwinter/comments/36uuxd/your_hr_thoughts_on_control_bonus/

guarana76 · August 2015

I got myself thinking about the same thing this weekend.

We have only to pay attention that ToD boon talks about increasing control bonus by certain %, so if you don´t have a significant number of control points it will be worthless.

As far as I know there are only a few equipments that provide control points.

"Dragon's Grip Grants 10/12.5/15% increased Control Strength"

soonergm · August 2015

Well if you have a decent Wisdom score you should have some good control % and the boon will just make it that much better.

armwald · August 2015

Also there are a couple of Artifacts ( Belial Portal Stone 450 @ legendary ) is one.

A companion Slyblade Kobold gives + 3% that goes to 5% if increased in rank cost 1200 Zen

Also do not forget you can get the Control Bonus from your Artifact Off Hand

I have the Artifact ( @ 430 ) and the Off Hand (@ 216 ) plus the first 2 Boons from ToD ( 12.5% )

Tests I did at the House of Blades Constricting Roots lasted 9-10+ seconds and ticked off 4-5 damage rounds

I would have improved my Artifact and Offhand to the max but will wait for EE to drop or DR

alliera7311 · August 2015

You guys are forgetting the Mage companion 15% control strength and 25% at epic worth getting.

alliera7311 · August 2015

oh and lets not forget about the horn of lostmauth!

soonergm · August 2015

alliera7311 wrote: »

oh and lets not forget about the horn of lostmauth!

I want that so bad lol

alliera7311 · August 2015

Also note that in mod 6 your control bonus rises by deault from your stats. Your artifacts and companions get increase too. The class change to the hunter roots wont affect us in PvE but it most certainly will in PvP without companions.

wdj40 · September 2015

Someone just told me Control Bonus does not work for Trapper HR`s in a new thread I made, can anyone confirm this is true or not please?

soonergm · September 2015

i have not heard that. where is the thread?

i do not see why that would be the case... we have rooting, and now even daze ability, which are both control powers.

wdj40 · September 2015

Here is the thread, I created it in the Bug section as I do not think Control Bonus works properly or at all.

http://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/neverwinter/#/discussion/1205119/control-bonus-not-working-thus-zen-bought-companion-etc-not-working

I basically feel like I have wasted so much time and resources on my control bonus increase items/companions and all for nothing

wdj40 · October 2015

On another note learning this information I have posted has increased my DPS

Switched out Cantankerous Mage (who did nothing for my actives) for an Air Archon, then switched out my Panther (found out prone is not as good as I 1st thought) for a Fire Archon.

I have not really seen any difference in the length of time of roots/dazes now I have taken off my Control Bonus % increase things.

If anyone else has a different experience of a Trapper and Control Bonus please post your findings.

soonergm · October 2015

I have an air archon and will get a fire at some point as well. Also there is another companion that gives a bonus when enemy is rooted. I'll have to check the specifics and get back here with them.

Back on topic, I'm still curious as to why we don't receive bonuses for control. In dungeons and skirmishes it seems the adds don't stay rooted or dazed for long at all so it would be beneficial imo if we could get a little time extension on them.

davidagaldo · October 2015

soonergm said:

Back on topic, I'm still curious as to why we don't receive bonuses for control. In dungeons and skirmishes it seems the adds don't stay rooted or dazed for long at all so it would be beneficial imo if we could get a little time extension on them.

I am not trying to spark excitement, but I don't feel this request would go over well with the community since we have Stun. Run two Rangers and its dun! Sorry, had to rhyme a bit.

In dungeons and skirms, if you need more, then the group you're running with is not jumping on the opportunity. If your rotation is set right and fast, you can benefit the group by holding the enemy stunned with some over lap or maybe small gaps. Just make sure to be the first in and group everyone. Adjust yourself so you bring the majority to your AoE - stun, step out and stun again, go back in... you get it.

Its OK to take some damage. If Oak Skin is not in your rotation, it should be for this to work, can't trust some Clerics.

wdj40 · October 2015

I have seen no difference in the amount of damage ticks from roots etc with any control bonus increase items so I would not suggest getting the Cantakerous Mage etc, mine is sitting in my bag now. As someone pointed out to me when Master Trapper kicks in it over-writes any Control Bonus you have anyway and this activates every 10 seconds.

So I imagine it would still be useful to non-trapper HR's.

Control Bonus for Trappers?

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